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A few Sundays ago, I was with a provider with whom I had a very great time and made a connection with her. As I was leaving she asked that I write her a review and give her "10's" Honestly, she was very good and we were a good match.

After she said that I didn't reply but kissed her and said goodbye. She honestly could have been on the 10 level, but probably more like 9's. But now I challenge her integrity for even asking and not only will I not write her a review, but I won't see her again. Up until that point, I thought she would be someone I would reoccur with..I drove home a little bummed out just because of that request.

If only me, the integrity and moral compass thing has become big with me and providers the last few months. There are so many to choose from so why would I want to be with someone who wants me to lie for her or why would I want to be with someone who lies in general?

It's a big turn off for me and I have had other hobbyists PM me with the same feelings. I have no problem if a lady wants me to write a review, just don't ask me to write a number. BTW, some guys really put a lot of time into writing reviews, others don't, but recognize that some hobbyists really try to do a good job on reviews, which can be hard because it's hard to remember what happened sometimes in the heat of a session. I agree with others that the numbers shouldn't mean much anymore and I would like it better if it was more of a 1-100 scale.

-- Modified on 10/27/2012 8:36:48 AM

Why lie?

If you did not see a provider & wrote a review to gain a VIP membership this is pathetic.  Providers who offer an extra half hour, or promise a whitelist for a 10/10 review this is unjust.  I love TER, but this is just becoming sad to see 10/10 given out, like free condoms at the clinic.  Providers who do not report fake reviews are allowing these TER guys to appear to be good clients when they are not.  Please attempt to be fair in this unfair world if not this community will suffer & the safety level will no longer be here.

A few Sundays ago, I was with a provider with whom I had a very great time and made a connection with her. As I was leaving she asked that I write her a review and give her "10's" Honestly, she was very good and we were a good match.

After she said that I didn't reply but kissed her and said goodbye. She honestly could have been on the 10 level, but probably more like 9's. But now I challenge her integrity for even asking and not only will I not write her a review, but I won't see her again. Up until that point, I thought she would be someone I would reoccur with..I drove home a little bummed out just because of that request.

If only me, the integrity and moral compass thing has become big with me and providers the last few months. There are so many to choose from so why would I want to be with someone who wants me to lie for her or why would I want to be with someone who lies in general?

It's a big turn off for me and I have had other hobbyists PM me with the same feelings. I have no problem if a lady wants me to write a review, just don't ask me to write a number. BTW, some guys really put a lot of time into writing reviews, others don't, but recognize that some hobbyists really try to do a good job on reviews, which can be hard because it's hard to remember what happened sometimes in the heat of a session. I agree with others that the numbers shouldn't mean much anymore and I would like it better if it was more of a 1-100 scale.

-- Modified on 10/27/2012 8:36:48 AM

This goes much further than fake reviews by hobbyist.What about all the fake reviews providers put up all the time ,there have been many discussions on all the boards about this topic .
Secondly the lies need to stop in every aspect of this hobby from Fake pictures, stats and services provided .
It's like politics both sides can't tell the truth anymore ,they even believe the bullshit they tell us

I don't always give out all 10/10s, but when I do, it's deserved. And I drink Dos Equis! But seriously, if I see someone that doesn't measure up to 9s and 10s, or I just don't connect with her, I just don't write a review, even if asked. There have been a couple of times when this has caused some friction, like when a well-reviewed provider kept sending me emails asking why I hadn't reviewed her yet. And then there was the relatively new, fairly well reviewed girl in Vegas who attempted to write the review for herself on my laptop before she left. Needless to say, she didn't get a review from me and soon dropped off the radar.
I don't see anyone who doesn't have top reviews. Sometime I'm asked to review and sometimes not, and if I think she deserves 9s and 10s, then I'll review her. If not, I don't. I just don't feel comfortable being negative about anyone. Maybe it shouldn't bother me and I should write negative reviews, but that's just not me.

Samsd,

If you don't write the reviews where you'd give lower and low scores there is no meaning to your scoring.
We need to know the both the good and the bad!  
Your not connecting is personal.  The review is personal.  There is a reason you didn't connect.  A good escort is to notice that and try to remedy it.  Tough task in 1-2 hours even with many emails but don't assume it was you or she or another couldn't have over come the problem.  We didn't connect or click is a cop out.  Explain the reason.  A good escort should be engaging.  Speak to different men on different levels.  

To tell it like it is there are escorts.there are plain prostitutes, and there are prostitutes actively seeking to learn men and become escorts.    It's not one sided and most things are multifaceted.

Point taken and I have been thinking I should publish the less-than-stellar reviews when those things happen and I still may. Thing is, other than the two I mentioned, which were both a couple of years ago, I've only had good experiences lately and am really only seeing those I've already seen with maybe only one or two new experiences a year with already well-reviewed girls. But, time will tell and anyone wanting info on my less enjoyable experiences so far can PM me.

the problem is there are plenty of guys like you. I don't need to read all your 9 and 10 reviews, what I want and need to read are your 7's and 8's.  BTW, I've had providers who've I've given 7s to white list me. Don't worry they'll get over it.

Since when are 7s bad?  I think too many people spend way too much time looking at the number when what really counts is the juicy details. I have had 7/7 reviews that read better than the 9s.  I have had high reviews removed simply because the juicy details weren't true.  Read the details people.  I don't
ask for people to review me, I don't care whether they do or not. I have NEVER asked anyone to review me or offer discounts for 9s&10s  IF I did, I would have a lot more 9s&10s.  I have heard that many girls offer discounts for high reviews, but that's just hearsay....So if you're that girl that offers discounts for a 10, just remember that hobbyists talk and we know who you are.  :) Have a good day. xoxo  

Posted By: hiddenhills
.  BTW, I've had providers who've I've given 7s to white list me. Don't worry they'll get over it.  

How is anybody to know you had those less enjoyable experiences without writing reviews.  Isn't that what TER is all about Reviews and Updates.

As for not seeing new people, IMHO GREAT IDEA.  Having a regular is best on so many levels.  Growth, a step closer to a better relationship. Why increase the risk of LE, STD and  new routines leading to new problems.

Posted By: aces8
Samsd,

If you don't write the reviews where you'd give lower and low scores there is no meaning to your scoring.
We need to know the both the good and the bad!  
Your not connecting is personal.  The review is personal.  There is a reason you didn't connect.  A good escort is to notice that and try to remedy it.  Tough task in 1-2 hours even with many emails but don't assume it was you or she or another couldn't have over come the problem.  We didn't connect or click is a cop out.  Explain the reason.  A good escort should be engaging.  Speak to different men on different levels.  

To tell it like it is there are escorts.there are plain prostitutes, and there are prostitutes actively seeking to learn men and become escorts.    It's not one sided and most things are multifaceted.
 
I was recently reviewed by you after you experienced my special I had offered in October.  I don't like offering specials because what is experienced in my reviews is not what is going to transpire in the special.  I was up front & explained that as is stated in the review.  You are a grown man you can choose to leave and not partake in the session if you start out dismayed immediately before the session begins.  You don't need to dog me in a review when you knew you were already displeased.  Not fare nor was it fare for you to not stop writing the review once your real upset had been pointed out and continued with meaningless lies.  Unfortunately the latest 2 reviews I've received that are unfavorable Aces8 one of the two, were  clients who scheduled during the special.  You get what you pay for.  i will never run specials again.

So i ask is this fare reviewing when the cards are put on the table before donations are given when communication has been established & hobbyest knows he could leave it rather than take it, but takes it then dogs the provider?  The facts that were true I can deal with but why lie and add BS?

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How many "once in a lifetime" experiences can you have in a lifetime?

If you give all the ladies you see 9s and 10s, and you don't write reviews for anyone that you feel is lesser, then you reviews are meaningless.

by the way, a 7/7 is: "Attractive"/"Hot Time"
An 8/8 is: "Really Hot"/"Went the Extra Mile"
What the hell is "negative" about those scores?

Don't disagree with what you are saying, but must make a point for myself and probably some guys like me,  For many years prior to getting on TER, I found I had many poor experiences.  I only hobby on vacation - one week a year, so I can't afford to be take anything for granted.  For the last few years I have done exhaustive research, including of reading through ALL reviews for ladies I am considering, many references of the reviewers, and exchanged communications with the ladies prior to meeting.

So I am not ashamed of my high reviews, as TER (and many of you) have enabled me to make wonderful choices.  In the most recent two years, I have found my dates have been absoultely incredible, but I have worked to make that happen.  I would hope that someone would not disregard my reviews because I have rated women 10/10 when they truly are.  

I had been a paying member of TER for about a year and a half because I am not the kind of guy to write a review. I am a pretty private person, therefore the handle Discreet Guy. I had the opportunity to see many different ladies. Many were quite nice, but some were not as represented by their reviews. The reviews became so untrustworthy I dropped the paying membership. It wasn't the dollars, it was the lack of confidence in what I was reading.

Posted By: Madame Patricia
Why lie?

If you did not see a provider & wrote a review to gain a VIP membership this is pathetic.  Providers who offer an extra half hour, or promise a whitelist for a 10/10 review this is unjust.  I love TER, but this is just becoming sad to see 10/10 given out, like free condoms at the clinic.  Providers who do not report fake reviews are allowing these TER guys to appear to be good clients when they are not.  Please attempt to be fair in this unfair world if not this community will suffer & the safety level will no longer be here.

The problem as I see it is twofold. First the numbering, though useful at a glance, is a subjective means of trying to  score objectively. I have read reviews that read stellar, like a 9 or 10, but the number values are 7 and 8. Sometimes when you look at the reviewer's other reviews, he just doesn't give 9's or 10's. The solution is to read the full review and not stop at the numbers. However, with the top 100 list (again a useful tool), a natural  competitive tendency ensues. The result, increased pressure on providers and thus the hobbyist who doesn't want to be blackballed to inflate numbers.

Just an observation, perhaps an obvious one. I don't have a solution. J

ust my 2 cents.

Amen!!

How many dozens of 9/10s were really 6/7s or even as low as 5/6s!  Now, I am not picky for the sake of being picky, but if I'm paying several franklins for the privilege, I expect her to be as she herself advertised as well as some "credible" reviewers have as well indicated in their reviews.  I cannot think of a single "9/10" that I have seen that indeed was as reviewed.

In fact, there is a one visiting provider whose pics are COMPLETELY false - she aint really a "she" either....

Sometimes, Especially Anal,  I look at services.  Then read all the reviews on the provider and non of the reviews say they had back door entrance.  How did the service section get this listed?

Once, the first review said they think she bf  but they didn't ask.  It was there under services.
Same with DFK and BBBJ when in every review it wasn't done yet it shows up under services.

My first thoughts were somebody, the reviewers were putting it in to help the providers.  In every case these false acts were acts that qualified for an extra point above 7, not one situation I ran across was for somebody swallowing when it wasn't in a review.  Swallowing doesn't help you get a 10, just some clients.

I don't believe hobbyist are writing these, at least without, extreme motivation.  I think this problem belongs to TER's editor's.  They don't take the time to catch spelling and grammar, I bet the don't compare the review with anything above to see it match.    INHO there are not 3  BBW's that  are 10's since Reuben's time.

.... lol it just so happens many who have indulged in it were not reviewers. You can find things I enjoy including that on my p411 profile as well.
Sure folks can report and change what they want on your profile that's why it's up to providers to be diligent about checking it. What is on MINE is what I offer.  Lol you're absolutely right swallowing doesn't help you get a 10 (for performance) I should know.... my best scoring has been a 9.

Though what you're saying could be true to for others.

Is when a provider gets an HONEST review removed.
Seen several top provider here getting 6 and 7 reviews pulled.
Hey TER, why the double standard? I report a guy who tried to extort extra services for a review re-write but you allow other ladies to have reviews straight up pulled? Man, I must be doing something wrong (or not doing the rite people, LOL).

Posted By: Madame Patricia
Why lie?

If you did not see a provider & wrote a review to gain a VIP membership this is pathetic.  Providers who offer an extra half hour, or promise a whitelist for a 10/10 review this is unjust.  I love TER, but this is just becoming sad to see 10/10 given out, like free condoms at the clinic.  Providers who do not report fake reviews are allowing these TER guys to appear to be good clients when they are not.  Please attempt to be fair in this unfair world if not this community will suffer & the safety level will no longer be here.

In my case, I was able to provide proof that they were fake reviews. For example, someone threatened to write a bad review because I refused to see him. He used the same email to threaten me that he uses on TER.   I was able to easily cross reference and find out who wrote the review.  I would never remove an HONEST review even if it's not flattering, believe me, I have some that I wish to forget.  You can't just report a problem on your profile page, you have to actually contact customer service.  It took me a while to figure that one out...If you go to your problem reports it will tell you to contact customer service for review disputes.  In each case, TER told me that if they find out I was lying, they would put the review back up. I have nothing to worry about there...  

Posted By: TrulyMsMocha
....because it messed up their 9's and 10's lol. smh
lol i got a 8 and almost a little freaked out lol but then i was like omg chill out I'm still all kinds of awesome! :)
it is funny how girls do that though lol we are so silly

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