I've noticed several touring ladies posting ads at some pretty high rates. Wonder how they will do. We have excellent local talent at a fraction of what some of these ladies are asking.
in SoCal and Vegas suggesting that business might be slow at the rates they are posting. Most were receptive and wanted suggestions as to what price point might be best in each market. I suggested they also inquire on the Providers Only board.
The gals on Backpage for SD are the best looking I have seen in the country. I just never use Backpage unless they have reviews somewhere. Do you guys use it often?
BP is a good place to look at as a resource. Photo's are usually posted as part of the add. But I would never date anyone there unless you find reviews here or someplace else.
By the way, does anyone know why TER stopped accepting BP as a provider add?
That's balsy. Surprised you didnt get ripped a new one.
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
in SoCal and Vegas suggesting that business might be slow at the rates they are posting. Most were receptive and wanted suggestions as to what price point might be best in each market. I suggested they also inquire on the Providers Only board.
When you saw an ad for a provider that was higher than what you want to donate was to simply move on. I would never send a PM like that
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
in SoCal and Vegas suggesting that business might be slow at the rates they are posting. Most were receptive and wanted suggestions as to what price point might be best in each market. I suggested they also inquire on the Providers Only board.
the "Jump to Conclusions" Board. I would never INITIATE such a conversation, but when a visiting girl posts something like, "Is it slow for everyone right now or is it just me?" or "I'm visiting and not sure if I'm advertising in the right place" it is often because they are a NY or DC girl trying to bring their East coast rates to the West coast. I would also never comment publicly about a specific girl's rates, so I PM and share a little of my inner marketing genius with then. 90% have been positive and effusive with their appreciation. Recently had a visiting provider in Vegas offer me two hours for one in appreciation of my help and suggestions after she had a very successful week applying my tips.
If you want me to be lengthier and relate my anecdotal experiences in greater detail, just say so. Its interesting when confronted with two possible explanations about something, so many choose to think of things in the most negative light. Hopefully, more experience hobbying and getting to know a greater array of providers will cure some of you of your inherent negativity. However, I will cop to the "ballsy" comment. You don't achieve great success in life without being a little ballsy.
But how else are they supposed to impress the women on this board? /s
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
the "Jump to Conclusions" Board. I would never INITIATE such a conversation, but when a visiting girl posts something like, "Is it slow for everyone right now or is it just me?" or "I'm visiting and not sure if I'm advertising in the right place" it is often because they are a NY or DC girl trying to bring their East coast rates to the West coast. I would also never comment publicly about a specific girl's rates, so I PM and share a little of my inner marketing genius with then. 90% have been positive and effusive with their appreciation. Recently had a visiting provider in Vegas offer me two hours for one in appreciation of my help and suggestions after she had a very successful week applying my tips.
If you want me to be lengthier and relate my anecdotal experiences in greater detail, just say so. Its interesting when confronted with two possible explanations about something, so many choose to think of things in the most negative light. Hopefully, more experience hobbying and getting to know a greater array of providers will cure some of you of your inherent negativity.
However, I will cop to the "ballsy" comment. You don't achieve great success in life without being a little ballsy.
attempt to say "who's looking out for you, Ms. Provider," and hands start going up. Most providers are very sharp and don't really need our help, but on the rare occasion one seems to be floundering, I will do it privately by PM, and if she doesn't seem receptive, I will politely excuse myself and drop it. Don't need to have the exchange be public to rack up brownie points.
he'd lie and exaggerate the exclusiveness of the Mercedes. I would do my research and determine a fair market value before stepping on the lot, so when he asks what will it take to get you into this model today, I'll have an answer.
when a provider either doesn't show rates up front, or mentions pre-booking discounts, or varies rates depending on advertising venue, or flat out asks how business is in a particular town, it's not out of line to suggest a specific donation that you'd be willing to make. It would be interesting if the ISO board became more active and specific in this regard.
Posted By: Arden_Moon
If that's the rates they're posting there is a reason. Everyone has their preferred cup of tea. It's relatively simple.
If you saw a Mercedes sitting on a lot. I doubt you'd ask the salesmen how they're selling.
I must be missing all these posts about ladies struggling... Because I see no posts anywhere for the SD area that would suggest a provider needed some dude to message her with unsolicited advice.
Any guy who contacts a provider regarding her rate is a rude in my opinion - plain and simple. Anyone here remember when I came in as Goldie? Anyone? Well here is a reminder: NOT ONE PROVIDER WAS ASKING OVER 500 HOURLY IN SAN DIEGO BEFORE THAT. And only a handful in LA were asking more than 500 with the exception of porn stars and legit models. And how many now? And how many guys do you think messaged me either telling me I won't get that rate or that it's too high or that the market in SD won't be agreeable to that donation or every other excuse in the book to try and bully my rates down. That was in 2012. I have not lowered my rate since (with the exception of special offers of course) and am even considering raising my rate or minimum booking time. I even doubled my minimum booking rate for a while to be more exclusive to a special lover while my longer date rate was the same. Bottom line: just mind your own business when it comes to rate. Discussing rates is a turn off for us firstly as well as it making you appear to not appreciate our value. We may not be "worth" the rate to you but that doesn't mean we welcome your input on such matters. Anwyway Namaste GK
Posted By: StayBeautiful
We always appreciate any advice to help boost our business, especially, if it is slow. With the proper tone
I think you may have missed the part about him not initiating the conversation.
Each girl is free to charge whatever she wants, just as each guy is willing to donate as much as he wants (as long as it's agreed upon). Let the invisible hand do its work. But for someone who considers it rude to discuss rates, I'm surprised you spent the time discussing the history of your rates.
Posted By: GoldieKnox
I must be missing all these posts about ladies struggling... Because I see no posts anywhere for the SD area that would suggest a provider needed some dude to message her with unsolicited advice.
Any guy who contacts a provider regarding her rate is a rude in my opinion - plain and simple.
Anyone here remember when I came in as Goldie? Anyone? Well here is a reminder: NOT ONE PROVIDER WAS ASKING OVER 500 HOURLY IN SAN DIEGO BEFORE THAT. And only a handful in LA were asking more than 500 with the exception of porn stars and legit models. And how many now? And how many guys do you think messaged me either telling me I won't get that rate or that it's too high or that the market in SD won't be agreeable to that donation or every other excuse in the book to try and bully my rates down. That was in 2012. I have not lowered my rate since (with the exception of special offers of course) and am even considering raising my rate or minimum booking time. I even doubled my minimum booking rate for a while to be more exclusive to a special lover while my longer date rate was the same.
Bottom line: just mind your own business when it comes to rate. Discussing rates is a turn off for us firstly as well as it making you appear to not appreciate our value. We may not be "worth" the rate to you but that doesn't mean we welcome your input on such matters.
Anwyway Namaste GK
Posted By: StayBeautiful
We always appreciate any advice to help boost our business, especially, if it is slow. With the proper tone
It,s their prerogative to ask what ever they wish. It's yours to accept or not. There is no need to bargain and debate rates. Either they get business or they drop the rates. It's expensive for the touring ones to get here and setup. If they don't get enough business, they will either lower rates or quit visiting.
making is that some touring girls don't even know the rate is why they are not getting business. They just bring their NY rate and then wonder why nobody here wants to see them. If they post about no business, I will tell them in a PM my opinion. Most didn't realize that was the problem and thanked me for pointing t out.
appointed yourself spokesman for all providers that may be in, or visiting, San Diego, or any other city that has a board on TER, it is not going to change that fact that I will still assist and advise any provider that seeks advice on a public board, or by PM to me privately, in any way I can. If you knew the real identity that goes with Coeur-de-Lion, you would understand a little better. No one knows the connection, so maybe we have even met, maybe not. I'll never tell. Lol
Price and value are a big part of the business, so it is a little naïve to put your head in the sand and say it shouldn't ever be discussed. I'm sure you are not shy about making sure your own customers have seen and understand your rate schedule before the first visit. Still, this seems to be a sore spot with you. "The LADY doth protest too much, methinks." -W.S.
Aside from the donation, I'm impressed by the mileage some providers accumulate. I noticed a recent ad that indicates San Diego will be the 4th stop of a provider's national tour, Denver-Philadelphia-SF-SD, and we get her starting on her 11th consecutive day "in the saddle". I'll pass on that service.
I'm surprised you have so many reviews if mileage bothers you. Most providers work, or at least would be willing to work, more than 11 days in a row.
Posted By: tungOfun4U
Aside from the donation, I'm impressed by the mileage some providers accumulate. I noticed a recent ad that indicates San Diego will be the 4th stop of a provider's national tour, Denver-Philadelphia-SF-SD, and we get her starting on her 11th consecutive day "in the saddle". I'll pass on that service.
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