What is going on with the hobby of escort service?  In short, the price is going up and the quality and service is going down.
Let's face it $300 is not cheap but being in SD, I guess we understand that is the price.  Now every provider, good or bad, pretty or ugly, is asking for the "standard" rate.  However, They are not done, prices are going up...$350, $400, $500, and more.  What is going on?
By the way, just because it's more expensive doesn't mean the girls are prettier or the service is better.  Average looking young girls with attitude are just running up the bill.  What's going on???

Free market. If the hobbyists pay it, the prices are justified. I haven't seen a girl for more than $250 in a long time and have had fantastic encounters. The gems are out there. You just have to search.

As Nigel says, it is a free market thing.  I  rarely pay $300 and when I do, I make sure ahead of time that it will be worth it.  Some girls are worth the high rates (and more)and I wish that I could go that route more often.  However, I think $200 can get you a great time if you know where to spend it.  For whatever its worth, here are some observations and "Rules of the Trade" that work for me.  Some are obvious but they allow me to play much more than I could otherwise.  I don't post reviews but maybe this is some minor payback  for the valuable info I've received from this site over the years.    

1.  Any sane girl would rather see fewer guys and make more money.  They will charge as much as they can.

2.  There are guys with the cash to pay $3-400 consistently and a girl that gets repeat business from them or their friends, doesn't need much else.  

3.   A lot of business for girls, however, is not repeat business and comes from guys that cannot afford large rates consistently.  

4.    For the majority of girls, making $200 for 45 minutes to an hour is great work IF she she is comfortable that the guy is not LE or a freak and that he is hygenic, somewhat attractive and has a sense of humor or at least the ability to keep things light-hearted.    

5.  It is very difficult to know that a guy has those characteristics prior to the first meeting. Girls must balance the risk of the unknown against the donation they will receive.  Many develop very good intuition from a telephone conversation.  A higher donation offsets a higher risk of the unknown.  I've had girls tell me that they use higher rates to filter out bargain hunters who tend to be more likely to flake or make it a less-than-enjoyable experience for the girl.  Getting through the filter often means a lower rate for you.  

6.  There are times most people's lives where they need some quick money.  Providers have the abilility to choose the schedule and rates that will get them the money they want at the time they need it.  When quick money is needed, many will increse their risk and drop rates with a "special", advertised or not.  

7.  Many providers will also have lower rates for those who demonstrate the characteristics in number 4.  Most of the time, that means for guys they have seen at least once before.  The second time is almost always more enjoyable for everyone because the risk and stress is so much less.  

What works for me is periodic review of this site,   escort sites, CL, etc. I very rarely see someone without a history.  Getting a lower rate for a subsequent date is usually easy if you demonstrate the characteristics in number 4.  If its the first time, I look for an advertised special or first ask if the provider has 1/2 hour rates.  Even if she does not offer 1/2 hour rates, she often lowers her rate when she knows that cost is an issue.  If done respectfully, this does not come across as bargining or as insulting.  Remember that you're not at a swap meet.  I've had some great times for as low as $150 when the stars aligned.  Chemisty is very important and you never know until the first meeting.  At a lower rate, a disappointment does not hurt as much.  If the chemistry is there, you can always leave a tip, see if she has more time available or reward her with repeat business.  

When you've done your homework, the keys of research, discretion and respect open many, many doors under $300.  This is a time of year when "quick money" is needed and its a good time to try some new faces or revisit some old ones, so long as you use common sense.  Hope this helps out.

Not everyone is a hobbyist or wants to see providers with an open door policy. Different strokes for different folks. There are hundreds of girls out there, so it would seem common sense to find those in your niche, as Nigel suggested. I do feel ya. Things are tight in SD. But what you need is out there.

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Like it or not, some girls are getting double what they charged just a few years ago because evidently, they can and the economy reflects that.

There's no use going into Greenspan & Bush mode here (there's another page for that), but for those who follow these things, the American economy is in 5th gear and these costs are a barometer of it. To underscore this more so, the supply of providers has even risen along with the fees during the last few years--defying pricing balance laws.

I wish it wasn't quite so much too, but like real estate, gasoline and even concert tickets, somebody's stepping up and saying okay.

I have not sipped your tea yet Jai

One of these  days I hope!!

Ed Zachary. Do your homework and find the ones that fit your bill, literally and figuratively. I've found that the well reviewed ladies in the upper $ range are more than worth the xtra few $ on the margin. Try Jai, you'll like in a major way.

I agree with you as well....i myself ask for 300/an hour but when i meet with someone i get along with and they come and see me agian i give a very fair(if i don't say so myself) "discount"
the 300 is somewhat a part of my screening as well! Hope ya find what you're looking for. XOXO Kali

....as none of the economic gains for the past five years has translated into higher salaries (unless you're the CEO of a Fortune 500 company) or a higher stock market (we're just marking time on the DOW for the past five years, and the NASDAQ is still 40% of it's 2000 high).

Especially in San Diego, my candidate for the source of all this additional cash for hobbyists is the overheated real estate market. Many home owners have maintained their lifestyles through refinancing their mortgage over the past five years. Nowhere in the nation has the real estate bubble been as overheated as in San Diego, which means that 1700 sq. ft. homes in Mission Hills built in the '20's have been selling for ~1 million. If you don't believe that's a definition of a housing bubble, I have some tulips I'd like to sell you.

If this hypothesis is correct, both real estate and provider prices will be coming down in tandem and soon, especially with the rise in the short-term interest rates.

The Federal Reserve Bank has increased interest rates a historic record 13 times in row, and will do so a 14th time on January 31. Translation: American commerce is on a crazed bull run and another lasso is needed.

Real estate is indeed in a high cycle, across the whole country, not just here. But, with all due respect, not everyone is taking out mortages to visit providers or shop. The economy is so hot, $15 an hour jobs (plus benefits) at retailers go unfilled and even getting a labor contractor to make a project bid is like pulling teeth. In addition, Christmas shoppers spent an astouding 9% more than a year ago and worker productivity has never been higher. In fact, there are a record number of Americans working today than ever before. Even simple skills score big.

There are more facts, but in short, this is what a ripple effect looks like. And again, providers' fees are reflecting it. None of us fathomed paying these donations just a few years ago. Heck, the Rolling Stones are selling out their stadium shows with $400 tickets (retail)!

Believe what you want, but just follow the money for truth.

I, and others, call Greenspan "Bubbles" because he has played critical roles in two of the largest bubbles in our history.

The first, of course, was the one in the stock market that led to the crash of the dot coms, not to mention the rest of the stock market. Despite his labeling the stock mania an "irrational exuberance", the FED lending rates and margin requirements (for stocks) fed into this bubble. Needless to say, the crash of this bubble decimated more than just a few 401K accounts.

More dire consequences are expected from Greenspan's role in feeding the housing bubble, which is now showing real signs of exhaustion. The 'tightening' of short-term interest rates that Greenspan and the Fed have exercised over the last year (that you cite) is laughable, given the historically low levels that they started with. There are two fevers associated with the housing bubble: the extraordinary prices that people are will to pay, and the loosening of lending standards for mortgages to keep the bubble from bursting (i.e., interest-only and negative-amortization loans).

As noted in my above post, this leads to insane, and I use the term advisedly, prices for Hillcrest real estate (i.e., 1700 sq. ft. homes for ~1 mil).

A bubble of this magnitude cannot be indefinitely sustained. In the late '80's, we had a much smaller real estate bubble, which produced declines in the range of 30-40% in S.D. prices that lasted until the mid-90's. Since this bubble is much greater, the housing price declines will have a much larger economic impact.

The nationwide economic impact of housing construction (and associated trades, consumables, etc.) is ~50%. A crash in the housing market will have major effects on the economy as a whole.  

To sum up, my thesis is that Americans have sustained their lifestyle these past 5 years (of no salary growth) largely by using their homes as ATM machines. Home owners have responded to their home's "wealth effect", either directly from refi's or just reading the Sunday real estate section. If I'm right, disposable income will shrink along with the (eventual) declines in home prices, and with it we should see commensurate declines in what hobbyists are willing to pay providers. If you're right, then provider charges will be insensitive to such declines in home prices.


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Like most things in life, you get what you pay for in most cases. I am happy that I can afford the $$$$ and up but If times got harder I would rather just reduce the number of encounters. It really sucks to spend money and wish you had not bothered. Most cheap buys in any venue seem to feel that way.

Man you guys have a lot of time on your hands!  It's simple economics -- not requiring a recap of one's doctoral dissertaion or "The Story of How I Made a Billion Dollars in Real Estate in 24 hours!"

It's simply -- you pay it, they'll charge it!  and I don't deny anyone the opportunity to do so!  There's "nothing going on" here.

In those immortal words, "Eez dis a gret cuntry or wot?"

No offense to anyone intended - LOL!!!

I agree with this sentiment.  You might as well get the toe-curling experience yo want if its not prohibitively more expensive.  I've wasted enough on bargain providers that could have gone to fewer quality encounters.  On the other hand, I have turned up a few gems.  All in the name of science ....
It's good to know there are providers like Kali who encourage hobbyists to become regulars.  It helps those of us who areen't quite sure to take the plunge.

Exhale and breathe now, the days of decent providers for $125 visits have disappeared since the year of the "Y2K crisis" and they aren't coming back.

Hard to believe that was just 5 years ago. But since then, the U.S. economy has not only swelled greatly, it now must interface with new red-hot player economies of India and China, who are here to stay. That's ripple effect 101 for everybody.

No, I never thought there'd be million dollar homes in Hillcrest, either. But I also didn't expect to see Mega-Million dollar sports contracts for ordinary athletes. Or forgettable Hollywood actors pulling down lotto sum fees for their "craft". All these things, however, say one thing--a rising tide lifts all boats.

These things just don't happen in a flat economy. And as for local real estate, don't expect a crash unless there's a ruinous quake. Prices here will stay firm because housing expansion cannot outpace its infastructure. In other words, there's only so much water and electricity that can be had (surprise--it isn't unlimited)! And for those who are counting, the government owns 56% of San Diego land--thereby making only 44% available for residential, commercial and recreation.

Throughout the years, real wealth for most isn't created by salary, but rather, simple and wise investment. It will always be so.