What kinds of things made you select the provider that you did?

What were your warning signs that it was a no no? I've had some awful experiences with discrimination in both my race and size of my package which leads me to believe that I'm just not asking the right questions?

For those that have found your ATF, how did you and what did you look for. Did you find her here?

Thanks in advance!

To clarify, I'm Jamaican with a very size able package and that seems to immediately put me in the "Undateable" category before we even meet most of the time. I've been hobbying for years and never had an issue until I moved to San Diego.

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That's surprising to me. I have seen a lot of ads on back page that come out and outright state no black men or african americans but, I'm still surprised.

In answer to your question - beauty is in the eye of the beholder and what I like you may hate and vice versa. I did find my ATF here but it took quite awhile of fun interludes along the way. Trial and error. There are a lot of fine ladies here and I am hopeful you will get some replies from some.

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you guys are growing penises so big that women don't want them!  amazing!

this is the second "i can't get laid cuz i'm so huge" thread in a week!

guess i should feel inadequate because i get laid all the time lol!

our city budget was short so they stopped filtering cialas and viagra out of the water supply. I think the issue for some ladies might be black men sadly.

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For me, there really wasn't any sort of formula, per se.
It was luck, truth be told.

The 1st provider that I hooked up with is very highly reviewed. She was great, but upon reflection, I wasn't ready to be with such a well-known lady.

During my 1st year as a hobbyist, I hooked with a few more ladies. Most were from an agency (which no longer exists). However, after each encounter, there was something missing. There just wasn't that special connection.  
I met with a coupe more ladies after that. I felt a connection with one of them, but it still wasn't quite special, y'know?

That all changed when I met...HER - my ATF! MISS EVA BLISS.
I came across her ad here on TER. I read all of her reviews at that time. Even though she was quite popular/well-known, for some reason I wasn't intimidated.  
When I saw her photo, I was intrigued enough to go to her website. Once there, I made up my mind right then & there! I just had to meet her!
We exchanged e-mails for awhile, trying to settle on a date.
Eventually, our schedules finally aligned! I'll never forget that magical night. For the very 1st time in my life, I found the connection that I had been searching for! She made me feel so special.  

That was about 3 years ago.  
She's been the greatest thing that's ever happened for me

This is exactly what I'm looking for. I just wish so many women didn't discriminate against black men though. I had an excellent experience with one who moved away and recommended her friend who was drop dead gorgeous only to be told no at the door because of her preference.

Maybe I should lead with "I'm an investment banker" lol

...I'm sure that you'll find your dream girl ATF

theres still some good ones out there!

approach it from a research perspective, then you can improve your chances.  Over the years, I have identified a number of other hobbyists who like the same types of providers that I do.  I compare their reviews to my own, looking for common points that we both seem to agree on.  Then when I want to see new girls, I read some reviews, looking in particular for reviews written by these reviewers that I have come to trust, and who have similar tastes as me. This helps me identify the pool of talent I want to hobby in.  Only after I think that the experience described in the reviews is one I think I would enjoy do I look at the provider's website/photos/ads, because there has to be a physical attraction in order to get to an ATF status.  I have still enjoyed sessions with providers that I was not very attracted to, because there is still the physical aspect of the session, which with any professional, is going to be a good experience, but getting a good connection is that will evolve into an ATF.

You can give chemistry a boost by repeating in a short period of time.  If I find I have a good connection with a provider on the first appointment, and think she has the potential to be a regular for me, I will see her again three more times within seven or eight days.  This "front-loading" is what gets the chemistry really going, getting each of you comfortable with the other, and increasing the sense of intimacy through these frequent visits.  If you don't start to really feel like you have good chemistry by the third visit, then you should start over.  As you continue to see each other over the ensuing weeks and months, you don't have to meet as often, but the bond will remain strong.  I think the problem with most guys is they will see a provider, and even if they had a terrific session, they don't repeat for a month.  During the month you were away, she saw 20 other guys, at least, so while she will remember you, any chemistry you may have had is going to be forgotten and you will be starting over.  Its hard to get to ATF status with infrequent visits, both for you and the provider.  Oh yes, the other side of the equation is for you to become the ATF customer of the provider.  When you are both each others favorite, then you have reached hobby heaven.  Its magical and has the potential to last for years.  

This is a methodical approach, but I am trying to minimize my wasted time by stacking the deck in my favor by doing the research first.  Realistically, you never know which provider you are going to click the best with, but by focusing your hobbying to the activities and types of women you like, you increase the odds you will find the perfect match.  

I have had several ATF's during my many years in the hobby.  Great relationships that often resulted in long-term friendships even after the girl retired from the biz.

I have had some Asian spinners tell me they don't  work San Diego because of the large number (not just you) of customers that are packing major equipment, but I've never heard anything negative on that score from Caucasian providers.

With that said, perhaps if you focus your TER advanced search on taller providers (5-9+), you are more likely to find providers that will be comfortable with substantial size.  Just a suggestion.

This is probably the most helpful post I've ever seen on this board. You're theory with the front loaded visits is straight up genius. Can we get a provider to chime in on this concept?

Keep looking Mack, one will turn up  ( - :

CDL, you need to save this one for your resume'

This type of "front loading" and making yourself HER ATF has worked for me as well. Once there's a solid foundation, even as you drift apart and explore other providers, she'll be there like an old friend when you're looking for it.  

On a related note, I do enjoy a touring gal on occasion, but this inability to connect via frequent encounters can take the wind out of that sail

San Diego is one of the few large cities that doesn't fluorinate its water supply. So maybe the secret to having a huge cock is to have bad teeth

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a different thing.  Most touring girls are amenable to exchanging phone numbers and will be okay with an occasional text message while they are out of town to stay in touch and remain friends.  Sometimes a short text exchange once of week while they are out of town keeps the connection good and the home fires burning.  You will know in advance from them exactly when they are coming back, so I will often book the first day and then another session two days later.  After the second appointment, we both forget she was ever gone for a few months.  

I consider a "regular" to be anyone I see at least two times a month to as often as two times a week.  You can still average that with touring girls when they are in town by enjoying more time with them while they are here.

Around San Diego, Orange County, LA, and surrounding till Saturday check out my reviews and website if interested contact me directly

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I love the ideas floating around on this thread Is there anything better than immediate explosive chemistry? A good romance is something so wonderful!  

The best memories happen when there's a mental connection that enhances the physical passion.  
Mmmmmmmm  
Hurray for Fiery Romance, ATF's and friendships that last for years...

 

...i have achieved chemistry with several ladies by seeing them, as he states, often, but not within a weeks' time.

i have found that seeing someone within a month's time is enough for her to decide whether i'm worth putting in the effort on every session or not.

but i wouldn't stretch out the interval to more than a month or so.

Good advice and insight. Very helpful to the OP but also to others as well. But, for those of us with limited resources, there is no way we can see our companions that often. Still, your advice is spot on and very useful. Just what this board was created for. Thank you.

that you have found the system that works for you.   However, you have the kind of outgoing and commanding personality that is not easily forgotten by any woman who would meet you even once.  Some of us are not so memorable in person.  I also know that you gravitate to lower-volume providers, so that makes a difference in the chemistry as well.  If you are only one of two or three customers she has seen in a week versus twelve or fifteen, its much easier for someone like to you to make a lasting impression.  

So I agree that there are different ways to approach this that will work for different personality types, and the OP may consider everyone's method before deciding what might work best for him.

I have read your inquiry, "Mackdown", and what an excellent one I may add!  
The following is strictly in my honest opinion {imho}, and meant to possibly  
humor and enlighten.  It is certainly not protocol for every Provider, however
a general procedure to ponder in your search for what you desire.

One does not know unless one tries.  
Finding an "ATF" is a matter of searching for the explosive chemistry which
is oft-found through narrowing your search using the "search" procedures here on  
TER. Then the rest is research and reading reviews, which is standard procedure.
I liken it to "Fantasy Football" or "Fantasy Basketball" leagues if one partakes.
If anyone reading this doesn't understand the aforementioned,  
"google is your friend".
It is all subjective however, as we all know.

With that being said, consequently the next step, could be the following:
If your "accoutrements" are so overabundant, perhaps you should approach
with a kind and gentlemanly email with exactly that information, and of  
course your references.

{Next and yes, I'm "emphasizing the following"};
Keep in mind, I suggest the first email or pm
exchange with NOT discussing any illicit act or even innuendos as such.
You can possibly use "cheesy prose", or better yet, "just be yourself"!

You are seeking "companionship", and prospective Providers are providing this
companionship only"....between two adults, la la la la!
It should say something like:  
 "I'm Jamacian, I'm 6'5", 200lbs of pure muscle. I'm a gentle giant, but don't let my stature
 fool you...I'm a teddy bear, and am looking for hugs and cuddles." a.k.a. a "gfe experience".
 
This last part of your initial contact may make said Provider exclaim, "awwwh how cute!"
Consequently, her reticence and barriers may dissipate, and perhaps,
if she normally doesn't see Jamaican men, then she may do so, because you sound so  
gentlemanly and sweet.  Again, references that can be easily verified,  
will further solidify your quest.
"Viola!!"  

Wait for her reply. {that's the hard part, pun intended!}

Your next PM/email should respond to her reply, answer her questions thoroughly,
and possibly include "by the way, I'm extremely well-endowed;  
I'm 10 i***** in length, I'm __ in girt*".   "Is this going to be ok with you?"  
Or, also a good measure without even using typical anatomical terminology is,  
"I'm the size of a "Chapstick"  lipbalm, or I'm the girt* of a "Voss" water bottle."
Anyone can google these visuals, and immediately become enlightened.

Whatever your offerings and inquiries are, state them in a non-vulgar  
and respectful manner, so the Provider you're trying to rendezvous with knows  
exactly what possible excitement shall ensue.  
{Some people are just too vulgar in their initial contact, and this tends to
be off-putting for some}
Clearly don't say I'm an "Anaconda D****", because she may not like the
word "d***" either.
I know some of you are saying, "wtf"?}  Again, just imho.

Don't and I repeat, do not send d*** pics!! This is for your own personal safety!
Quite frankly some Providers take offense to one sending them anyway. {imho}
I personally don't even look at them.

I'm the true opposite of a prude, clearly!  I just don't need to see  
"accoutrements" as I personally enjoy the element of surprise!
For me it's like Christmas opening that first lovely package under the tree.
Ahhhh yes, "Christmas in the Spring sans snow, is truly a beautiful thing!"
Good luck in your quest.
"Desiderata", { Latin for "Desired Things" }
xo Angelina Jones

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AJ, thank you so much for your enlightened perspective. Very interesting and informative.

Goldie is a sweetheart without any perceivable bias against the items mentioned. Give her a try.  

Eva also excellent and extremely intellectually engaging. I am younger and try to find women who are intelligent, don't talk like they are from "clueless" and can hold an interesting conversation. Age range not super important but try and stay 10 years younger or 15 yrs older. Chemistry is critical for me so this gives some overlap in life experience and common reference points. Also I understand its business but I stay away from women whose sole drive is financial (or appears to be).  

Read their site, if they are open have some text/email/phone correspondence do that. If you are intuitive you should get a read quickly on compatibility.  

If all you are looking for in an ATF is the right look/menu who will accommodate your race/size/etc agree with search for taller women with right menu and reach out politely. For me the intellectual side as important. I have nixed options because of a phone call that I knew after we wouldnt work even though pics were smoking hot.  

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Gracias, ICM2 !  I'm always entertained and schooled by your
posts kind Sir!  TGIF Enjoy!

Mackdown,  I have no size prejudice and no race prejudice........ or perhaps I do..... every time a black man contacts me, and tells me he is tall and/or large, my response is YUMMY! Perhaps my prejudice is preference!  

lucidity.  Shows you even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.  Lol