With the recent news of how a Hooters' manager secretly video taped job applicants dressing into their outfits, it got me to wondering if providers have ever done the same with hobbyists. Just curious if there are any experiences from anyone and if so, what is the motive?

In most states, a video of a person (outside of a job/interview situation, of course) isn't a crime UNLESS it includes sound!!

Many girls thought that doing a audio recording of what happened in the room with a date would protect them, however it really could end up making them in more trouble than they would have been in to start with.  (LE, on the other hand would have immunity to utilize recordings as enforcement means.)

Sound recording IS against the law here in California, and several states; however a soundless video, say in the dressing room of your favorite department store, or even if your LANDLORD puts a camera in your rental unit!!

There aren't new laws against that in most states, if I'm up to date on my knowledge of this.

There are, I believe, currently legislative campaigns to correct this little loophole in privacy rights.  New York may have even already passed legislation regarding video invasion.

Of course, in public, all is fair!

If I'm I've gotten my facts wrong.. someone correct me.. I haven't looked into the legislative facts regarding this one for several months.

Elise [email protected]

although I am a bit incredulous at the concept that your landlord could put a no-sound video recorder inside your rental unit residence (say a bedroom), which unless I am incorrect, IS recognized legally as a private residence unless there is probable cause established/warrant issued (and the police have the landlord open the unit) or unless the owner has no "notification of entry" clause in the rental contract (and he/she can just walk right in), and that it would not be considered invasion of privacy. I mean, did I misunderstand this?  Otherwise, how often would THAT be abused?

As for providers and hobbyists, with the exception of any unscrupulous providers out there, I would actually think that there would be more hobbyists likely to do secret taping of this thing than providers.  I mean, who wouldn't want to be in their own porno with the lovely ladies of TER?

 Well Elise in part right and mostly wrong.If someone tapes with the intent for profit then all party's need what is called a modeling contract.It could be in the clients interest then to have someone tape you,make tons of money and then sue them.Not only would you be payed for your poor acting abilities but get that needed cash ofr a bunch of all niters with your fav girlie.So,yes it is quite illegal from that angle.No modeling contract,no filming.

The technical term is "misappropriation of image" as well as "invasion of privacy." If someone intends to profit off your image commercially, then you have a right to control access and ability of your image. Also, it will be argued that the young ladies seeking employment at Hooters had an expectation of privacy when they were changing their clothes in the trailer. Thus, the perverted creep violated that privacy and he will be liable in civil court. However, Criminal charges may be a different story.

Taping, such as in the landlord cases was merely for personal freaky perverted nature.

It isnt illegal in most states.  Only recently has New York begun to consider legislation against such.  I'm not hip to California laws, although it's late, I'm on land, and I'll do som research.

The moral of the story is, if your landlord lives in the duplex next door, make DAMN SURE that's not a two way mirror.  There really isn't legislation regarding people looking at you unless they're looking in your window in the dark of night.

I'll take corrections, PLEASE CITE so I can also do the same.

Elise, [email protected]

I typed in "legal privacy audiovisual tapes" as well as a seperate search under "illegal privacy audiovisual tapes"

There were tons of hits under those two.

One problem with pursuing crimes against persons who sold these types of tapes was finding the victim.  (many kept them under wraps for their personal habits of for a little circle of "friends:}

New York State seems to be at the forefront of the fight to stop this typeof activity.

Elise elegantelise at ziplip.com

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