I'm in the process of setting up a meeting with a super hot 21 year old who has been in the business for a couple of years.  She's contactable via HelpUBookHer and Ashley, there, has been super easy to work with.  Because it's an out of town engagement for her, I feel I should book (and am booking) a few hours.  So basically, it's not a small investment.

The thing is, no reviews yet...  

It's a pretty safe TOFTT, I imagine, and of course, we'll discuss details in person once things get started, but I'm wondering if I can assume anything about the encounter based on the fact that the girl is a PS and is working with HUBH.  I can't really ask Ashley about specifics by email, of course, so am kind of going in blind.  

Also, am I nuts to do this in the first place? ;

Ashley is the real deal..her girls are top notch..she books for a lot of ladies who have no reviews..you have absolutely nothing to worry about..book it..have fun..you might not have the chance again..

Well, I don't know who the girl is, so I can't say anything specific.  And, I've not booked anyone through HelpUBookHer/Ashley so I don't know whether what they say can be believed.  I have no reason to doubt them.

What I will say is that seeing someone without reviews can be hit or miss.  I've done it many times.  Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.  I've also been fortunate enough to see a few porn stars here and there who were "trying it out" to see if escorting is something they wanted to do. Some stayed.  Some didn't.  But, a lot of times it's a matter of attitude, chemistry, and what kind of day she (or you) have had up to that point.

The only piece of general advice I can give is to go in with an open mind.  Don't expect that if she does something on camera she'll be willing to do it with you.  Also, some girls get skittish about discussing specifics  with someone they don't know even when alone with them in a room.  For all they know, you could be cop even if you're booking through an agency.  So go slow, take it easy, and let her control events as she sees fit.  And be prepared to stop doing something and move on to something else if she says "no".

The best piece of advice I ever got was from my father who said: "Never treat a woman like a whore, even if she is one".  In other words, it doesn't matter if the woman is an escort, or your girlfriend, or a girl you met at a club somewhere, a hooker you picked up on the street, or whatever - if you treat her with courtesy and respect you'll do much better than if you act like a jackass or assume that just because you're paying her you can do anything you want.

Hope this helps.

Ashley is the best and wonderful. She won't do you wrong.

Before my last LA trip, which i just finished up last week, i did contact a couple people in April i would have liked to have seen via Eros...I offered references, mentioned that i post here, and had a specific requirement from which is there absolutely no exception, EVER - NONE..I didn't hear back, (actually i never even checked if they had reviews ir not, wouldn't have mattered anyway)...But that's ok, trip worked out very well, and the 2 new girls i met were wonderful...

I don't buy the reply about not expecting a girl to do in a private what she does in a film...I disagree with that 600%....We are adults, if we want to do in our private what she typically does on film that's our business....

Thanks guys, for both the general and specific advice.  

Couple things.  First, she's not UTR (she's on the HUBH site and also on TLC as "new") so I could just name her, I guess, but seems like it'd add little to the discussion and feels odd to do for some reason.  Second, she's been doing films for a couple of years but has only been escorting since mid-2012 and even then, only sporadically (according to ads posted here saying she's back from a break, etc.).  She's also damn expensive.  So no reviews makes some sense.

Anyway, I booked it.    Once in a lifetime opportunity, certainly legit, and I'm good with just rolling however it goes.  Should be a blast, no matter the menu or specifics.

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What I meant by my comment that you shouldn't expect a girl to do with you what they do on film is that girls on film may kiss but not want to do that while escorting.  They may do anal on film, but may not want to do it while escorting, or they may need more notice, or be more comfortable with you, etc.  They may do BDSM on film but may not be willing to do it while escorting.

There are a lot of things that girls do on film that they may not be willing to do while escorting.  Not just your requirement, although I have encountered a few girls who won't do that while escorting either, no exceptions.

The point is that when you have a date with a porn star, you shouldn't expect that everything you see her do in a film is available, and shouldn't assume it is.  Ask.  It might be.  It might not be.  It might require notice.  Or something else. But don't *expect* it, don't *demand* it, don't whine and point out that you saw them do it in such-and-such a scene and that they should do it with you too.

And, yes, we are adults.  If we want to do in our private what she typically does on film that's our business.  And she has the right to say "no".

That seems obvious.  I mean... most porn is without protection.

Of course she can say no...I've had girls reply no in past correspondences...We had a polite, & cordial exchange, but naturally, we did not meet...We both have a right to book the appts. we want...

This lifestyle should be an easy process (and it is) - if i want a grueling and a painstaking adventure, i'll watch the 3 current nominees to the Court of Appeals - DC Circuit play out...

As noted earlier, Chemistry is a big part of any session.  And IMHO if I'm going to pay market PS rates it wont be a TOFTT situation.

At a minimum she would have to have some reviews.  And some pre session email/phone chatter to see if some chemistry develops.

But to simply leave the ROI to chance.....aaahhhhhh, dont think so.

But good luck and I hope it works out!!

we have sat back and watched this thread develope. We will not send out a girl if we are not confident in her skills and personality. What not one of you has mentioned at all...That NOT EVERYONE WRITES Reviews...we WISH they did....it would shine a light on some of the girls we talk about on a weekly basis. Those of you that doesnt see ladies cause they have no reviews are VERY often missing out on an amazing time....but to each their own

The fact of the matter is that this client wants to see someone that has a great personalty and has been popular with great feedback. We wont work with girls that dont enjoy what they do...it wastes our time and the clients time.

We have built an amazing company thats know for great customer service and that goes for the ladies that we work with...

So Im 100% Confident that he will let you all know how wonderful a time he had....Or maybe he wont...cause as we said...Not EVERYONE writes reviews

Yep, confirmed. I've been in close contact with the agency and am very much looking forward to the meeting.  And yes, I'll leave a review.  If nothing else, it'll help avoid another thread like this.  

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My experience with Ashley has been great, she returns e-mails very quickly and is a pleasure to deal with

1) Agency gets awesome comments, and 95% or more of the listed reviews for the girls the agency works with are in the 9/10 range.  

2) Pointing out that girls don't necessarily do the same things escorting as on camera is obvious, and more than a little condescending.  It's not the FAQ for newbies board.  

3) I discount "chemistry" by phone or email a bit, though I can see why some guys like it.  In my experience, a little flirting is fun, but that's it. This is P4P, not a dating service.  YMMV, again, but in my experience there can be little real chemistry in spite of lots of pointless chatter before you meet and lots of chemistry with zero chatter before you meet.  Totally depends.

4) The girl in question is stunning, has a hot voice, appears to be able to act at least a little bit, and hell, I want to meet her.

5) I'm in a pretty good position financially, and just don't mind taking a chance even at PS rates.  I've mainly seen fairly expensive providers (some UTR and thus not reviewed), only hobby a couple times a year, and the rates aren't eye-popping to me, or beyond the point where I'll roll the dice.

6) I'm pretty comfortable making a new situation work.  Pretty willing to just make it fun for both of us, no drama, etc. and that also leads me to take a few chances with the right opportunity.  So far, that attitude has worked well in many situations.

Bottom line, maybe not for everyone, but for me, after collecting all the data I can, it's exciting and reasonable to see this girl, even with no reviews, based on all of the above.  

You'll see how it goes in a review in a couple of weeks!

Also, gotta say, Ashley at Helpubookher has been awesome with communication and that helps.  Seems like a really solid agency so far.

 

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....again, Good Luck and I sense it will work out for you.

Unfortunately, it did not happen.  The agency wasn't at fault, and I'm not going to trash the reputation of the provider -- who the agency says hasn't flaked before and has good feedback, though no public reviews -- over a one-time no-show.  But for anybody reading later, yep... an unreviewed girl is a gamble, and while I liked my odds, I lost this time.  I'm bummed but life goes on.  

FWIW, Ashley has done what she can to make it right, although there's actually not much that can be done.  The provider is young, and I trust will get some guidance from Ashley, so I'm just letting it go.

Final follow up.  The agency has removed the girl from their site due to this and other issues.  Girl was a total flake, but is not listed anymore.  Agency did what it could to remedy.  Wanted to post so nobody thinks I'm talking about anybody currently listed at helpubookher.