Hello everyone - I will try and not make this too too long winded here but it probably will be haha.  But I've got a major issue with a major porn star provider. That at this time I would rather not mention her name just yet only just to say that she has been in the game a long time and she's Asian as well.

I wanted to know from the board what is your opinion on doing deposits to girls?? Especially if you book them directly and send them the funds for a meetup at a later date. With the rest of the money due at the schedule meet.

I did this with this girl who is based in LA and I was visiting Vegas and she was coming to see me.   I've known her for 9yrs and we'll basically to be blunt - she fucked me - and I don't mean the kind she is supposed to be good at. I got sick on my trip out to see her and I had to cancel on her and cut my trip very short b/c of it.

I mean it's not like I wanted to get sick and of course I'm not an asshole and say - yeah go ahead and come on out and see me so I can maybe get you sick too. I mean come on here.......

I told this girl this via Twitter messages so she would know that she didn't come and see me. But I didn't hear a fucking peep from her for over 2 weeks until I have to message her and find out what the hell is going on. I mean geez she could have at least said - get better or something etc. etc. - but nope she said nothing at all!!

But she didn't - long story short she had a wretched fucking attitude as if she was harmed or had her "precious" fucking time was wasted. Like uhhh are you joking??

I send this unappreciative cuntrag $1750 of my money as upfront bank wire to which I'm sure she may have at best spent $150-$300 on a airline ticket of which she obviously pocketed the rest. I mean talk about easy money for her. I mean she fucks you w/o having to touch you - nice going girl wow!!!!

So she goes into the fact later on that this is not refundable blah blah shit I which hate and she is still copping an attitude like she is the one harmed and so forth with my fucking money I paid her!!!

This is totally unexpected from her considering I have known ‎her for 9yrs and this is definitely unexpected. I wanted to let everyone know about it and your valuable feedback. And yes I will write up very bad review on her and let everyone know who she is.

It's shocking to me in how she acted - never expected that but lesson learned. I will never send anyone another deposit and I've seen 3 other porn stars in Vegas w/o bullshit like this happening.

 
tbone41

...and I'll say it again - paying an escort or an escort agency a deposit is a Bad Thing.  I say more about this in the thread about Pam Peaks below.  I was burned a few times (but not to the extent you were) and I learned this lesson the hard way.

I can understand why some escorts and agencies ask for the deposits.  But, I won't do them.  Ever. If that's the sticking point, I just move on to someone else.

......well like I said lesson learned mrfrench but was totally shocked at the fucked up attitude she had and gave about it....

Like she was doing me the favor - now for all you girls in the biz who read this - get this thru your thick fucking head - the person who pays you is the one doing you the favor!!! PERIDO THE END!!!

Not the other way around, I guess that's why they do porn b/c the are too mentally fucked up and flaky to do anything else in life.

And FYI and the porn star I am talking about is Kianna Dior - I WAS a long time fan and one of my #1 fav porn stars ever but she ended that real quick - deport her ass back to fucking Canada EHHHH hahaha

EPIC FAIL!!!!

I don't do deposits (or porn stars) but I still feel your pain. You might not be able to write a review. (1) You must actually meet to write a review. NCNS or other screwup can't be reviewed. (2) If you have had a meeting, the review must be submitted within three months.  

Review submission rule #10. Each review must recount a visit that took place within the last three months in order to be timely. A lot can change with a provider - even in this relatively short amount of time.

I think the best you may be able to do is provide info via PM to those who inquire.  (PM me. I'm wondering who it is.

at $1750..you got t-boned..the most i have ever paid was $200 and that was to Pam and her agency..i would never pay any large deposit to any provider..especially a porn star..

No doubt I did - I was paying $3500 for 3hr and that included her airfare and I didn't think it would be a problem and I didn't have any plans of canceling.  But her handling of it was truly and utterly pathetic and totally ungrateful with a real fucked up mindset.

So be warned about this one folks - Kianna Dior is a true utter stuck up bitch - who needs to be booted out of the biz - maybe Trump will send her ass packing back to Canada hahahaha

 

Thanks imposter I appreciate that info but I could try you know and it may stick who knows?? lol

And I will tell you here its Kianna Di

for some reason my response back to mrfrench wasn't posted - not sure why

but thanks for the help man - like I said lesson learned

I wanted to post up on here to let others know not to do what I did and to let people that Kianna Dior is a total bitch in disguise - don't bother or waste your time no matter what good reviews she may have

EPIC FAIL!!!

Thanks for giving the man a name...

I actually thought you were talking about someone else and was reconsidering that provider being on my bucket list because of that. My bucket list is now happy again.

thank you for telling people her name. We book..or should say Used to book for her as we have removed her from our roster as we will not deal with models like that.
on a different note: Deposits are not a bad thing at all. We do at times charge a deposit for screening or travel dates. When you make a deposit with an agency it shows the chosen provider that your serious and have no intension on flaking on your appointment.  
If the model flakes on you and a deposit was given then its either held as a credit or returned...
when you make a deposit with an agency the girl isn't getting paid till she completes the date.
Legit agencies with good reputations are here as a safety net for both you the hobbyist and the models.

Sorry that Kianna did that to you...FYI..you were paying more than we would have booked her for

Hey there HelpUbooker - I have never used your svc before but maybe I should in the future

Thank you for helping I do appreciate it.  Like how you said the money would be returned just a normal regular business transaction like you purchased something from Target or something haha

But I just dig the fact that these type of transactions are not "unrefundable" to 90% of these girls like how jaded does the girl have to be to say hey!!! I couldn't make it - I got sick and had to leave - family emergency - I mean real life shit

And then when you want it back when the apt was canceled - she claims the ole this is nonrefundable shit?? Get the hell out of here!!!  You know I shouldn't probably bring it up here but this isn't the first time this happened to me.

I sent in a smaller deposit almost damn nearly 2yrs ago to Vanessa (Raquel Devine) to book Miko Lee and found out that Miko wasn't even available for the time and city I wanted.  I asked if the funds could be returned and it was the same answer. This thankfully was for only $500 towards that, but still the mindset is the same.

Now in all fairness to Vanessa so it doesn't seem like Im bashing on her - she does still talk and deals with me and has a shit ton of girls and will help you book whomever and that deposit will count towards booking whomever I want.  The only problem is I just cant have it back.  So its odd but its the mentally of the girls of the industry - very lame and sad to say the least

 

Hahaha no worries cullen - yeah she was my all time fav for yrs!!!! But it doesn't matter how fucking hot or whatever they are if they got a bad fucking attitude then its the biggest turn off in the world and then we are done.  I think most will agree

She now fits into that "pornstar" hypercritical role now among other girls like Lisa Ann and Jenna Jameson and so forth.  Who act like they are above other girls in the biz but yet will fuck anything that moves for a certain fee of course. haha  Those type of girls are sick and a huge waste of space.  

 

So let me understand this...

you presently represent Kianna Dior and have booked her for appointments?

you read one unsubstantiated claim from an anonymous source on TER defaming her, and you immediately accept it, don't defend a person whom you've been representing for years, and on the basis of one claim you remove her from your "roster"?

With business associates like you, Kianna Dior doesn't need enemies...

I would never book thru an agency as unethical and mercenary as you

Im sure that really hurts their feelings at Helpubookher by what you said.....you sound like some mega fan of Kianna trying to defend her and her utter bullshit she pulled on me.

Keep in mind kids if she had sent me the money back or somehow made it right with me in a proper business manner then I wouldn't have had to post any of this.  

One of my goals and to also alert others to this traitorous skank is that she will see this and do the right thing by making it right. But uhhh doubtful b/c of the type of girl she is and so forth.  But I mean hey its worth a try is all to me at least

Dear TER members,
 Had I not been involved, and had I read this thread, I would have thought that KIanna Dior was a thief and a scammer. Unfortunately, the Internet offers anonymity to those who want to make untrue allegations, name those whom they want to disparage and then hide behind a screen name... so they risk nothing, but try and ruin someone else's good reputation. Anyone who has ever dealt with me knows that I am honest and fair to a fault. We take deposits, because someone wishes to reserve our time, and in this case, pay our travel expenses to the their desired destination. The plane ticket was purchased, and in this case the client cancelled suddenly one day and a half before the appointment. When I tried to discuss a settlement, this particular client wanted all of his deposit back, meaning that I would lose the value of an unusable plane ticket plus all of the deposit with which he had reserved my time with. My policy for return of a deposit is 48 hours for travel, and he was past that. I tried to discuss returning something to him, but he refused anything but full return of his money, and when I told him that wasn't fair, he threatened me and then blocked me, ending any further possible discussion. And then he posted here. I won't get into any further defense of myself on this forum, as I've learned that there are a few here who make it a sport to  try and "rubberneck the accident." However, for my fellow providers, if you would like to avoid this unscrupulous gent, please private email me from your verifiable address and I will be happy to provide his name and contact information. I don't "out" people on public forums. I hope everyone has a pleasant Sunday. Kianna Di

Hahaha wow still as always a pack of liars and misnomers - no refunds were told me to no matter what timeframe.  She never said I have 48hr timeframe to cancel blah blah shit.  If so is it listed on her site somewhere?? hmmm no it isn't.

She is just making up shit on the fly as she goes on here to make herself look and sound good to the thread and on the site.  Sorry girl its too late for that.   If I would have cancelled in that timeframe it wouldn't have mattered.  She clearly told me via her long ass winded twitter messages saying this was and I quote "Non Refundable" - so another lie she tells on here has been squatched.

And I never said I wanted the full freight back - just minus the air fare fees.  That would have been fine by me but nooo she wouldn't budge or do that at all.  She kept ranting on and on how her fucking precious whore time was wasted.  Like really? You were out 15 mins to what book a fucking flight?? That was it hahaha

Keep in mind this stupid bitch couldn't even send me her fucking wire details properly to BOA - b/c she didn't even know her own fucking routing # I had to figure it out for her.  Like wow what are you fucking 12? And this is what your first ever wire you have received?

Also this goofball offered in returned for me being out the money - 2 cam sessions or 4 phone/Niteflirt phone call sessions of my choice for which amounted to $1400-$1600 of my money doesnt quite add up to that $ amnt - that's fucking horse laughable there.  I don't know how much she has left b/c she wont disclose that but Im sure my guess is accurate b/c a flight booked from LA to Vegas doesn't cost a lot folks - I mean come on.

And why would I accept such a ridiculous limited offer and especially why would I want to deal or even remotely touch her or get off to her?  When she had such a shitty fucking attitude about the situation??  Oh yeah sure that definitely turns a guy on (unreal!!)  I mean if I got her on the phone all I would have done was set her straight and cussed her out.  But she would have just hung up and wimped out basically like she is doing now

And that BIG fucking attitude about like she was doing me the favor!!!  I guess she didn't read all of my posts on my thread.  Where the guy who pays the chick is the one doing the girl a favor.  She probably missed that somewhere who knows.  But like wow for a woman she has quite the set of balls for thinking I caused her issues.  (while she sits back and counts my money trying to defend herself)

And if you think that pvt messaging people so providers can avoid me hahaha please!!! - all the top agencies have no problem with me and it wont work nor do I care b/c the cool girls I have seen or will future see me understand and know what really goes on - the money talks and your bullshit is walking.

The very fact you came on here and had some other poser (named friendlyangel) try to defend you only backs up my story even more.

Like my original post said.  Its all true and I gave her ample opportunity to make it right.  She ignores me for over 2 weeks after I returned back from my trip and says not a peep to me and then after much repeated attempts trying to message her shes cops a shitty attitude as if I harmed her.

Lets go over it again.  She has MY FUCKING MONEY and a lot of it.  She is out nothing.  She never went to Vegas nor do I stand her up.  She is out nothing but her "honest and fair to a fault" reputation" as she says.  Such a joke

So she left me no choice to expose her sorry ass first on here next to other regulatory agencies specifically to BOA telling them they have "porn starlet" as a business acct holder until I get the remaining funds she pocketed back the onslaught is on.  Im sure that BOA will love to hear how they house and do biz with pornographers who scam people out of their money.  Its still her call to make it right but she wont do it b/c she is greedy and selfish.

So don't every come into my airspace again on my thread or this site you've been warned Vickie enough is enough - like John Goodman used to say on the movie The Big Lebowski  "Your out of your element"

 
 

I think you assume too much. Kianna was dropped form their site a while ago, not right after this post.

There are only two types of guys in the hobby, those that have made mistakes , and those that will make mistakes. The key is to try to minimize your losses.  It takes guts to post your misfortunes. You are helping other guys.

It's really tough when you meet your idol and he or she doesn't live up to your expectations.  I think it's happened to just about everyone.  It's tough.  It happened to me some time ago with a Big Name Porn Star from the 80s.  The session wasn't the worst I'd ever had but it wasn't that far off.

What we all have to keep in mind is that even when an escort (porn star or not) is giving you the Girl Friend Experience, she is NOT your girlfriend, she's not even your friend.  She's someone who, for a certain amount of money, will act a certain way or will let you do certain things with her or to her.  

It's all about the Benjamins...

Thanks man - I didn't wanna do it but I did it b/c I wanted to alert others to her BS

And mainly and most importantly to put pressure on her to give me my money back

So far the alerting part is going well but I haven't heard a peep about getting my money back, and also for some reason some posts on my thread have been disappearing as well.

B/c a user named y2j said he was on my side about this and asked me to show some of those twitter messages and I did and never got posted.....hmmmm I don't get that at all

Yeah pretty much mrfrench, but hell I didn't even get to the physically seeing her part yet and she already epically failed haha.

So I wont rest til she gives me my money back minus the airline fees.  She deserves this and then some - she basically didn't realize that she fucked with the wrong dude on this shit

Just do the right thing and give the dude back his FULL refund.  

Helpubookher2 gave me back a full deposit refund when one of their talents couldnt make my appointment.

Easy way to tell who is not being truthful.  They messaged via twitter so unless he deleted the conversation he has proof of what they both said.

Nice!!! - Im glad to hear you got your fund back.  Thanks for the support man.  It's good to see this site after all these yrs I've been using it is still is the best, it may not be perfect but 90%+ on here agree with me and realize how fucked up and wrong this is and how I have been treated.

 

 

Hey y2j for some reason your original message was deleted and my reply to you was never posted either.

But I did post a copy and paste of some of our twitter messages but basically one that says that there are no refunds!!!!

I don't know how to post a screenshot or pic......so anyone can let me know I can post it again and hopefully the moderators approve it and actually post it this time b/c they didn't the last time

You guys probably don't remember me but you guys TOTALLY returned a deposit to me when a performer could not make it.  

Ya'all are aces in my book!

Joss

Hi I drive expensive cars on the back of peoples stolen money.......sounds about right no??

Tweets out shit like that driving expensive cars - must be nice to get $1750 for doing nothing.  I mean what is that a Porsche? Wow!!! ok

 
 

Obviously nobody knows the story but the two of you, but i gotta side with Kianna here.  

If I book a hotel, and cancel, the hotel doesn't care if I'm sick. If I cancel too late, that is now a room they may not be able to rent to someone else. They had it reserved for me and now I can't make it. All that time they didn't spend looking for another reservation cause they were counting on my money. Any offer of a partial refund or cam shows are, frankly, more than she had to do. Given your emotion-filled reaction in this forum, and her rather calm one, I'm guessing your immediate reaction was harsh when you heard anything but the words "full refund."

Yes, it would be decent for her to give you some back, which it sounds like she offered, but she doesn't have to. But I don't blame you for feeling the sting. Losing that kind of money sucks.

Thank you but I don't need that kind of help chief.....

B/c on one hand you side with her but on the other you say you feel my sting like uh? What?

It was better that you hadn't posted anything at all.

I have tried a couple of times of posting the twitter messages but ask the moderators why they wont it let it post when I have tried to show proof of what Im saying.

I am here to prove.  She has nothing to do she has my money already.  So in her sick head shes already won.  Thus as you say her "calm" attitude is the reason why.

But why I am still here as a warning to others and to her that this shit aint over.  Til the money has been returned.  And believe me there are other ways besides coming on here and letting other "like minded" members know about it.  And not stupid pussy wimped minions or morons siding with a none scamster.

Thanks but no thank

I wished I would have used them after what happened to me.  Good to know that there are still good places out there.

Glad to hear it thanks for the post Joss take car

So i'm confused did you cancel your app with her & if so,why go through all that trouble if you weren't 100 % sure of your trip ,& if you did't cancel i'm sorry for your loss but like others have said ,you where setting yourself up to get ripped off by sending her the money upfront.Also wtf you can't find a decent hooker in Vegas come-on thats like taking sand to the beach jeez.

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What? Is that question for me man? Explain it man

 

It seems you acknowledge the fact you have the $.  He says he is not asking for all of his $ back.  Find a middle ground and settle it so you both can move on.  You know that is fair and he should too.

Im afraid she wont do shit my friend but I appreciate the support.  I tried to keep this thread alive but it only goes so far.  I tried posting another thread about this last week but I guess the goofy ass moderators took it down.

I will get my funds back don't you worry.  She fucked with the wrong dude on this one. Traitorous skan