Just wondering why some PS providers have more rules when escorting...

There are some who on their films have done it all, greek, DP, gangbang..but when they do the escorting, they have rules, huge add on fee to do greek, or wont do it at all...

Going thru reviews, girls like Tory Lane, Chelsea Zinn, Havana Ginger have done it all, but when its comes to escorting they arent like what you see..

atleast the filthy hardcore pse

Read somewhere that Tory Lane doesnt do FK or OWO with clients..

Strange how some PS set strict limits on what they will do with clients when their porn scenes are so wild.

Without opening up the whole escort fee vs. filming fee can of worms, there are some logical reasons to some of the questions you raise.  For example, most of the scenes you see are without a condom but it is the exception where a PSE will do FS without a condom.  Obviously, while the adult industry's testing protocol is far from perfect, the PSE has a certain level of trust in the testing system and if she's been in the business for awhile, probably knows most of the male talent.  Whereas with hobbyists, she is often meeting strangers that she knows nothing about.

Greek is an interesting issue.  Generally, porn companies will pay a significant additional fee for an anal scene instead of a standard b/g scene, so that's not really all that different.  I don't have a great answer for why a PSE would do greek for a scene but not while escorting.  Could be a safety/comfort level thing again; could be she really does not like it but does it to get film work; could be she does not feel like she has to do it to get the escort work; etc.

providing a pse level of service.  That is why reviews are so important...There are some pretty damn hot providers out there that would never consider doing a porn flick, but will make you feel like you are in one during your session. There are porn babes that trigger a fantasy but will not in some cases even provide a GFE level of service.  What really bothers me, is often their rates.  I might very well be willing to shell out 1500 + for the fantasy babe of my dreams...but I certainly would not expect her to turn her head away when I lean in for a kiss and remark " I only kiss my boyfriend" !..LOL

There is one big reason.  The porn industry has an extensive(although by no means perfect) system for testing for HIV and other STDs.  A performer can feel relatively comfortable that her scenes pose little health danger to her.  While 99.9 % of hobbyists will be similarly clean, the provider has no similar method for being sure of that.

and YES i understand about the testing and safety...


I'm just curious why some of the wildest girls on screen are strict with their rules when escorting...

and this is with protections, not asking for full service bareback..everything done with protection..

yet they rather not do greek or make up high $$ to discourage you...i have exchanged emails with PS and thats the kind of response i get when it comes to greek...

and the dfk part...crazy how some of these girls will do DP and do kissing on scree and take two cocks in their mouth..but while escorting kissing isnt allowed or no OWO....

Wonder if they even like doing all that or just do it for the money or take some hard shots of tequilla before doing their filming

Arent they on the set for hours, doing the film, taking photoshoots, and doing the traveling to get there..

So they are getting paid for their time...


So doesnt make sense for a consumer to pay that much when we are looking for an hour or two...

But it would be nice to get same experience as you see on their films..

"but it is the exception where a PSE will do FS without a condom"...

Speak for yourself...You don't know what goes on with every PSE/client meeting.....I'm not spending money to AIM test & sometimes 1.5 hrs. in traffic on the 101 (to get to the Van Nuys AIM) for a BBBJ....

Greek doesn't interest me at all, so I could care less...

Fair enough...though I would suggest that you may have proven my point.  If others want to disagree that's fine but I would argue that you would be the exception in getting updated AIM tests, etc.  Given all of the consternation here about rates, it would be surprising to hear that the vast majority of hobbyists seeing PSE's are spending the extra money and going through the trouble of getting a recent AIM/HIV test done.  And, if you are a hobbyist and you see a PSE who will do BBFS without seeing a recent test, I would think while tempting, it should give you pause as to whether the risk is worth the reward.

I know-I don't understand it either but I guess I've been lucky because every porn star HAS been as wild in person as she is in her films, and in a few cases, they've actually let me do things with them that are not even ALLOWED to be shown in US porn!

I'm sure you have come across a PSE who would not do FS with you and you didn't book her. I think that's the point that is being made.

Just what's not allowed in the US? Abbreviate if needed.

In porn, you have complete up to the minute health (HIV/STD statud) on your "partner" right there in front of you, certified by the porn industry health standards. Generally that professional partner is just as educated on safe sex practices as the female porn star leading the movie content. So everyone involved knows where they stand

Porn stars and most escorts are fully trained in "safe sex practices." When it comes to meeting a gentleman for a potential short term love affair, we have to take the necessary precautions in order to not only keep ourselves safe and healthy, but our lovers and clients safety as well.

I've been disappointed more than once with an advertised PSE. Found out at least with me they were nothing near their porn scenes in person (I am not talking about BBFS or Greek) and this was going off of good reviews. Made me regret I paid the PSE rate when I could have seen two to three great independent providers with that green. Live and learn.

1.  Some porn stars ONLY work on camera with their boyfriends or husbands.  They're not going to do with you, a total stranger, what they will do with their SO.

2.  Some porn stars don't like things like greek but do them on film because they've been told that their career is over if they don't.

3.  I hate to bring this up but some of the actresses may get hyped up on drugs and/or alcohol for shoots and do things that they would not normally do.

4. Every encounter is different.  Just because a porn star won't kiss *you* doesn't mean she won't kiss *me*.  You can substitute any activity for the word "kiss' in that last sentence.  Remember that looks, attitude, hygiene, chemistry, references, and other factors all play a part in making each encounter a unique experience and could make my experience different from yours.

The average fee for a filming is about $700 and they are on the set for an average of 3 to 4 hours..Sometimes they have to keep fucking if the scene is not what the Producer wants..

As for escorting the lady's goal is 1k per hour but 99% of them do not get it especially with the economy..

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Seems like main reason is bc of testing for STDs and being comfortable with the person and safety


However, i am not talking about having bareback full service...

Even with the protection on, there are providers who dont live up to their porn scenes, and have rules about dfk and owo....

i mean, you would think after seeing the nastiest scenes and I mean this as a compliment, these girls go all out in their scenese ( DP, Gangbang, GREEK) likes of Tory Lane, Chelsea Zinn, Adrianna Deville, Diamond Foxx, Havana, Shay Sights...

i mean is the experience with them like what you have seen in their films, you would think they way they have gone all out hardcore in their films they wouldnt have any rules!!

Adrianna Deville does anal (but she likes a heads up to prepare). A lot of other girls will do things with some but not others. It depends on the person, how you book them, etc. If you book independently, you can talk about what you want to do. If you book through an agency, they tend to do less. Just my experience/ comments I have heard.

I have heard Harley Raine is just as good as her scenes..


But i think i read on this board Brooke Haven, who is very intense in her scenes isnt like that when escorting and doesnt do greek or daty...

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And another reason porn stars aren't always as wild in person as they are in their videos might be because, when they're doing it on video, they know that their performance is going to be captured on video for everyone to see, and let's face it, the wilder a woman is in her scenes usually means that she starts to become very popular, and the more popular a porn star is, the more porn directors will want to use her in the movies. When that same porn star is in private with a hobbyist she might think that she doesn't have to be as wild as she is in the movies, especially if the hobbyist is kind of mellow and doesn't exactly ask her to do certain things. And one final thing: some porn stars, no matter how wild they are in their videos, might really "fake" their horniness for the camera, when in reality, are just not the "wild nympho" that we all think that they are! LOL!

Had permission from Olivia to post this, we all know how beautiful and great provider she is..here is her insight..


ok THIS IS MY OPINION AND AM NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE A LOT BUT NOT EVERYONE





Why some providers aren't like what you see on films -

I cant speak for everyone but I think on film the provider is in her “Porno” character she’s expected to be a certain way but when you see someone off set for a private she can be a little
more her self …I mean lets be real on set most of that is an act u did know that right ……. she’s “acting “ not saying she’s not having fun or enjoying herself but no one is goanna scream and practically
Some porn stars don't like things like greek but do them on film because cum cause she just got her nipple sucked……..



.Some porn stars don't like things like greek but do them on film because

> they've been told that their career is over if they don't
.
I don’t think that’s the case that there career would be over I
Think most girls know that just B/S however there are some assholes out
there that may get away with saying that to some of the very young girls that are new and really don’t know better. I think doing it on film for one
They know who they are working with, so theres a comfort level most girls have only a few people they will do anal with for same reason, and size has a
factor, and once you have done a few then most of the time your always gonna get booked for anal .Not to mention they getting paid a lot more then a client wants to pay


I hate to bring this up but some of the actresses may get hyped up on
> drugs and/or alcohol for shoots and do things that they would not normally
> do.
This is absolutely true again I am not speaking for every one but a pretty good amount yes this goes for male and female talent a lot do whatever there thing is just to be able to
do the scene I don’t think so much to do what they normally wouldn’t do but maybe to do what they would like to do with out feeling little shy about it or maybe just gives them that extra confidence to get a little more crazy or just takes the edge off.


Every encounter is different. Just because a porn star won't kiss *you*
> doesn't mean she won't kiss *me*. You can substitute any activity for the
> word "kiss' in that last sentence. Remember that looks, attitude, hygiene,
> chemistry, references, and other factors all play a part in making each

Yes this is true and yes we all have our rules for the most part we stick to them but there are some things you just don’t ask
Because your right she may not kiss one as to she mite another I firmly believe that has a lot to do with
How you take care of your self hygiene fresh everything is a big must and Tthat goes both ways……and somethings just need to be saved for private the girls give up a great deal of themself  men need to understand  to let a girl have something to herself and her private life.




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 Olivia

You know Debi, I'm glad you chimmed in on this subject because I was going to say that you are one of the women who IS exactly like in person the way you are in your films! Go Deb!!!

First off, you look beautiful in this scene. Secondly, I'd like to compliment you on your acting ability, but, as I've learned, there was no acting involved in this scene.

Quite simple when a guy wants to be with a pornstar he wants her to be in here "porno" character....Why else would a guy want to be with the pornstar....To find out what her favorite color is??...I don't think so....I've been with 4 porn girls and 2 were awesome in everyway and they were in "porno" character.....On top of that they were both very  sweet and the other 2 were ok nothing over the top and were not in "porno" character...I wasn't surprised how my time went with one of them as I had read reviews and the reviews were dead on but the other is a very well known pornstar and it was a goodtime but not a "pornstar" time and she was not in "porno" character...To sum up there is nothing wrong with a porngirl being herself but part of who you are is that you are doing porn and that is the main reason why a guy want's to see you in the first place

Best to inquire up-front before the session or you may be disappointed. I've been with porn stars who are known for some of the nastiest greek scenes on film but when attempting to do this with them off-camera, I was told that it isn't on the menu.