Nina Hartley, Amber Lynn, Teri Weigel, and Lovette are all owed money by Body Miracle. The owner won't pay them. This information came directly from a girl on his site who is also owed money. Notice that Nina Hartley is now with Exotica-2000. Nina was exclusively with BM for a couple of years. So something must have happened for her to leave.  

Another troubling sign is that a new agency, Sophies Dream Girls, was started by the phone girls from Body Miracle.

Is the end near for Body Miracle?

I do not know if this is true or not but if you book direct you would not have to be worrying if one agency is nearing the end, if a new agency is been created from former employees or if one agency is screwing you with rates and appointments. As many members from this boards have said here in the past, when the ladies are not happy of the way their tours have progressed, they tend to seek other options while bad-talking of their current ones, but you might be right.

ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS book direct.

LOTR

Who Knows never believe rumors. Besides BM was always RUDE on the phone. So i dont really care if they stay in business.

hogan

The fact is that nothing is owed to Nina Hartley or Amber Lynn by BodyMiracle. Lovette and Teri Weigel were paid a week late on one occasion, but are now paid in full. This hardly indicates any financial trouble. Those who know these girls can easily verify this.

The agency is doing business as usual and is adding new talent all the time. We continue to sponsor tours each week with great porn stars, which we couldn't do if we weren't solid.

Sophies was started by BM phone girls?  hah, that's cruel-but-usual justice for you!  agencies in general always risk on-the-job training for their staff (especially those who take down the names of their precious clients). one of the more successful upscale escort agencies in my town was backstabbed when one of their popular girls, who after having worked the phones for her boss (while on break from escoring) one day up and left and started her own agency, having essentially swiped all her former boss's client contact info!

when i first contemplated using PSE agencies, i emailed them a few times and never once got a reply (even after i explained to them i was the type of client they would be looking for, but nada!) to be fair in this instance this was E2K not BM ...  it seems nearly everytime i called these agencies inquiring about rates i was confronted with the classic "hard sell" ... the girl on the phone's EVERY other sentence was "yes, do you wanna book her?" -- i'm serious, i could've asked her "is the world coming to an end?" and she no doubt would've answered "yes, do you wanna book her?"  


whoever's running this new Sophies agency better prioritize customer service or they too will soon become just another agency everyone dreads having to use

... and tried to find out any info I asked for, now E2K was a whole diffrent story, on the phone, via e-mail, it didn't matter, just plain rude and didn't want to help me at all, thats why I never used them and it's a shame they has so many women i would love to have seen, which now I have been able to see a few directly

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OK guys, you know the drill by now, always book direct and never ever give a deposit.

as always
HAPPY HUNTING

I've heard a lot of guys complain about the way they were treated by the phone girls of both BM and E2K... In my experiences with both agencies, the girls have for the most part been courteous and helpful.  And this was even  including the time I was just another "newbie" to the hobby...

But one thing to keep in mind is that most of the agency phone girls receive a "commission" for every booking, so if you're calling to ask a lot of general questions, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that they were curt and short... every minute on the phone answering your questions is a minute that they don't have the opportunity to "close a deal" with another caller, so maybe the agencies should consider another way of compensating them... I'm betting that would improve customer relations.

One thing I will say... no phone lady has EVER come close to being as helpful and down-home southern friendly as Melanie, the phone lady for the now defunct Adult Star Fantasies and Safe Haven... she was a peach!

It's an old story... Heidi Fleiss made her fame and money by stealing the client book of a famous Hollywood Madame (Madame Alexis?  or something like that) that she was working for...

Giving employees intimate knowledge of your business is a two edged sword, and always has the potential of coming back and biting you on the ass.

They know you are a high roller and a respected hobbist. that is why i would think they would treat you nice compared to a first time caller. They are the rudest people i have met in the industry. there phone people only care if you book  i would have to agree with singleton

hogan

it sure look's so, read teri weigel's post!!

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do you think that they would say anything else??

Give it up Ed. Stop playing political games with one of your discounting agencies. The ladies have spoken so you can now tell the TRUTH.

Seriously, you seem to be popular and have plenty of money to spear, why don't you, Kathy, Anna and Jeanna Fine form an Escort Agency Alliance because these Pornstars and you are well respected?

Asian Fan

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Amber dear, this ain't my feud or my business, so i'm not going anywhere near it ... i just wanted to ask the board a question

does this girl "have a pair" or what ?!?  LOL  

i think not only does she have a (lovely) pair but she has a pair where most men don't!  

kudos to you Amber, for straight tough talk and telling it like it is (which i'm assuming is they way your're telling it is

in any bizness you gotta be your own keeper and get straight with whoever fucks with you ... i just wish you all could book direct and be done with yet another avenue of exploitation ... but then i realize that's for a parallel (perfect) universe we don't live in

Teri and Lovette are not the only people who were owed money, and there are still many providers owed money for services rendered weeks ago.  This "one-week" behind statement is a load of crap.  Before any of this happened, I was owed money for three weeks because a certain someone wouldn't give "permission" for MY money to be mailed, and having to cancel a long overdue vacation I had planned for my family.  How DARE you...Oh and I love this one...telling the office girls to write the wrong zip code so the check takes longer to get there?  While you claim to be the victim, maybe you should look at the people who haven't gotten paid or were paid late, even weeks before your office people left you.  Remember, agent, you are a referral service...the agency works for the provider and the client...not the other way around.  Although I'm not owed any money (thank God), I will not continue to engage in business with someone who would do this to my cohorts.  If it can happen to them, it can surely happen to me, and I'll be damned if someone else will spend my money as he receives it.  Since our industry doesn't isn't condusive to legal recourse, the best I can do for my cohorts is to boycott your business.

See the problem with E2K was I was calling to jsut say hey I want to see Miko Lee, find out this and that for me and I'm in and they just got down right rude, So screw em, they didn't want my money and they didn't get it.

I also made a post about the problem, didn't name names or the agency, was just venting a little, then I get a private E-mail from someone saying that they are aware of who I am, but they can't talk about those things over phone or in E-mail because of LE and that they didn't think it fair that I would post my gripes about them and air dirty laundry over the boards, WHAT!!! You know who I am, then I said they should not have had a problem letting me know a couple small things before I set up a meeting that I was only seconds away from making.

I am not in this to waste my time, or someone elses and thats all they seem like they wanted to do is waste my time, well you know what they say time is and that is something they didn't get of mine, To bad I've spent plenty of it since and they could have had a large chunk of it.

Good for you Jenn, I had no idea you were such a polititian you have my vote for president!