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...white knighting for CDL so much.  You come off like Liddle Lindsey Graham who constantly white knights for Trump.  It's not a good look.

False claims about Clinton not conceding to Trump and video of concession speeches since Nixon, 1960:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8qAMQkLK0
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http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/presidential-documents-archive-guidebook/presidential-campaigns-debates-and-endorsements-2
YEAR -- Loser -- Date of Concession -- Election Day Date
2020 Donald Trump NONE (see footnote-1) November 3
2016 Hillary Clinton November 9 - 11:40 am ET November 8
2012 Mitt Romney November 7 - 12:55 am ET November 6
2008 John McCain November 4 - 11:18 pm ET November 4
2004 John Kerry November 3 November 2
2000 Albert Gore, Jr. December 13 November 7
1996 Robert Dole November 5 - 11:25 pm ET November 5
1992 George Bush November 3 - 10:20 pm ET November 3
1988 Michael Dukakis November 8 - 11:16 pm ET November 8
1984 Walter F. Mondale November 6 November 6
1980 Jimmy Carter November 4 - 9:54 pm ET November 4
1976 Gerald Ford November 3 - 12:14 pm ET November 2
1972 George McGovern November 7 November 7
1968 Hubert H. Humphrey November 6 November 5
1964 Barry Goldwater November 4 November 3
1960 Richard Nixon November 9 - 3:15 am ET November 8
1956 Adlai Stevenson November 7 - 1:20 am ET November 6
1952 Adlai Stevenson November 5 November 4
1948 Thomas Dewey November 3 November 2
1944 Thomas Dewey November 8 - 3:12 am ET November 7
1940 Wendell Willkie November 6 November 5
1936 Alf Landon November 4 - 1:34 am ET November 3
1932 Herbert Hoover November 8 November 8
1928 Al Smith November 7 November 6
1924 John W. Davis November 5 November 4
Robert La Follette
1920 James M. Cox November 3 November 2
1916 Charles E. Hughes November 22 - 8:25 pm ET November 7
1912 William Howard Taft November 5 - 11:00 pm ET November 5
Theodore Roosevelt November 5 - 11:45 pm ET
1908 William Jennings Bryan November 5 November 3
1904 Alton B. Parker November 8 - 8:30 pm ET November 8
1900 William Jennings Bryan November 8 - 12:00 pm ET November 6
1896 William Jennings Bryan November 5
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Trump STILL claiming: "This is a fraud on the American public." "It was a rigged election. We're still fighting it." "We won by historic numbers." "We will never give up. We will never concede." "We will 'Stop the Steal.'" "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by DIFFERENT RULES."

Al Gore?  Concession speech was six weeks AFTER the election? How about Hillary telling Joe Biden not to concede if he loses, and that she wished she had not conceded.    

His concession came after weeks of recounts and court cases that needed to play out. Once the Supreme Court ruled (in error) Gore conceded.
And we got that supreme Republican mediocrity, Dubya, who dragged us into an illegal and unnecessary war.

pending in 2020 as well.  At the time, there are issues pending litigation.  Why were the Dems in such a hurry to finalize things?  Why wasn't Trump given the same courtesy as a sitting President that Gore got when he was only a sitting Vice President.  Even though Trump eventually lost all of his challenges, Biden had already been installed as President.  If they had let it play out, and then handed over the Presidency to Biden, there wouldn't be so many people still questioning the results to this day.  Was it because the fix was in on the Hunter Biden coverup and it might unravel any minute?  Hopefully, we will know before the 2024 election.

December 13 to November 7 = five weeks, one day. Or were you using "six weeks" metaphorically, like DeSantis and his "slit their throats" boast?

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: How about that . . . .
Al Gore?  Concession speech was six weeks AFTER the election? How about Hillary telling Joe Biden not to concede if he loses, and that she wished she had not conceded.    

was six weeks.  He put a question mark at the end of the sentence.  I'm sure he was VERY confused because you put December before November so all he could do was take a wild guess.

 
Do you really think CDL would post "deliberate misinformation" in violation of TER's rules for this board?  You must not believe that an old dog CAN learn new tricks...like actually telling the truth.

Gore waited until the sixth week to concede. Aren’t you just splitting hairs here?

that the "+1 day" falls into the sixth week even after conceding that it's five weeks and a day.  Gore waited until the sixth week began, so it would be untrue to say it was five weeks, since five weeks had already elapsed.  You'd think a stickler for details like Impposter would know this.  

CDL originally said, above, "How about that  ... [Al Gore's] Concession speech was six weeks AFTER the election?"
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5 weeks + 1 day = 5 weeks + 1/7 week = 5.14 weeks. Rounding to weeks, 5.14 weeks rounds to 5 weeks, not 6 weeks.  
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CDL could have said "36 days" or "5 weeks and 1 day" or rounded off 5.14 weeks to 5 weeks. CDL wanted to make the time between the election and Gore's concession appear longer than it was. By CDL's reasoning, I'm surprised he didn't round off 36 days = 1 month + 6 days to "two months."  
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BOTTOM LINE: Gore accepted the court rulings and "for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession."

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: He doesn't understand . . . .
that the "+1 day" falls into the sixth week even after conceding that it's five weeks and a day.  Gore waited until the sixth week began, so it would be untrue to say it was five weeks, since five weeks had already elapsed.  You'd think a stickler for details like Impposter would know this.  

Imp, I don’t want you to think we here at P&R don’t appreciate the detail and breadth you often bring to a discussion here, but maybe take a step back this time and see how it looks?

BOTTOM LINE: Gore accepted the court rulings and "for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession
If that’s your bottom line, why walk into the weeds over an inconsequential calendar comment? I don’t see it serving any purpose to quibble over whether Gore’s concession took six weeks or occurred in the sixth week. Should we be counting the hours too, and round up your version to 5 weeks + 2 days? Consider whether the concession occurred on a Friday, Monday or weekend? Of course not! That would be silly. At this point you’ve posted twice to discuss 5 weeks + 1 day (the sixth week) does not equal six weeks. You’ld be doing yourself a favor if you just let it go.

...white knighting for CDL so much.  You come off like Liddle Lindsey Graham who constantly white knights for Trump.  It's not a good look.

predicted that he would double down on claiming it's not six weeks even though he stated himself that the sixth week had already begun.  I did not say originally that six weeks had been COMPLETED, I just said he waited six weeks to concede, and it was indeed during the sixth week that he conceded, not during the fifth week or the seventh week.  Will Impposter double down again?  It's anyone's guess.  I don't have a copyright on "I stand corrected", so maybe he should just say that and move on?  

 
And to your point, if we are going to count days, why not hours, minutes and seconds?  That would be soooo like him.   We already know that on the Impposter calendar, December comes before November, so who knows what his clock does.  Lol

Gore pursued legal means to challenge the extremely close Florida vote. I am adding CAPS or *** for emphasis in some passages.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida
2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida.
"The 2000 United States presidential election recount in Florida was a period of vote recounting in Florida that occurred during the weeks after Election Day in the 2000 United States presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore. ..."
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"The Florida election was closely scrutinized after Election Day. Due to the narrow margin of the original vote count, Florida Election Code 102.141 mandated a statewide machine recount, which began the day after the election. ..."
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"Once the closeness of the election in Florida was clear, both the Bush and Gore campaigns organized themselves for the ensuing ***LEGAL process.*** ..."
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"Following the machine recount, the Gore campaign requested a manual recount in four counties. ... The manual recounts were time-consuming, and it soon became clear that some counties would not complete their recounts before the deadline. On November 13 the Gore campaign and Volusia and Palm Beach Counties sued to have the deadlines extended. ... Meanwhile, the Bush campaign worked to stop the recount. On November 11, it joined a group of Florida voters in suing in federal district court for a preemptive injunction to stop all manual recounting of votes in Florida. ..."
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"As the manual recounts continued, the battle to certify the results intensified. ..." [the "battle" was a LEGAL, NON-VIOLENT battle that took place in the courts, not in the streets].  
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"As the manual recounts progressed, most of Florida's counties were considering overseas absentee ballots. ... The next day, Gore sued under Florida's statutory construct of the "contest phase". ... On December 8, the Florida justices, by a 4–3 vote, rejected the selective use of manual recounts in just four counties and ordered immediate manual recounts of all ballots in the state where no vote for president had been machine-recorded, also known as undervotes. ..."
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"The U.S. Supreme Court convened on December 1 to consider Bush's appeal. On December 4, the Court ordered the Florida Supreme Court to clarify its ruling that had extended the certification date. On December 9, the Court suspended the manual recount, in progress for only several hours, on the grounds that irreparable harm could befall Bush, according to a concurring opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia."
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"On December 12, the same day as the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, the Florida House approved awarding the state's electoral votes to Bush, but the matter was moot after the Court's ruling. Some have argued that awarding the electors in this manner would be illegal. ..."
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"On December 13, Gore conceded the election to Bush in a nationally televised address."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore#Recount
"... The Florida recount was stopped a few weeks later by the U.S. Supreme Court. In the ruling, Bush v. Gore, the Justices held that the Florida recount was unconstitutional and that no constitutionally valid recount could be completed by the December 12 deadline, effectively ending the recounts. ... On December 13, 2000, Gore conceded the election. Gore strongly disagreed with the Court's decision, but in his concession speech stated that, "for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession."
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Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: How about that . . . .
Al Gore?  Concession speech was six weeks AFTER the election? How about Hillary telling Joe Biden not to concede if he loses, and that she wished she had not conceded.    
http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/butterfly-did-it-aberrant-vote-buchanan-palm-beach-county-florida
The Butterfly Did It: The Aberrant Vote for Buchanan in Palm Beach County, Florida
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The Controversial Butterfly Ballot Used in Palm Beach:

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