You have to hand it to the anti-white male crowd. They have the power of the media and they're not afraid to use it. It is almost impossible to imagine a more obvious insult to American white men then the display that aired before last Monday Night's football game.

As a promotion for ABC's newest sleazy program "Desperate Housewives," a short pre-recorded segment preceded the game. The intro showed an actress from the series, white, blond, Nicollette Sheridan wearing only a towel and provocatively asking a black Philadelphia Eagles receiver, Terrell Owens, to skip the game for her as the two stood alone in a locker room. He agrees (surprise!). She then drops the towel and jumps into Owens' arms.

Monday Night Football is the most popular network program during weeknights for white men. So all those white men had the distinct displeasure of seeing an attractive white female throw herself at a black athlete. As an additional bonus this display was done when their children were watching too. Imagine the confusing messages sent to children that were watching, all of them objectionable. A) Sex with a stranger. B) Sex in a public place. C) Interracial sex.

It is no secret that men of one race are uncomfortable, often to the point of violence, at seeing women of their own race, (especially attractive ones) as objects of sexual desire for males of another race. Recently a group of black athletes from Oregon State University severely beat a white man who was dancing with his wife (a black woman) at a local dance club. This type of violence occurs often and by males of all races.

There are probably few feelings experienced by men as natural as the desire to protect females of their own family/race/tribe. It is normal. For all of human existence survival of a group or tribe was dependent on healthy females raising their genetic offspring. The worst possible thing that could happen to a group was to have a male from another group steal or breed with their women. The last 50 or so years have seen a complete breakdown of this basic evolutionary survival ethic.

Not so long ago this type of thing was illegal. Today white men are not only supposed to turn a blind eye to this type of activity they are apparently supposed to cheer it on! It just seems so distasteful; a beautiful white woman that possesses all of the classic virtues of white attractiveness coming on to someone that looks like, well, basically a completely different type of human.

I mean you cannot be blind to the fact that black men like Terrell Owens posses an appearance that is radically different from that of a typical white person. The facial structure, the hair, nearly everything about him is so different. If you changed the color of his skin to white and left everything the same you would have a profoundly unattractive white man by anyone's standards. Are we to accept because his skin is brown that he suddenly becomes more handsome? How could that be?

I would suspect that about 80% of men feel uncomfortable at the sight of mixed race couples, about the same percent that would feel uncomfortable at the sight of homosexual couples. And for the same reason. It is unnatural and wrong.

In the US we have evolved a society of freedoms such that unpopular or even perverted behavior, if committed by adults in private, is allowed. However that same behavior in public is rightfully prohibited. So one should be able to condemn such ugly public displays, if not outlaw them, but that outlet is not allowed. Any derogatory comment to an interracial couple in public will subject one to possible "hate crime" charges. So even the possibility of using public scorn to discourage wrongful behavior is no longer allowed.

Interestingly enough the only high profile football personality to address the racial implications of this issue was Tony Dungy, the black head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Dungy found it racially offensive. "To me that's the first thing I thought of as an African-American, I think it's stereotypical in looking at the players, and on the heels of the Kobe Bryant incident I think it's very insensitive."

Kobe Bryant? Actually that white woman got off light, she was just raped. What about O.J.'s wife, Nicole Simpson? What about any of the other thousands of white woman that are raped and/or killed by black men and black athletes annually? Not to mention the many thousands whose lives are ruined by relationships with black men in the same way black women's lives are ruined. Fatherless children, sexual and physical abuse, sexually transmitted diseases. There are many reasons why it is not a good idea to jump naked into a Terrell Owens arms.

A mini-uproar has ensued over the incident. The NFL has condemned the skit. Many people have complained about the sexual content being inappropriate (but not the racial content). Some other fans have chimed in to suggest the NFL is being hypocritical in that the NFL promotes sexual activity with scantily dressed cheerleaders and frequent commercials for "erectile disfunction" medication.

However there is a significant difference in just admiring a woman and in having sex with her. Ask your wife or girlfriend if she thinks there is any difference in you looking at a pretty woman or having sex with her. Most women can explain the difference to their men in fairly clear terms. Also note that Cialis, Levitra, and Viagra commercials always feature use of the drug in the context of a committed relationship. It is also doubtful that commercials of a medical nature will have much of an effect on children while a dramatic scene in a locker room will.

If you want to irritate white men, Terrel Owens is a perfect figure to show defiling a white woman. He is the worst type of black superstar on the market today. Owens is a trash talking malcontent, a malignancy on any team he plays for. He cries and whines. It is all about him and his personal goals, never the team. He has been involved in a running feud with an ex-teammate, QB Jeff Garcia. Owens felt he didn't get enough passes thrown his way when they played together, even though he put up excellent numbers each year. He has resorted to the childish tactic of accusing Garcia of being a homosexual even though it appears obvious he is not. Garcia it seems is getting better white women then Owens, as he had a supermodel and a beauty queen fight over him at a nightclub recently.

"Desperate Housewives" is a new ABC series that has raised the sleaze factor another notch. The major networks, realizing they are losing audience to cable, are trying to challenge cable shows like "Sex in the City," an unrealistic look at the sexual exploits of several women whose behavior can politely be called slutty. Women that have had as much promiscuous sex as the women on "Sex in the City" or "Desperate Housewives" should be avoided. That much intimate contact with similarly loose men can only lead to a host of diseases.

You might also figure that black men, especially the young urban males that make up the bulk of professional football and basketball players, should instead get a message of showing a little self control. After all, a demographic that has record levels of syphilis and AIDS should perhaps be a little careful about naked women throwing themselves at them. Perhaps HIV+ Magic Johnson should have been cast in this little advertisement, it would have sent a much better message to the Terrell Owens and Nicollette Sheridans of the world.

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Do you have any reasons to feel that the percent is that high?  My experience in my own life and with the people on this board is that your estimates are very off track.

Harry

... I agree that wanting to protect women is a natural feeling.

I personally can extend my wish to protect women to women that are not in my own family/race/tribe.  I was not raised to be raiding other tribes and stealing their women.

I see a difference between protecting a woman and recognizing a woman gets to make her own choice about who she is involved with.   I can't make her decisions about the people she chooses to be with.

What do you think about these ideas?

Harry

goofy conspiracy theories.  I do not believe the world is run by the Bilderbergers.  I think the Freemasons are just a bunch of people in a group.  I think the Illuminati is a figment of the imagination of people with too much fucking time on thier hands.  You haven't posted about the above yet, but I can see it coming.  Oh, yea, I forgot about the relocation camps that the U.N. is building across the country when we are all marked with the sign of the beast.  Please stop.

The last line of the post: "Article continues at link below "

If you clicked on the link, you would have realized that he copied the text of the article. Whether this represents funtime's personal views or not I cannot say, however, the POST was merely a COPY of someone else's writing.

As that sage of all times, Homer J. Simpson often says "DOH!"

I think we all saw that-TYVM

But posting other people's neofascist rants is not too far from writing them yourself if you clearly post them as gospel, not something to be derided.

I read the post, the article and looked at the source.

FT96 is channelling Byron De la Beckwith or somesuch.  Our own Father Coughlin.

I do hope his daughter falls for a "Mud Race" fellow and bears him a flock of little cute mestizo kiddies!  If my mom can deal with 4 mixed GKs, he can too.  She grew up when the Empire was real, and Pukkah Sahibs DID NOT go native!

Funtime pulling the article from somewhere is a mask.  The feeling expressed in the article are his own, even if he does not have the guts to write them and take credit for them.  Like Funtime, you must have your head up your ass to not see clearly what is happening with that post.
    I have a basic question for you to answer.  How many of us pull vile articles from sites and bring them to a totally unrelated site for public view?  I would say the answer is very few of us, if any but one.

...and your racist view of the world will be completely overcome by your libido (true heart) when you see the product of a native american mother, european grandmother and japanese grandfather produce the most compelling and gorgeous person you've ever seen.  I'll leave out that they're more intelligent than you as that's stating the obvious.

and your racist view of the world will be completely overcome by your libido (true heart) when you see the product of a native american mother, european grandmother and japanese grandfather produce the most compelling and gorgeous person you've ever seen.  I'll leave out that they're more intelligent than you as that's stating the obvious.


And what, disolve all the races in to one. How will we be "diverse" then? We will lose our uniqueness...We strive to preserve the existence of plant species and spotted owls, but don't blink an eye about preserving each races unique look. I'm all for some mixed race people, i'm just don't believe every human must be multi-racial.
Why is my thinking so bad??

I have a basic question for you to answer.  How many of us pull vile articles from sites and bring them to a totally unrelated site for public view?  I would say the answer is very few of us, if any but one.


Many of us. the ongoing democrat\republican infighting brings many vile posts...
This is a sex related site, my topic deals with sex, yeah, looks like it's related.

I see a difference between protecting a woman and recognizing a woman gets to make her own choice about who she is involved with.   I can't make her decisions about the people she chooses to be with.


Harry, I will put it this way, yo can give a person MOST of the information on something, yet not all, and the person will make what they believe is an educated decision.

Lets refer to black men as a caramel apple. White women as the person who will consume this caramel apple. "someone" will represent the Jewish run education system, or the jewish run entertainment industry. Take your pick.

Someone makes a caramel apple and presents to a hungry and naive person. The presenter states how sweet and delicious this caramel apple is. It's got chewwy caramel, yumm, it's got a crunchy apple interior, yumm,,,
it's loaded with apple juice. It will make you stronger if you eat it, ect,,, yumm yumm yumm!!

What they didn't tell this person is that they also injected the caramel apple with an extremely deadly and undectable poison.

I feel the hungry and naive White Women will gobble up the Caramel Apple based on the information she has received. She has been programmed to believe this caramel apple is good for her, the poison content hasn't been pointed out to her, so she feels she's making a wise decision to consume this apple. It will lead her to her death.

This is what is happening today. Jewish programming is leading White Women to believe that it is advantagious to be with black men. There "chewy, crunchy ect"...
There not being told about the poison the black man contains; Highest STD rate among all men. Most violent of all men, and will point that violence at the White Women (highest rate of recrded domestic violence is black men on white women). Her offspring with a Black Man will be less intelligent than if she had mated with a white.

White women are making the choice to go black becuase they are pushed that direction, while concurrently and delibertely having the truth withheld from them...

Now do you really feel a woman is "making her own choice", or is the choice being molded for her??

... I guess if you believe people can be manipulated like that, this would be a very legitimate issue to you.   Why are you, men in general, or some organization or political party more immune to this manipulation than women?  While you agree that women should be able to make their own choices at the top of your reply, how would you change things to stop the manipulation?  

I'm pretty sure women have access to you and your ideas.  Many women have read or seen things that advocate them.  Why do you think that some women who are exposed to your ideas don't come around to your point of view?  

"I'm pretty sure women have access to you and your ideas.  Many women have read or seen things that advocate them.  Why do you think that some women who are exposed to your ideas don't come around to your point of view?"


Most women do. My girlfiend has, my mom has, my best friend at work's wife does, and my best buddies girlfriend does.  
If you present your arguement with facts, mostpeople listen. Some, do take longer to come around then others.
My buddies girl, boy she hardly let me speak. She's extremely to the left in her views. Apperently the left is very aware of the human rights violations that Israel is a part of.

Some people in general, man or woman, freak out and get extremely closed minded. They lack the ability to view things with an open mind.

Even when you directly expose a known fact as a lie. For istance; "all people are equal, or the only difference between the races is skin color". Well, if we are all the same, why is it when a black person needs a bone marrow transplant, the highest rate of sucess comes when the donor is of the same race as the recipient? In many cases, the donor Must be of the same race as for sucess to occur. You could also point to brain size differences between the races. Also, you could point out that certain races are more suceptable to diseases or body ailments than others.

"Why are you, men in general, or some organization or political party more immune to this manipulation than women?"

Harry, I don't believe men are immune, White Women are the targets of the manipulation, so they stray in greater numbers.

"I guess if you believe people can be manipulated like that, this would be a very legitimate issue to you.  "

Yes I firmly believe humans can be manipulated. Television is known for being a tool to program the viewer. Subliminal imaging, pushing of trends ect...

... Does "not equal" mean the same thing as "different" to you?  I think people are different, but I have real problems with extending that to saying that some people are superior to others.   I think from what you wrote before that you mean different.  Is this correct?

If there is a push by forces in society to get white women to go with men of other races, what do you conclude should be done?   Why should you, or other white men get a break by having some social restrictions on that happening?  Sounds like some sort of racial socialism to me.  If black men are so much better than white men, then women are being responsible (in an evolutionary sense) by not being with white guys.  Maybe then, white men need to learn to compete better in this area.  If they can't, then the white race (from us "white guys" point of view) will disappear and the human race will be better off.  

Competition - it's a beautiful and aweful taskmaster.  

Harry

"I think people are different, but I have real problems with extending that to saying that some people are superior to others.   I think from what you wrote before that you mean different.  Is this correct?"

Different is different, not necissarily superior. My bone marrow example for instance, simular genetics is needed for the operation to be a sucess.
Deep down I do believe one race is inferior to the other two. There are many studies to support this belief. That said, I don't use inferior\superior to make my genetic differences arguement...Medical examples where simular genetics are needed makes the arguement for me...

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If there is a push by forces in society to get white women to go with men of other races, what do you conclude should be done? "

It should either cease, or push women of all races to be with others. For example; augment commercials or shows that push  White women dating Black Men with Jewish Women dating Black Men. After all it is the Jew who controls the entertainment industry, Why exclude your wonderful Jewish women from this life changing experience while only including my wonderful White Women??

"Why should you, or other white men get a break by having some social restrictions on that happening?  Sounds like some sort of racial socialism to me."

Receiving a break??Are you loaded?? Think for a second. Are the Jewish social engineers pushing females of all races to mix with the black, or just the white female??
I could see if there where constant commercials and shows showing Asain Women with Mexican Men. Jewish Women with Black Men ect, while I am bitching for ONLY the White on Black commercials to be omitted, that would be recieving a break... However, when the only race mixing commercials feature White Women with Black men, White MEn are receiving anything but a break...I can't believe I even have to explain this...Face it Harry, certain jews, maybe all jews, hate the White Race. They will do ANYTHING to dissolve it. That is why they push so hard for White Women to leave their men.

A jewish quotes for you to comment on;

We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.
-
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957

Another: "The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists." Jewish professor Noel Ignatiev

I am seeing your people saying this. If you were to argue that those sayings are fake, (i believe they are real) how do you explain the jewish entertainment industry pushing the White Women into the Black Mans arms???

"If black men are so much better than white men, then women are being responsible (in an evolutionary sense) by not being with white guys.  Maybe then, white men need to learn to compete better in this area.  If they can't, then the white race (from us "white guys" point of view) will disappear and the human race will be better off. "

WTF are you talking about?? There is no way in hell the Black Man is better than the White Man. Period...When my people sailed to the shores of Africa, the Black Man hadn't even invented the Wheel. Whether for use in grinding grain, or for transportation. They hadn't even figured out irrigation, domesticated animals ect.
Just about every invention in the 20th century was invented by a white man, not a negro...
Jewish controlled education system lies to their students when they falsely build up the black as being equal to whites or asians, it's a lie, period. They lie to support their push of the White Women away from the White Man.

What the white man need to do to compete better is to obtain their own media source to counter the jewish controlled American media. This way we can counter the jewish propaganda machine.


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If black men are so much better than white men, then women are being responsible (in an evolutionary sense) by not being with white guys."

I needed to touch this assinine comment again. White Women with black men are anything but responsible in an evolutionary sense. The white womens child with a black will be dumber without a doubt, then her child with a white father. Whites with blacks, man or women is a regressing evolutionary process. If we could teach our women this, and this alone, without the jewish social engineers screaming racism, our white women would never stray.

...  As long as relationships aren't forced on people, then people seem to have the inherent right to choose the people they want to have relationships with.   I don't agree that any difference between races transfers into any valid conclusion about superiority.   Further, I'm pretty sure that the whole idea of race is pretty hard to define in a precise and useful way.

Any solution to this problem you say exists seems to involve giving white men some sort of "protected status".  I don't think we need it.  Women are smart enough to listen to the "media", look at what is happening in the world, and come to their own conclusions.  It's a fair playing field.

FT, I haven't heard people talk about your ideas for almost 30 years.  Thanks for the chance to chat about this.  

Harry.

"Women are smart enough to listen to the "media", look at what is happening in the world, and come to their own conclusions.  It's a fair playing field."

I don't agree with this. Women are attracted to power, to people they perceive as important, and masculinity. This overides common sense.
MTV makes those black rappers 'appear' to be important and powerful. If it wasn't for the entertainment industry glorifying this crap as quality music, many would be just another failure in life.
I believe most women would leap at the chance to be a rich trophy wife for any man of any race. The need for 'security' and 'stability' overides any form of common sense.


"Further, I'm pretty sure that the whole idea of race is pretty hard to define in a precise and useful way."

Well we do know that there are very real differences between the races. Blacks produce more hormones than any other race. They produce more testosterone then males of other races.

Blacks lean towards 'R strategies', while whites and asians lean towards more 'k strategies'. I would say some races evolved more than other races, as a result; encephalization occurs. Basically Whites and Asians expended their respective bio-energy on encephalization as response to their environment.

Encephalization is an increase in brain size during the evolution of a species, with no concomitant increase in body-size. This process explains why asians and whites have larger brains than blacks. Our brains grew larger due to the harsher enviroments in the cold north.
Blacks on the other hand, stayed in the bountiful and nurturing Africa, where food was abundant, the weather comforting, and as a result never had to use their brains for such things as planning for tommorow, or ensuring there would be food and shelter over the long hard winter.
Not having these worries their bio-energy focuses on developing
secondary characteristics. More muscle mass, higher intercourse frequencies, earlier age of intercourse and preganancy. If a woman wants strong and low intelligence, she should date a black.
If she wants less strength and more smarts, she should intermarry with whites or asians.

In conclusion, i believe we are simular, yet VERY different...


"FT, I haven't heard people talk about your ideas for almost 30 years.  Thanks for the chance to chat about this."

I hope you weren't being sarcastic.

Your welcome Harry. I enjoy debating and it was a pleasure doing it with you. Thanks for not being rude and crude and for taking the time to respond back.
Have a good day.
Funtime69...

I don't like talking to blank stone walls!

In my opinion, his nutty comments should not go unchallenged.  But his intellectual capacity seems to be severely limited, and having a reasonable conversation with him is impossible.  So I'd rather call him out on his wild and bigoted assertions and watch him twist in the wind.  He seems to be a recipient of all the hate mail, etc. directed toward Jews, Blacks, Mexicans and other immigrants, and would love to have shaken Hitler's hand had he had the chance.  That makes him the enemy of ALL Americans, and (with proper recognition to its originator Marovingian) the term SCUMTIME69 is definitely descriptive.  Hell, he doesn't even understand that Jews are a RELIGIOUS group - he thinks they are a RACE of people.  In my view, he simply cannot sink lower than he is already.

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I don't have to be rude and crude - all I have to do is be logical and question all your wildass assertions, and your bigotry and inaneness becomes very noticeable.  YOU'RE SO EASY!!!!

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