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Ahmadinejad and deliver him to the International Criminal Court.

What an interesting "proposal" floated, suppossedly unbiddened by Rafi Eitan, Pensioners' Affairs Minister for the Israeli gov't, in a recent interview with Der Spiegel.

I'm not really sure that they actually could do that, as I doubt sincerly that Israel is or ever will be a signatory to the treaty setting up the ICC, and as such would have little grounds for any complaint or action under it's provisions.  But no matter, this is Israel we're talking about, so any flight of fancy one might imagine will no doubt be defended, if not strenuosly advocated by the usual suspects.  If they can tear themselves away from the fleshpots of Las Vegas that is.  I can't imagine [well, actually I can] the logical and factual pretzels which would have to be twisted to make this act, if it ever came to pass, pass muster with even the most permissive observers of Israeli behavior, but I almost wish that this inded would come to pass, just to enjoy the spectacle.  I'd also enjoy the 180 degree reversal if this established a precedent and someone like Bibi or Shamir was ever abducted by the Syrians and turned over to the ICJ.  That would no doubt be the gravest violation of int'l law and human rights since, since... the revealtion that Ehud Olmert has a passing interest in swag and boodle?  Rafi's very own words, "...Criminals have to answer for their crimes before a court of law"  could very well be traken seriously by some hardcore bad guys whose worldview sees the Israelis as crimainal.


This political circus would be beyond parady and satire, as it would be parody and satire itself.

Would it not be a hoot if Ahmadinejad requested that his defense be conducted by Alan Dershowitz?

One thing we CAN be sure of : the 95 or so US Senators who will automatically sign onto a declaration supporting Israel's actions, and the inevitable US veto of the inevitable UN Security Council resolution condemning such an action.  No doubt no one would be a spoilsport and  mention that the US itself refuses to sign onto the treaty establishing the ICC, but what's a little hipocracy and double-standardizing between friends when it benefits a grear and deserving  friend such as Israel?

Yep, with thinking like this, it's no wonder that 'ole Rafi heen pensioned off to the Pensioners' Affairs Ministry.

And given Rafi's heavy role in the Pollard spy ring, I wonder if he ever got kidnaped and brought to US jurisdiction to answer for that, what the reaction would be.  Actually, I don't wonder at all.

www.IsraelNationalNews.com of Sept 11, 2008.



Israel Could Kidnap Ahmadinejad

by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz


Pensioners Affairs Minister Rafi Eitan, who commanded the 1960 Mossad operation to capture fugitive Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Argentina, says the kidnapping of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a distinct possibility.

In an interview with Christoph Schult of this week's edition of the respected German magazine Der Spiegel, the former Israeli intelligence agent said that while there are no more covert Israeli missions targeting old Nazis, "that's not to say that such operations are completely a thing of the past."


Schult: "What do you mean by that?"


Eitan: "It could very well be that a leader such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suddenly finds himself before the International Criminal Court in The Hague."


Schult: "Do you mean that seriously?"


Eitan: "Absolutely. Those who spread poison and want to eradicate another people [have] to expect such consequences."


Eitan's statement is all the more provocative as it was offered without prodding at the end of an interview focusing on the Minister's recent revelation that his team in Argentina in 1960 decided against abducting notorious Auschwitz sadist, Dr. Josef Mengele, the "Angel of Death". His agents discovered that Mengele was also in Beunos Aires after they had already apprehended Eichmann and were preparing to bundle him off to Israel for trial.


Eichmann was subsequently tried and sentenced to death by an Israeli court for crimes against humanity, crimes against the Jewish people and membership in an outlawed organization. He was executed in May 1962 and his ashes were scattered in the international waters of the Mediterranean Sea.


'It Wasn't About Revenge'

Israel had Mengele in its sites one more time before the man's death from a stroke in 1979, according to Eitan, but the Mossad determined that capturing him was not a possibility at the time. It was further decided not to assassinate him, even though it would have been feasible, Eitan said, adding, "It wasn't about revenge."

When asked why he chose not to nab Mengele after the capture of Eichmann, Eitan replied, "There were just 11 of us and we had our hands full dealing with Eichmann." Then-Mossad chief Isser Harel wanted Mengele, too, Eitan added. "I refused because I didn't want to endanger the success of the Eichmann operation."

The Mossad commander said that his team wanted to return to Buenos Aires after bringing Eichmann to Jerusalem in order to capture Mengele, as well. "But due to a leak, Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion had to make an official announcement about our success. When our agents returned to Argentina, Mengele had moved out of his apartment and gone underground," Eitan revealed.

The Der Spiegel interview also shed some light on the policy decision that ended with the apprehending of Adolf Eichmann. "In 1958, we resolved to capture a former Nazi and bring him to justice in Israel," Eitan explained. "Possible targets included Mengele, Eichmann, the former head of the Gestapo Heinrich Muller, and Hitler's right-hand man Martin Bormann. The first one we could find was Eichmann, so we concentrated on him."

When the interviewer noted that Israel has in fact carried out assassinations of fugitive Nazis, Eitan said, "There were such operations, but I was against them. Criminals have to answer for their crimes before a court of law."

Following his service in the Mossad, Rafi Eitan served as an advisor on terrorism to Prime Minister Menachem Begin and later headed the now-defunct Bureau of Scientific Relations, an intelligence agency focused on obtaining secret technologies. Eitan resigned his post following the capture of Jonathan Pollard, a former US Navy Intelligence Research Specialist who has been behind bars in the United States since 1986 for passing classified information to Israel.

DK, but for many years it was associated with the conservative Christian/Catholic political parties in the Federal Republic.  Don't know if that's still the case.

It is indeed hogwash - a cute cute mini-move in the war of nerves

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