...willy the idiot doesn't know there were TWO immigration bills. The FIRST bill was tied to Ukraine funding. However, there was a SECOND stand-alone immigration bill. Even though Trump wasn't in office, Trump bullied Republican senators to vote against cloture so there would not be a vote on the bill because Trump was hoping he would win the election and then pass the bill under his watch. willy is a fucking moron.
If you voted Republican [2024], you also de facto voted for what's in the Project 2025 manifesto. Keep that in mind when these new laws hit.
And if you continue to post partisan answers to General Forum topics, don’t be surprised if the TER Admins banish this thread to the Politics and Religion Forum.
Is almost as funny as when you dubbed yourself "among the most reasonable and intelligent" posters on that board.
OK, I know you were joking about P&R. But we all know you were NOT joking when you called. yourself "reasonable and intelligent." LOL.
*rubs ChicKie on his tummy*
they want in a candidate. When you vote, you are saying I support more of this person's objectives than the other candidates, but it doesn't mean you support ALL of them. You have to be able to live with a few things that you do not support in order to the other things you feel strongly about.
If you voted Democratic (2024), you de facto also voted for another 12,000,000 illegals entering the country in the next four years without vetting; you also voted for more inflation; you also voted for more rape and murder of our women by criminal illegals allowed into our country; you also voted for higher taxes; and you also voted for government to weaponize the justice department to go after political opponents. Now, I doubt that you support all of these things, but by your own faulty logic, this is what is imputed to you from your vote for Harris. Keep in mind the bullet you dodged by Trump's victory.
Good point. However one voted, that doesn’t mean the voter endorsed every position the candidate held.
If you voted Democratic (2024), you de facto also voted for another 12,000,000 illegals entering the country in the next four years without vetting;
You might not know this. But this site has a political forum for your wacky ass political views.
Cheers
I would ask you in the future to drink more responsibly before posting on this board. No one that is completely sober would believe any of this.
Cuz everything he wrote is demonstrably true, whether you like it or not.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
You might find some of the analysis from Cato of interest in that they largely support most of the claims the other poster made. regarding tariffs and deportations.
I find it interesting that Republicans have a long history of largely being against trade as they seem to like tariffs -- and Trump seems to be on the same page as Hoover was. Things didn't end well with that.
You have been the victim of some serious misinformation. . . . . .
**If Trump is the one who "killed the border bill," why did the Dems not vote for it anyway and pass it? Dems had control of the White House, the Senate and the House. It doesn't matter what Trump said, if anything, to the Republicans. If it was a quality bill, the Dems could have told Trump to fuck off and passed it anyway. Why didn't they? This is why you look silly parroting Dem talking points from the MSM.
**95% of the "undocumented workers" are NOT working, they are living off the freebies they are getting from the Biden Administration and Blue State governments, all of which comes from taxes paid by Americans who ARE working. Deport them and there will be no food shortages. Surpluses will help bring prices down.
**The violent crime rate being lower has already been proven to be FBI disinformation. You should read more.
**Those tariffs will likely never be imposed. Their mere threat is being used as leverage against countries to do what Trump wants. For Mexico and Canada, it's simple . . . ."Close the border on their side, and take back illegals who crossed in the US from their countries." If not, punitive tariffs will be imposed. For Americans, would you rather pay a little more for what you buy, or keep supporting illegals with your tax dollars, which Kamala promised would go higher under her administration?
**Matt Gaetz is no longer the nominee. The potential of what you claim is no longer there.
So, there you have it, point by point. Splain your way out of the silliness you posted. Do you know ANYTHING about this stuff other than the talking point lies of the media?
You got a few things blatantly wrong.
First of all, when the Dems controlled the White House, the Senate and the House there was no border bill to kill. When the bill was put together by a group led by Republican Sen. Lankford, the Dems no longer controlled the House. They needed Republican votes at that point. So when Trump told them to kill the bill, that was the end of it. You could look it up. Why do I suspect you won't?
Where do you get your supposed fact that "95% of the 'undocumented workers' are NOT working?" Or is this another one you've pulled out of your ass? And they are mostly NOT "living off the freebies." In fact they are paying taxes for services they mostly don't even receive. Last, on what do you base your assertion that "Surpluses will help bring prices down?" No one believes this.
As for the tariffs, you could turn out to be right. But in fact NO ONE knows how this saber-rattling will turn out. That's the problem with bluster. It often turns out your bluff gets called. Trade wars can destroy economies, which is exactly what's happened historically.
You got a few things blatantly wrong.
First of all, when the Dems controlled the White House, the Senate and the House there was no border bill to kill. When the bill was put together by a group led by Republican Sen. Lankford, the Dems no longer controlled the House. They needed Republican votes at that point. So when Trump told them to kill the bill, that was the end of it. You could look it up. Why do I suspect you won't?
Where do you get your supposed fact that "95% of the 'undocumented workers' are NOT working?" Or is this another one you've pulled out of your ass? And they are mostly NOT "living off the freebies." In fact they are paying taxes for services they mostly don't even receive. Last, on what do you base your assertion that "Surpluses will help bring prices down?" No one believes this.
As for the tariffs, you could turn out to be right. But in fact NO ONE knows how this saber-rattling will turn out. That's the problem with bluster. It often turns out your bluff gets called. Trade wars can destroy economies, which is exactly what's happened historically.
And it was a bad bill despite your trumpeting that it was bipartisan and waaaaaaaaaa 😢😭😢😭😢😭😢
Thank god it didn’t pass.
PS Hey icky D? T R U M P won. Your albatross lost.
PPS Hey Icky D? How did the albatross get so many votes when she had an approval rating south of Biden till her coronation as the candidate?
Here's a clip from FOX NEWS in which Sen. Lankford agrees with the host that Trump killed the bill.
But you'll continue to lie because that's what you do.
Semper Lie.
Here's a clip from FOX NEWS in which Sen. Lankford agrees with the host that Trump killed the bill.
But you'll continue to lie because that's what you do.
Semper Lie.
Jessssus Icky D... Oh wait you actually believed the Blue Goooo on this didn't you? Ohhhh ICKY D... your TDS is showing.
He's one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Face it, your sad excuse for a brain has been so poisoned by Red Goo that it has festered away.
You are an anencephalic. Go look it up.
the flow of illegals. 5000 illegals a day would have been allowed to walk across the border under this bill. By the end of four years, that's ANOTHER 7,300,000 illegals mooching off of the taxpayers. Langford was for it because he thought it was better than NO bill at all, which is super-simplistic, but that is like a doctor telling you he is only going to cut off your arm at the elbow instead of at the shoulder and then tell you it MIGHT make golf a little more challenging.
The number working is from simple math. Only about 5 percent of illegals are reportedly having taxes deducted from their wages and paid to the government by employers. Granted, there COULD be more working, but they are not contributing taxes, which, by default, means they are a drain on the taxes paid by Americans who are paying for their support and the government benefits they are reaping. In any other situation, this is commonly called a 'money-pit."
When there are surpluses because you have removed the demand created by 10,000,000+ illegal,non-contributing consumers, prices have nowhere to go but down. More importantly, when the US becomes energy-independent again, lower gasoline prices will lower the production costs throughout the supply chain from growers/manufacturers and their transportation costs to get their products to market, allowing retain prices to soften over the all-time highs we have had under Biden/Harris.
The tariff threats are ALREADY working. Mexico's prez has already dispatched troops to their SOUTHERN border to stop the flow of illegals at the source point where they enter Mexico before crossing into the US. Trudeau is going to Mar-a-Lago to give Trump a blowjob and pledge eternal cooperation with border control. Because many countries will have runaway inflation if they lose the US as a trading partner, the tariffs are actually the best weapon in the Trump arsenal to improve the lives of Americans.
...why did the Dems not vote for it anyway and pass it? Dems had control of the White House, the Senate and the House. It doesn't matter what Trump said, if anything, to the Republicans. If it was a quality bill, the Dems could have told Trump to fuck off and passed it anyway. Why didn't they? This is why you look silly parroting Dem talking points from the MSM."
Why didn't they? Because of cloture. No, CDL, cloture is not what you wear. Cloture is what Trump told Republican senators to vote against so the bill could not come up for a vote.
So, there you have it. 'Splain your way out of the silliness you posted. Do you know ANYTHING about this stuff other than the talking point lies of the right wing media?
http://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text
IT WAS A BULLSHIT BILL THAT ALLOWED 5000 ILLEGALS INTO THE COUNTRY EVERY DAY!!!
Thank G O D it was defeated.
Why were you for that idiocy anyway?
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