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Why Jews should support W
HootOwl 49 Reviews 9815 reads
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I present this as an interesting read.  

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This article was published in The Jewish World Review on    9/10/2004

Why Jews should support W

If it's an election year, it must be time for my quadrennial column urging Jews to vote Republican. Though I feel a bit like Sisyphus, I'll try not to be a sourpuss. Here are some of the questions I usually get on this subject:

"Everyone knows that Republicans tend to be rich, snobbish and anti-Semitic."

This may have been true 25 or 35 years ago, but no part of that cliche is true today. In the first place, as Karl Zinsmeister has recently noted in The Wall Street Journal, most rich people are now Democrats, not Republicans. (Republicans tend to be the party of the middle class; Democrats the party of the rich and the poor.) As to snobbery, it's been out of fashion for 50 years. Reverse snobbery tends to be more of a problem. But anti-Semitism has clearly migrated from right to left during the past several decades. Think of Cynthia McKinney, former congresswoman from Georgia who slurred Jews but nonetheless was supported in her 2002 bid for re-election by Democratic Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi. Or consider that hero of the Democratic Party Al Sharpton, who rose to fame, in part, on the strength of riot-mongering aimed at whites and Jews. It is simply impossible to imagine someone like Sharpton being welcomed and celebrated at the Republican National Convention. Further, a recent poll by the Institute for Jewish and Community Research in San Francisco found that more Democrats than Republicans hold anti-Semitic views. Only 12 percent of Republicans agreed that "Jews care only about themselves," while 20 percent of Democrats held that view.

"Republicans support Israel only because they think it portends the Second Coming of Jesus"

I've always had trouble understanding this objection. I don't think it's true, but even if it were, what's the problem? In fact, Republicans support Israel for many reasons. They tend to support all democracies fighting off non-democratic enemies (Taiwan and South Korea, to name two others). They sympathize with Israel's predicament as a tiny outpost of enlightenment and liberty amid a raging sea of fanaticism and backwardness. They appreciate Israel's loyalty to the United States. Democrats, by contrast, tend to see Israel as the oppressor of the Palestinians -- "a people of color," in the argot of the left -- and therefore as unworthy of support. It is true that some Protestant Republicans have religious reasons for supporting Israel. They read the Bible literally and believe that the land was given to the Jews by God. Some (though I've never heard this said by any Christian, only by Jews) may further believe that Jewish sovereignty in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming. Why is that troubling? It ought to be comforting to Jews. After all, would you prefer to have someone on your side because they like you (which can change) or because they believe it is part of G-d's plan for the world to have a Jewish homeland? As for the end times, maybe they're right, and maybe they're wrong. We can leave that part to G-d. For now, Jews should know who their friends are. There was very little talk of Israel at the Democratic National Convention this year, probably because the delegates are not fond of Israel. The delegates are always to the left of the party regulars, and wherever you find leftists you find hatred for Israel. From college campuses, to some elements in the press, to the anti-globalization movement, to candidate Howard Dean calling Hamas members "soldiers," left-wingers have little love for the Jewish state. In 2002, when Israel was enduring almost daily suicide attacks on its civilians, it was Majority Leader Tom DeLay who shepherded through a strong congressional resolution expressing solidarity with the people of Israel. On another occasion, when Sen. Mitch McConnell attempted to brand the PLO a terrorist organization, then-Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle blocked it as "counterproductive." At the Republican Convention, by contrast, Israel was invoked often and affectionately, and each mention was met with rousing ovations. Finally, Israel has had no better friend in the White House than George W. Bush. It would be a well-deserved expression of appreciation if Jewish votes provided the margin of victory for this best of all friends to Israel.

llcar 9 Reviews 10128 reads
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``wherever you find leftists you find hatred for Israel''

You will get along well with Funtime69.

Californian 8043 reads
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Let's ensure we have injected all the facts into this discussion:

Here are the remarks made by Billy Graham in conversations with Nixon. Both Stalwart Republicans.  Billy Graham is the spiritual leader of  Republicans, and Nixon, the spiritual leader of Ahnold:

The Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the U.S. media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives.
"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher said as he agreed with a stream of Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.
"You believe that?" says Nixon after the "stranglehold" comment.
"Yes, sir," says Graham.
"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that, but I believe it."
"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," replies Graham.
Later, Graham mentions that he has friends in the media who are Jewish, saying they "swarm around me and are friendly to me." But, he confides to Nixon, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."
For the complete article:

http://www.freep.com/news/nw/nixon1_20020301.htm

Californian 10207 reads
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Here is how a quintessential American Jew, sees these ugly  thoughts, in March of 2002:


ADL says Billy Graham's Anti-Semitic Views on Nixon Tape are "Chilling and Frightening" New York, NY, March 1, 2002 …

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today called the anti-Semitic views the Rev. Billy Graham shared with President Richard Nixon "chilling and frightening even today, 30 years after the statements were made." ADL was shocked to learn from the just released tapes that the spiritual advisor to American Presidents believed and espoused age-old classical anti-Semitic canards. Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement: We were shocked to learn that a man of the cloth and stature of the Rev. Billy Graham held anti-Semitic views and freely shared them with President Richard Nixon, as revealed on the just released Nixon tapes. Rev. Graham's assertion that Jews had a "stranglehold" on the country and that a second Nixon Administration "might be able to do something," is chilling and frightening, even today, 30 years after the statements were made. It is shameful that one of America's most respected religious leaders and a spiritual advisor to Presidents believed and espoused age-old classical anti-Semitic canards.

The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/4048_12.asp


-- Modified on 9/13/2004 11:48:49 PM

Number 6 124 Reviews 8384 reads
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The USA is practically run by Israel, in partnership with the Religious Wrong. If that shouldn't make the Jews (at least the Zionist ones) vote for Witless, nothing will.

Californian 7979 reads
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Californian 8425 reads
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Let's correct some other misconceptions:

1] "Republicans support Israel only because they think it portends the Second Coming of Jesus"

The hidden story is well beyond this board, but the idea is in the end, either all jews become converts, or die! If someone welcomes a friendship with people with thid frame of mind, be my guest!

2] Many democracies were overthrown by the U.S. in the previous century, and  done under Republicans!  Iran, Guatemala, and Chile, and more.  The support for Israel by Republicans has nothing to do with the  kind of government it has

3] Read the bible, the old and new testament, in its entirety, and you will stop linking certain actions to Bible

4] "Israel has had no better friend in the White House than George W. Bush"  

Well, the whole muslim world, have started gradually mobiling, and polarizing in a very dangerous way.  That is 1.3 billion people, and 57 countries.  In European journals, there are remarks very degrading to the Americans regarding Israel, and I don't even want to repeat here.  

For all practical purposes, during current adminstration, in the eyes of world populations, and not only muslim world, it is the U.S. and Israel against the world.  This is NOT healthy.  

The chaos in the Middle East, helps jacking up the price of oil, and get who gets the blame.

The last I checked, only 30% of the American Jewry may vote Republican.  

By the way, if you ever get a chance, incognito, go behind the walls of all WASP, all Republican, country clubs!  It will be an enlightening experience sometime!

TheAnswer 49 Reviews 8053 reads
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If the USA is run by some small country/special interest group like Israel or "the Jews", what does that say about all the clueless and powerless 200 Million who are subject to it?

MrSelfDestruct 44 Reviews 7645 reads
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SULLY 24 Reviews 8492 reads
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Nu, vos macht a yid?

Ein Kleine Yid
Sully

HootOwl 49 Reviews 7975 reads
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"go behind the walls of all WASP, all Republican, country clubs!  It will be an enlightening experience sometime! "

I have many times.   And I was welcomed there.  I went to one of the waspiest schools in the nation -- and was welcomed there and elected to their college senate.  We had about 6 blacks in the entire school, maybe less.  And in my year, one of them became class president and he was no Republican.

I have had my share of people loudly yelling "tolerance and diversity".  The hate coming from that group, e.g., United for Peace and Justice, is much too stifling for me.

HootOwl 49 Reviews 8885 reads
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Before I go further, let me say I am aware of that and it's appalling.  And I respect your statements and welcome intelligent conversation on this, but when a Republican compares anyone/anything knowadays to Bill Clinton, we are accused of being buried in the past and how Clinton has nothing to do with the current race.  With this thought in mind, what shall I do with an administration from the 1970s?   Want to go back farther, how about Southern and Midwestern Democrats founding the KKK?  How ludicrous now would it be to associate the KKK with the Democrats?  Do you get my point?

My first point was speaking to modern Republicans?  The here and now.

HootOwl 49 Reviews 8399 reads
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want to get a me a woman for tonight?  Stop mumbling amongst yourselves!!! Fetch me a wench!  Now.

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Californian 9369 reads
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Dear Sully ... following Soros, Spielberg, and Kerry? What do you say!

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