Your last point is the most pathetic. Most people, here and abroad, know Trump blew the pandemic response and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands. Here's an excerpt of a paper from two months ago:
"Between 130,000 and 210,000 COVID-19 deaths in the United States could have been avoided if the Trump administration had quickly and effectively implemented a cohesive public health response to the novel coronavirus, according to a new report. The report by Columbia University Earth Institute’s National Center for Disaster Preparedness, entitled “130,000 – 210,000 Avoidable COVID-19 Deaths — and Counting — in the U.S.,” compares the U.S. death toll and policy response to six similarly high-income countries: South Korea, Japan, Germany, Australia, France, and Canada.
The new report suggests that if the U.S. followed similar policies and protocols as the six nations, such as building sufficient testing capabilities, enacting earlier lockdowns, issuing a national mask-wearing mandate, and providing federal guidance on social distancing, it could have avoided at least 130,000 and potentially as many as 210,000 COVID-19 deaths.
The report concludes there is a disproportionately high COVID-19 death rate in the U.S. compared to the other nations, even when examining median population age and obesity — two well-documented factors that affect COVID-19 mortality rates. This is likely explained by the slow and disorganized response by the Trump administration in both the early days of the pandemic and persistently through today. South Korea, for example, which reported its first COVID-19 case on the same day as the U.S., quickly enacted stringent measures to combat the spread of the virus that have resulted in a low mortality rate among its population.
“The U.S. death toll stands apart from nearly all high-income nations. The data establishes that a significant number of lives could have been saved if the Trump administration acted on the advice from the scientific and public health community,” said Irwin Redlener, principal author of the report and founding director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness and Director Pandemic Resource and Response Initiative at Columbia University’s Earth Institute. “As the country faces a second wave of this virus, we need to hold leadership accountable. The magnitude of loss, caused by a disorganized response, will have devastating and long-lasting consequences for millions of American families.”
The report incorporates data through October 16, when the U.S. death toll was 217,717 and more than 8 million COVID-19 cases were confirmed in the U.S."
Also, while it's true that many (though far from all) those who died had co-moribities, most of them would still be alive. So go push your theory to some of their family members.
And, yes, I DO give Trump some credit for Operation Warp Speed. It definitely helped, especially on the logistics side. But it (and Trump) were NOT mostly responsible for the speedy vaccine development. That success is the result of the Pharma industry's development efforts for the past 20 years to create the building blocks for a mRNA vaccine. The entire template for a vaccine was just sitting there waiting to be used. Once the Chinese sequenced the COVID gene it took only weeks to develop a vaccine. The rest of the time was to go through the testing process.
So, again, Chickenshit is full of shit.
Yes I am celebrating the good news! But before we go gaga about giving credit to Trump for WarpSpeed … even if a moron like you were the president, won't you have not done that? You could have done more and early! Trump has brought us to our knees, as a country, so that trumpanzees expect credit for allowing tax dollar to spend on making vaccines that we need? This is what he or any leader of any worth supposed to do - without demanding credit!!!!
Read Nicky's response on this too!
BTW, regarding confusing the Covid death counts with Fox fueled comorbidity confusion, do you and all resident expert MD's on this board know that: all deaths ultimately involve a heart failure at the last moments of the dying process? If the world followed Faux news rule on 'cause of death' in the death certificates, all the death certificates will have to write 'heart failure.' Don't confuse with 'Cause of Death' with the 'process of death'.
