Am I posting lefty bullshit like CDL posts righty bullshit?  NO!!!  Trump advocated for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza IN…HIS…OWN…WORDS Saturday:

…from time to time but they keep their thoughts to themselves (or post them on discussion boards under an anonymous handle).

All you have to do is look at the devastation there, where almost all buildings have been reduced to rubble. It's impossible to believe it can be rebuilt in any reasonable time frame. The Netanyahu government is full of extreme right-wing religious members who want to take back Gaza. So, while there's no evidence -- except now Trump's own words -- the facts on the ground speak for themselves. The Gazans will come to their own conclusions but many will simply vote with their feet and figure out ways to escape the area and settle in Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon. It's a de facto depopulation campaign and Trump, as he so often does, just said the quiet part out loud.

People in Gaza have overstayed their welcome after the oct 7th attacks.  

Palestine is a creation of the British Mandate post WWI and then certified by the now-defunct League of Nations. The UN then created a partitioned state in 1948 that was a patchwork of Jewish and Palestinian areas. Geographically it was non functional. The Jews nevertheless accepted their part of the partition, the Palestinians and Arab counties did not.
So the Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis and Saudis attacked fledgling Israel, vowing to push the Jews into the sea. Some of them have been yelling "from the river to the sea" ever since. But they got their asses kicked.
Even since then, millions of "Palestinians" have been penned up in refugee camps in Gaza, the West Bank, Jordan and Lebanon. The Arab states could have integrated them into their own populations but refused because the refugees were a convenient club to wield against Israel.
For their part, many Israelis maintain the Palestinians DO have their own state and it's called Jordan. Meanwhile, the Israelis have built their country into an economic and military powerhouse. That power was recently on display as they serially kicked the asses of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.  Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf States have recognized Israel isn't going anywhere and have, to one extent or another, made peace. The only true losers here are millions of Palestinians, in part because they've been used as pawns and in part because they meekly permitted first the PLO and then Hamas to run things.
That all said, the reality is that there can be no broad peace in the Mid East unless the Palestinians get a state of their own. If they are run out of Gaza, that makes peace even harder. Especially if the Israeli religious right encroaches on Gaza and drives more and more Palestinians off their land in the West Bank.
The only hope short term is that Bibi's government falls (which probably means jail for him) and a more moderate government takes over in Israel.

The IDF literally forcibly removed Israeli's from the Strip in the hope of peace. How did that turn out for Israel?
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Palestinians (or Gazans if you prefer) voted in Hamas which took billions in aid NOT to make Gazan's lives better, but to build an elaborate tunnel system which they used to attack Israel from. The neighboring Muslim states have done zilch to help Gazans. Jordan and Egypt have closed their borders to the refugees.  
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The problem here is Iran. Without them, there is no Hamas. Without Hamas, Gaza had a real chance of having a peaceful nation with Israel as its peaceful neighbor.  
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What we needed, and it's too late for that now, was some sort of U.N. peace keepers in Gaza to root out and beat back Hamas. We didn't get that so it was left to Israel to do the job. They leveled the place. The U.S. would have done the same exact thing had some terrorist group from say Toronto entered into Buffalo and killed 38,000 Americans which is the aproximate per capita equivalent to October 7th.

Which is why the only solution is a new Israeli government which, in return for recognition from the rest of the Arab World, will permit the establishment of a viable Palestinian state that could not threaten Israel (in other words, a state with no Army).

the words, "Ethnic Cleansing."  You made that up, just like you do with most of your posts.  Throughout history, ethnic cleansing is a euphemism for genocide, and you know that Trump is not advocating that, so your entire premise is a lie.  

without some sort of Palestinian state there can be no peace. That is simple pragmatism.

Those who falsely call themselves "Palestinians" are incapable of assimilation or functioning peacefully outside the group.   The American experiment has proven that people can move here from all over the world and assimilate into a wide range of communities.  When some initially gravitate to areas where there are people who speak the same foreign language, once assimilated, they often move far from these familiar groups in order to give their families a better shot at the American dream in a new environment.   There is a Ukranian family that just moved into my neighborhood.  Owns a large, successful trucking company that operates between SoCal and the great lakes area, where he moved from.  There are no other Ukrainians in the neighborhood that I'm aware of.  Nice guy with a good sense of humor who seems fully assimilated into the American dream.

You have assumed I stated or implied that Palestinians "are incapable to assimilation." Some have and some will not. They were promised a homeland by the UN in 1948 and, by whatever name you call them, have lived on that land for generations. So a good percentage of them will stay and fight unless given some sort of viable state. So just as a matter of pragmatism, without a state there will be war everlasting.
It's really not complicated.

for Centuries, not generations, and they were relocated to safe areas and had the protection of the Federal Government, a measure of autonomy, and Federal financial aid.  Anyone have a problem with a tribe member getting $100,000 a year on top of their regular job from their share of Casino profits?   However, even the lure of free casino money is not enough to stop many Native American descendants from assimilating into an American lifestyle.  

You missed the point that, while there might have been a few hiccups along the way, the descendants of Native Americans that own shares in local Casino's are doing quite nicely today.  Many regard the income as a supplement to their work income, others are retiring in their 30's and enjoying a life of leisure.  

You can sometimes see the future.  Try it.  

do NOT disagree with me that Gaza would be a better place to live as a beachfront resort.  

Because you're starting to sound like a raving lunatic (in other words, like Wanker). Native Americans weren't "relocated to safe areas," they were thrown off their ancestral lands so the land could be given to gold miners (like the Black Hills), or given to farmers. And they lived on reservations in poverty and ill health for more than 100 years before anyone thought to build a casino.
As for "a few hiccups along the way," that's a nice euphemism for Wounded Knee and Sand Creek, to name just a couple.
Please, for your own health, don't try to run this shit by any Native American.

condo there some day, I'm going to use your "10,000 murdered souls" line to get a discount.  Thanks for the idea.  

It details the history of how many times the Palestinians have been offered a two-state solution...

Isn't that the issue? And what guarantee would the Israelis get that terrorists wouldn't take over that lot of land at some point and launch attacks from it? Everyone says the West Bank but that is problematic for so many reasons with one being it would cut Israel in half, essentially and two, they would have the hills to fire down on massively populated Israeli cities and infrastructure. What a mess!
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Israel takes a lot of shit for their actions but I dont see any Muslim army willing to do the job that Israel has to do. That would be the real answer but Muslim nations clearly don't GAF about Gazans/Palestinians.

any Palestinian state would not be heavily armed. The Palestinians have been on the West Bank for decades and it hasn't "cut Israel in half." There is no doubt Israel, being very small, has issues re defense but they're managed to remain strong and independent. The current war has proven again that no state (or states) in the Mid East can stand against them, especially if the US is committed to their defense. Also, the Gulf States, Jordan and Egypt are smart enough to know that Israel can be a strong economic partner and a bulwark with them against expansionist Iran.
So, yes, it's a mess but I don't believe an insoluble one.

… Because I call out his bullshit and lies.

link to any quote in the media of Trump using the term "Ethnic cleansing."  You lied, and your excuse is that you were justified because you think others lie?  Do you know how fucking weak that makes you look?  I will be the first to concede that you lie better than anyone else here.  What happened to the old BigP who at least had his shit together once in a while?  

I never said Trump use the term “ethnic cleansing” but you’re claiming that I did so you can call me a liar.  You really are a dumb fuck for claiming I said Trump used the phrase “ethnic cleansing.”

He couldn’t even understand Wikipedia’s definition of “ethnic cleansing.”  Wiki stated that murder pwas merely ONE of the methods of ethnic cleansing. It was no genocide in and of itself.  

ONE of the methods of ethnic cleansing.  That sounds a lot like what I said originally.  You seem to be chasing your tail.   If I understand you correctly, Genocide is murder, and ethnic cleansing CAN also be murder, but they are not interchangeable.  Bwahahahahahahahaha    You sound like a drunk version of Conan the Grammarian.  Again, it's a distinction without a difference.  Don't be so anal-retentive.  You might explode and there will be shit everywhere.  Lol

I don't know why you think my statements are racist.  Can you explain?

THAT is what you originally posted.  Apparently, you are so stupid that you don’t know what “euphemism” means.  It means that ethnic cleansing and genocide are one and the same.  They are NOT.  

I know that CDL lives in SoCal but not exactly where. It's probably someplace nice. Who thinks that CDL's house should be bulldozed and the property converted into a practice green for Trump to use whenever he is in SoCal? When Trump isn't there, visitors can use it for a fee, a portion of which will be sent to CDL, wherever he has been relocated ... maybe one of the Indian Reservations.  
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All in favor, say Aye!  
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Aye!