Politics and Religion

Thanks for the info from both of you....
Snowman39 1109 reads
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You have to soner though, does that mean that EVERYONE who is pulled over must take a sobriety test otherwise you can not take them anymore?

I agree that you can not just use race as a factor (although ignoring the obvious does kind of smack in the face of common sense), but there are behavioral traits you can look for as well, just like a DUI.

Do you speak the language, if so, is it passable? It does not have to be solely based on race.

Seems the easiest thing to do would be for the Arizona legislature to re-word it and pass it again.
It is HUGELY popular in Arizona and would pass no problem (with legal residents that is).

I was not able to find a news report on this that didn't seem biased, but didn't want to sit on the basic info and thus delay the inevitable food fight.  The court in question is the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, one of the more liberal appeals courts. Commence firing!

the Ninth Circuit rejected Arizona’s claim that the law required determination of immigration status only if there was reasonable suspicion that the arrestee was an undoc. Instead, the law requires determination of immigration status of EVERY person arrested.

    So, in other words, if you are a pasty white guy arrested for solicitation in Arizona, they can’t release you until they see if you have the proper papers.

       Once the law is read this way, there is almost no argument that it is constitutional, and the law professor who drafted it will have to take the blame for woeful drafting.


From the opinion:


"We agree with the district court that the reasonable suspicion
requirement in the first sentence does not modify the
plain meaning of the second sentence. Thus, Section 2(B)
requires officers to verify—with the federal government—the
immigration status of all arrestees before they are released,
regardless of whether or not reasonable suspicion exists that
the arrestee is an undocumented immigrant."

Snowman391110 reads

You have to soner though, does that mean that EVERYONE who is pulled over must take a sobriety test otherwise you can not take them anymore?

I agree that you can not just use race as a factor (although ignoring the obvious does kind of smack in the face of common sense), but there are behavioral traits you can look for as well, just like a DUI.

Do you speak the language, if so, is it passable? It does not have to be solely based on race.

Seems the easiest thing to do would be for the Arizona legislature to re-word it and pass it again.
It is HUGELY popular in Arizona and would pass no problem (with legal residents that is).

I can't imagine that not speaking English could be acceptalbe as probable cause under the law.  I also think mere "re-wording" would make it legal.  The entire idea is probably illegal.  Of course, we'll have to see if it goes to the Supreme Court.

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