I'm more of classical liberal- progressive middle of the roader.

"Willie" did more for getting this country out of the shitter than any of those cronies you were blabbering about.  Sr. Bush was the precursor for the coming attraction we would be getting when his son Shrub stole the White House eight years later. The U.S. suffered enough before that with the vegetable Reagan in office from '81-89; I hate to think what direction the country would've headed in if the just as fossilized pineapple Dole would've been elected.  The only saving grace if the pineapple had been elected is that it most likely would've spared the entire country from the ineptitude of Dumbya.  Only Texas would be enduring his fuck ups right now.

As a sidenote, it doesn't matter to me in the least whether presidents or presidential candidates have served in the military.  Heroism and the ability to lead can be attained in many other areas besides just serving your country.  Military service can definitely be beneficial, but it's hardly a necessity.  Kerry's military recognitions don't factor in my decision to support him.  He's just so much better than "I'm George Dumbya Shrub, and I approved these lies".

Speaking of hypocrites, it always amazes me how the Republicans made a witch hunt out of a extra-marital BJ, yet see nothing wrong with what Nixon did with Watergate, or the treason Vegetable Reagan committed by trading arms for hostages.

I repeat, I am a hypocrite; therefore, I am a REPUBLICAN!!!

Joke of the Day:  Do you know why Republicans have to go commando?  Because they flip-flop so much.

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BTW- Have I EVER dissed Bush I or Bob Dole as idiots here?

Both those guys were stand up guys. Their only mistakes were in kowtowing to their wacko Christo party wing. If they had held steady with their GOP centrist progressive roots, they might be held as great leaders and statesmen.  Perhaps BOTH two termers!

I once used to tell people I was a "Bush Republican" when he ran against Ronnie.  It stood for a certain intellectual approah to conservatism and foreign policy.  Boy did that go into the shitter.  Now it means you are a mental deficient!  How the mighty have fallen....

Throughout the 90's we heard over and over again how awful it was that Clinton was a draft dodger because he did what he had to do to avoid going to Vietnam and that GHW Bush and Dole were proud veterans.  Now GW Bush had daddy pull strings to get him into a "champagne" unit of the Air National Guard that assured that he had virtually no chance of going to Vietnam and Cheney used several student deferments since he did not want to go to Vietnam because he had "other priorities".  Meanwhile Kerry volunteered for 2 tours and was awarded 2 medals and 3 Purple Hearts.  Do you denounce "W" and Cheney as unworthy draft dodgers?

Pres. Carter was denounced by Republicans for his deficit spending which at least partially helped Reagan get elected.  The deficit soared under Reagan and GHW Bush and Republicans blamed the Democratic congress.  Clinton turned that around and actually ran a surplus so large that Greenspan testified that we were in danger of paying off the debt too fast.  Now that "W" with the Republican congress has reverted us back to the largest deficits ever, Republicans are no longer worried about it.  And you dare call liberals hypocrites!!!

Republicans accused Clinton of criminal activity in his involvement in Whitewater, but have no interest in investigating "W"'s involvement in Harken.  Hypocrites!

Republicans were outraged about FBI files ending up in the White House, but don't seem to care that a CIA agent was outed by someone in the White House.  Hypocrites!

Republicans were outraged about Sandy Berger removing documents from the National Archives, but have said nothing about Republican Senator Richard Shelby divulging to the media classified intercepted messages when he was on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.  Hypocrites!