Politics and Religion

Re:Reason (A)
LaurenalaSeattle 3403 reads
posted
1 / 12

these real quotes had me ROTFLAMAO. a small sample:
(from encyclopedia-online.info)

On the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA):

"The EPA, the Gestapo of government, pure and simply has been one of the major claw-hooks that the government maintains on the backs of our constituents." - As reported in the AP [1995 July 29]

"I am the federal government." - DeLay was responding to a government employee who tried to prevent him from smoking on government property. As reported in the New York Times [2003 June 13]
"...I am not a federal employee. I am a constitutional officer. My job is the Constitution of the United States, I am not a government employee. I am in the Constitution." - From "Talk Back Live" on CNN [1995 December 19]
On the working poor:

"Emotional appeals about working families trying to get by on $4.25 an hour [the minimum wage in 1996] are hard to resist. Fortunately, such families do not exist." - From the Congressional Record, H3706 [1996 April 23]
On war:

"Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes." - From a speech made to bankers [3/12/03]

On the role of women in the home:

"I have seen these liberal psychologists and sociologists talk about there is no need for the man in the family. The woman can take care of it. A woman can take care of the family. It takes a man to provide structure. To provide stability." - From a radio interview. His wife, Christine DeLay quickly asked to "edit this out," then turned to Tom and said: "This is not a good thing for you to be saying."
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HootOwl 49 Reviews 2124 reads
posted
3 / 12

"I have seen these liberal psychologists and sociologists talk about there is no need for the man in the family. The woman can take care of it. A woman can take care of the family. It takes a man to provide structure. To provide stability." - From a radio interview. His wife, Christine DeLay quickly asked to "edit this out," then turned to Tom and said: "This is not a good thing for you to be saying."
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While it may not have been "a good thing for [him] to be saying", I think the problem with black men abandoning their families in high proportions is anything but laughable.  It's sad and tragic.

-- Modified on 10/1/2005 11:46:34 AM

LeftWingLooney 2719 reads
posted
4 / 12

""I think the problem with black men abandoning their families in high proportions is anything but laughable.""  

Saying you care does'nt take any time!!!

Think about it. we only need to worry about em every 2 years and the pitance we spend on em comes from someone else and WE get to take credit for it!!!

Look dude, don't go busting up our racket. Get yer own minority class to pander to...

Bush Whacker 2834 reads
posted
5 / 12

He raped Mary then abandoned her and never supported her at all.

Maybe Mary should have aborted the Jesus fetus.

BTW you claim of high proportion of black mean abandoning families is just another racist gratuitous assertion.

HootOwl 49 Reviews 2895 reads
posted
6 / 12

No, it's not a racist comment.  It is hard fact.  (Black people can be criticized like any other people.)  

-Hoot.

-- Modified on 10/1/2005 5:28:47 PM

llcar 10 Reviews 2293 reads
posted
7 / 12

a large proportion of assholes are Republican.  I actually forget the journal that published the original proof -- but the converse is also true: ``All else egual, a large proportion of Republicans are assholes''.

I conjectured this long ago ...

HootOwl 49 Reviews 2403 reads
posted
8 / 12

I won't deny that.  But I also believe fervently that a large # of Democrats are assholes.  I live in NYC.  I see 'em everyday.

llcar 10 Reviews 2485 reads
posted
9 / 12

My point is that anybody can take so-called statistics and interpret them anyway to suit their cause.  Please do tell, just what about the ``problem with black men abandoning their families '' being ``sad and tragic'' that bothers you so ?  (A) Is it that trajedy itself, the underlying cause/reason that disturbs you ?  Or (B) that through some damn social program, it will cost you $.  Be honest, (A) or (B).  

Does the fact that the vast majority of prisoners are black also disturb you.  What do you think the reason for this fact is ?

HootOwl 49 Reviews 3304 reads
posted
10 / 12

A # of these social programs do not cost all that much in relation to the total federal budget so complaining about what it will cost me in hard dollars is (can be) a specious argument.  I am talkin about a human tragedy concerning the disintegration of the black family.  And it's not some skewing of stats.   Most black people are born out of wedlock.  Someone is either born to a married couple or not.  I don't see how this can be manipulated too many ways.

"Does the fact that the vast majority of prisoners are black also disturb you."

Probably doesn't bother me as much as I think you would like it to bother me.  Given the state of black leadership (neanderthal -- Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton, Jesse "Hymie Town" Jackson, etc.) and the general inability for the race to bootstrap itself as other segments have, e.g., the Jews (not very welcome when they arrived), the Irish (as much loved as the Jews), etc.  It's a sad inevitable conclusion.  I just hope history hasn't finished writing this chapter.  When one segment of society loses like this, we all lose.

Jeremy Bender 2962 reads
posted
11 / 12

coming to this country for a new start and a group held for hundreds of years as slaves and then after slavery to have to endure Jim Crow laws and other abuse and discrimination. Historically speaking, it really was not that long ago.

-- Modified on 10/3/2005 8:56:28 PM

llcar 10 Reviews 1857 reads
posted
12 / 12

Yes, I would hope that you are bothered about the fact that Blacks are so over-represented among the prisoner population.  Your assessment that Jews and Irish have enjoyed a greater success in bootstrapping themselves up does not take into account an important (confounding) factor -- they are White.  Would you not agree that there have been individuals/policies that have been historically against Blacks.  Given they had a bit of a ball and chain around their ankles -- LITERALY, for some period of time -- I submit they have done an extraordinary job.  Sure, there are many disappointments.  There are many disappointing Whites as well.

I do agree, that some Black leaders are pathetic -- across the boards, ``leaders'' are pathetic.    

As far as ``most black people are born out of wedlock'', I would like to know where you get that from ?  There is a difference between your conclusion that most black people are born out of wedlock and ``in [whatever study you read this from] Blacks tended, on average, to have a greater proportion of births out of wedlock''.  One should be skeptical of limited studies -- it would be advisable to not make sweeping generalizations (whether the study was conducted as best as possible -- there exists ``sample selection bias''.  In general, take care !).

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