Politics and Religion

Refocus, Reform, yes...
Once-Is-Not-Enough 310 reads
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1 / 29

Even claiming to defund a police department is something that by definition alone, alarms me.  Proponents of defunding any police department must be playing a game of semantics.

cks175 51 Reviews 17 reads
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2 / 29

“Reform” police departments are words that liberals and conservatives can come together on and find compromise.

“Defund” moves the argument to the extreme left, and makes compromise impossible.

Boobsman100 21 Reviews 14 reads
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3 / 29

I dont want to fund racist that's  killing my people either.They would have to  prove that they can clean up police units around  the country , ridding  them of kkk,Trump worshipping Cock sucking cops.

GaGambler 33 reads
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4 / 29

The Dims just can't seem to help themselves, I will admit it really looked like they had Trump on the rocks over the last couple of days, they managed to take a murder by one white cop that might even turn out not to be about race at all and make it all about Trump. As far as a great political move, dishonest as it was, I will still tip my cap for how effective it was.  

 
But can the Dims be happy with success? Of course not, they have to push the envelope so fucking far that even you and LTM are asking yourselves "WHAT THE FUCK???!!!" and so far at least Dementia Joe hasn't shown any sign of pulling back from the abyss. He hasn't actually jumped off the cliff of common sense quite yet, but he is teetering on the edge. Poor Joe is fucked here, He has to appease the nut job faction of his party if he doesn't they won't show up in November, but he can't totally sell out to those nut jobs lest the not totally insane Democrats start abandoning him. Poor Joe. lol

cks175 51 Reviews 19 reads
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5 / 29

If Biden is forced to pick between Defund or Reform, one would assume he’s got to go with Reform.  And I think the Democrats fear is that will hurt with voter turnout on the far left, which was an issue in 2016.  I see the Biden campaign trying hard to steer the conversation back to Covid. The question is whether the left wing of the party will let him do that.

GaGambler 23 reads
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6 / 29

Not after the loony left has been out in the streets by the thousands after telling everyone else that it's too dangerous to even go out for a haircut.  

 
I think they have most definitely overplayed their hand AGAIN, but what else is new?

JackDunphy 17 reads
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7 / 29

...how did something SO retarded that even Laffy thinks is stupid, manage to make it to mainstream liberal Democratic circles SO fast????

 
Outside of draft dodgers, and maybe ISIS sympathizer Boobsman, does anyone think this is a good idea?

 
I know what Plagiarist Joe will say:

 
"If you aint be for defunding the police, you aint black!"   LMAO!

Greenbacks2 31 Reviews 16 reads
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8 / 29

I hope every police officer in San Fran. LA, NYC, Denver, Seattle, Portland and any other Democrat run city goes on strike or resigns in the morning. Let America see what the far left can do to destroy their city. They voted for that crap now pay the price ! And CNN ad MSNBC, CBS,NBC,ABC see what they helped cause with the lies they spread.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 22 reads
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9 / 29

"Defund the police" is a slogan that no one can support at it's face meaning.  That's how it has been engineered.  It gives everyone cover, since they can "wokesplain" it to you, and then blather about whatever they think it means.  If you object, you are racist.  If you are silent, you are racist.   No two liberals have to agree on the same meaning, but they are virtuous for advocating it.  Virtue signaling is the most important goal -- as well as silencing the non-virtuous.

Greenbacks2 31 Reviews 12 reads
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10 / 29

I agree it is retarded. Laffy, We need a two party system in America. But the far left has been high jacking the DNC for years. We can both agree that Washington needs to be cleaned up. And the GOP was high jacked and we need to get rid of the establishment republicans like Romney need to go , and America got rid of Bush family in the last election with Jeb.  We have to many still in office and need them gone. You might not like it but that is why Trump was elected.  

Timbow 17 reads
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11 / 29
lester_prairie 12 Reviews 15 reads
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12 / 29

CNN's CAMEROTA: "What if in the middle of the night my home is broken into. Who do I call?"

Minneapolis City Council President BENDER: "Yes, I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors. And I know — and myself, too, and I know that that comes from a place of privilege."

Once-Is-Not-Enough 13 reads
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13 / 29

deserve more consideration.  Of course the label and packaging are important as is PR for any effort as significant as this.

 
But, after talking to my panel of experts, a starting point would be to take all the things that divert police departments away from their main mission.  Can think of two, homelessness and mental health patients.  Time to do some research on the percentage of calls, police officers handle in these two categories.  Maybe diverting a portion of the police department's budget to social programs that can deal with these two areas, would free up police officers for the kind of calls we want them to be making.

 
Of course I am no expert in this area, but maybe with some serious thought and the right packaging, this might make a degree of sense.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 12 reads
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14 / 29

that you were not all about partisan politics.  Care to elaborate exactly what you mean?  All about COVID?

Once-Is-Not-Enough 7 reads
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15 / 29

cleaner if we simply "dumped Trump."

Once-Is-Not-Enough 28 reads
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16 / 29

my post?  I'm not feeling it.  Care to translate into nonpartisan, non-hidden agenda, language?

Once-Is-Not-Enough 14 reads
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17 / 29

a mild dose of objectivity.  Are you even remotely capable of that?

 
If you truly do know any police officers, you understand that homelessness and often those with mental illness divert the attention of police officers away from their normal duties.  Maybe it would be a good idea to quantify, by number of police hours (which are the most basic form of determining manpower standards) how much attention is going to these two areas.

 
One of the biggest irritants of policemen/women is they are not qualified/trained to deal with these two categories of problems.  Well is there a logical way of diverting this workload away from police departments?  If so, how would we do this?  How would that equate to hours saved, converted into funding for these two social problems.  Maybe there are other categories as well.  Not professing to be the expert here, I really do not know.

 
Am only guessing what could possibly be on the minds of those who propose.  But unlike you, am not planning on running around like my hair is on fire or blasting something as completely foolish, without opening my mind first and giving it some thought.

 
Might not be possible at all.  Most human beings are uncomfortable with change and this is BIG change.  But what if it is possible and what if it could be done in a way that would take a lot of pressure off of our officers?

Once-Is-Not-Enough 19 reads
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18 / 29

without any idea what this would even involve, is par for the course.  That is why most of Trump's followers lack a college education, they simply do not know any better.

 
As long as it is hateful, does not make any sense, and provides a platform for division, obviously you would be for it.  At some point you will realize we are all Americans, and everything is not always just about hate.

 
If you were lying in the road injured, even though you are one closed minded, stupid, mother fucker, someone like me who could see you for the dipshit that you are, would still render aid/assistance to you.  Why not come out from under your stupidity, once in a while?

Once-Is-Not-Enough 14 reads
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19 / 29

proving any of this makes sense, lies with those who are suggesting it.  Let's see how this plays out.  If it is sheer stupidity, all of us, united as Americans will stand against it.

 
On the other hand, if it has merit, and is good for our police officers, who have a very difficult job, as it is, then it deserves some discussion.

 
This may be a good time to kick partisan rhetoric to the curb.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 19 reads
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20 / 29

of thinking on his feet and had a mental lapse there for a moment, or he is totally stupid.  "A place of privilege?"  That was one stupid statement.

 
But we can be sure, Lester, many are scratching their heads, wondering what exactly is the point of the call to "defund the police," semantics aside?

-- Modified on 6/8/2020 2:34:24 PM

GaGambler 22 reads
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21 / 29

But some of the people in the streets getting air time from the media are indeed calling for the complete dismantling of entire police departments. Let's see if the actual proposals from the people with the power to make actually enact the changes are more in touch with reality that a few loud mouths who managed to grab a microphone for five minutes or so.

 
Obviously dismantling an entire police force without a serious plan on with what to replace it is beyond stupid. Let's hope no elected officials even come close to any such proposals.

JackDunphy 18 reads
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22 / 29

This is what the Minneapolis City Council President said from the CNN link I put up yesterday:

 
"The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term," she added.

 
"Short term????"

 
They are clearly planning on doing away with the department there which is insanity. All of this because of BLM nut jobs. They are caving to activists rather than doing what is best for the community.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 14 reads
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23 / 29

but "defunding"? Stupid idea and idiotic choice of words. Even Minneapolis' use of the term "dismantling" the PD sits ill with me.  

 
Sometimes refocus and improvement takes an investment.

JackDunphy 22 reads
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24 / 29
JackDunphy 17 reads
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25 / 29
Jinx_The_Cat 33 Reviews 22 reads
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26 / 29

I’m not for abolishing law enforcement.  I am for social and community based reforms that obviate the need for police departments to be quasi military forces.  That is more budget rebalancing than out and our defunding and that is exactly what LA s Mayor and others are talking about.  When you can’t tell a cop car from a tank, there’s a problem in this country.  When the cops are issued Sub machine guns as their standard patrol car weapons, there is a problem.  

I think we need to fight to get to a place where that is no longer needed.   When people in south central no longer have the despair and desperation that extreme poverty brings, we won’t need those heavy guns in every cop car, will we.  

Once-Is-Not-Enough 19 reads
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28 / 29

way over Jack's head.  He has no idea how to process anything even remotely, resembling, thought-provoking dialogue.

 
Either that or he really does not know anyone on the police force.

Once-Is-Not-Enough 19 reads
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29 / 29

the streets" are doing anything more than, expressing their frustration and getting their 5 minutes of fame.  They are after all, human.

 
Having said that, have a pretty strong feeling they have no idea what "defunding" their police department means.  We both know, these same people would be the ones dialing 911, when they need a police officer to respond.

 
Clearly, they are not thinking straight.

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