Politics and Religion

Re: This thread is like . . .
impposter 49 Reviews 265 reads
posted
1 / 29

I do not do Facebook but someone asked me to watch this with them on their computer.  
http://www.facebook.com/ricksteves/videos/525251693620111/
The Story of Fascism in Europe: Hitler Takes Power
(~5 minute excerpt of longer documentary released in 2018)
"... temporary suspension of democratic procedures ...
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I knew much of the history already, except for the monument to the NUMEROUS political opponents that Hitler had arrested, sent to concentration camps, and then finally murdered in 1945 before they could be liberated. There are links to other segments on that FB page but I didn't watch them all, only this one:  
http://www.facebook.com/100044597972101/videos/1363863331256571
Hitler’s First Victims Were His Political Opponents  
(2 minute video)
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For those who do not know the history, these are a pretty good presentation. It might even help to make you think for yourself.

RespectfulRobert 19 reads
posted
2 / 29

I think Nazi/Hitler comparisons are VERY dangerous. Here is the issue...as much as I DESPISE this man, comparing him to someone who killed 6 million Jews never seems appropriate. He hasn't murdered anyone, hasn't jailed any of his political opponents and has obeyed all court proceedings that have gone against him. Let's not confuse a misogynistic, racist, narcissistic asshole with the world's worst ever human being. That does not compute.  
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Remember, he has had to endure TWO assassination attempts in just the last few months and these Hitler comparisons just place an even bigger bullseye right on his person.

impposter 49 Reviews 28 reads
posted
3 / 29

Those videos do not mention Trump. But even TRUMP does not know German history: "I want Generals like Hitler had." "Hitler did some good things." I think that many P&R readers do not know about the Rise of Third Reich. They can learn a little bit in ~7 minutes.  
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Hitler BECAME a dictator / jailer / murderer GRADUALLY. Hitler was able to secure temporary emergency powers -- dictator for one day --- to stabilize the nation. The rest, as they say, is history.  
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Trump is not Hitler. Trump must not be allowed to become Hitler. Trump must be defeated in the election.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Hmmm...you know my thoughts on this.
I think Nazi/Hitler comparisons are VERY dangerous. Here is the issue...as much as I DESPISE this man, comparing him to someone who killed 6 million Jews never seems appropriate. He hasn't murdered anyone, hasn't jailed any of his political opponents and has obeyed all court proceedings that have gone against him. Let's not confuse a misogynistic, racist, narcissistic asshole with the world's worst ever human being. That does not compute.  
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 Remember, he has had to endure TWO assassination attempts in just the last few months and these Hitler comparisons just place an even bigger bullseye right on his person.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 15 reads
posted
5 / 29

There is really no evidence he is "racist."  Hispanic Americans have warmed to Trump because they too realize that a lot of undesirables are coming across the border.  

LostSon 43 Reviews 24 reads
posted
6 / 29

Posted By: inicky46
Re: And yet it was JD Vance who called Trump "America's Hitler," so........eom
🙄🙄🙄

Icky D repeats the party line đŸ«Ą good job ickus regergatate the blue đŸ„¶ gooooo đŸ€ąđŸ€ź how does it taste coming up? As good ass going down?

LostSon 43 Reviews 16 reads
posted
7 / 29

Posted By: impposter
Re: Hmmm...you know my thoughts on this.
Those videos do not mention Trump. But even TRUMP does not know German history: "I want Generals like Hitler had." "Hitler did some good things." I think that many P&R readers do not know about the Rise of Third Reich. They can learn a little bit in ~7 minutes.  
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 Hitler BECAME a dictator / jailer / murderer GRADUALLY. Hitler was able to secure temporary emergency powers -- dictator for one day --- to stabilize the nation. The rest, as they say, is history.  
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 Trump is not Hitler. Trump must not be allowed to become Hitler. Trump must be defeated in the election.
Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Hmmm...you know my thoughts on this.  
 I think Nazi/Hitler comparisons are VERY dangerous. Here is the issue...as much as I DESPISE this man, comparing him to someone who killed 6 million Jews never seems appropriate. He hasn't murdered anyone, hasn't jailed any of his political opponents and has obeyed all court proceedings that have gone against him. Let's not confuse a misogynistic, racist, narcissistic asshole with the world's worst ever human being. That does not compute.    
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  Remember, he has had to endure TWO assassination attempts in just the last few months and these Hitler comparisons just place an even bigger bullseye right on his person.

Your side has exhibited much more Nazi like tactics than Trump ever did!  

Trump never jailed Hillary  
Trump never jailed Comey
Trump never jailed Peter Struck
Trump never jailed Lisa Page
Trump never jailed Rod Rosenstien  
Trump never jailed LtCol Vindman
Trump never jailed you get the picture.  

Your side however


Has jailed an absolute fuck LOAD of people and tried their damndest to jail and even assassinate Trump. Who are the actual Nazis here?

inicky46 61 Reviews 17 reads
posted
8 / 29

Now it's just "the party line?"
Sorry, Looooser, that won't wash.
Eat this:
"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," he wrote privately to an associate on Facebook in 2016.
When his Hitler comment was first reported, in 2022, a spokesperson did not dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance's views."
Now go back to spewing your Red Goo, Loooooser. Semper Lie.

LostSon 43 Reviews 23 reads
posted
9 / 29

Posted By: inicky46
Re: Oh, so is Looooser now saying Vance didn't call Trump "America's Hitler?"
Now it's just "the party line?"  
 Sorry, Looooser, that won't wash.  
 Eat this:  
 "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," he wrote privately to an associate on Facebook in 2016.  
 When his Hitler comment was first reported, in 2022, a spokesperson did not dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance's views."  
 Now go back to spewing your Red Goo, Loooooser. Semper Lie.
Yep Vance changed his position which you don’t mention because you want to say Trump is the new Hitler with out saying it your self.

This ickus is weasel behavior. You know it, I know it, (and I can say it here) EVERYONE KNOWS IT!

impposter 49 Reviews 33 reads
posted
10 / 29

Trump jailed Michael Cohen ILLEGALLY in an attempt to keep Cohen from exercising his 1st Amendment right to tell the truth about Trump, Trump's crimes, and Trump's Mafia like leadership style.  
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Trump wanted his goon squads to Hang Mike Pence! ... and didn't lift a finger to stop them for 3 hours.
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Trump encouraged his cult members to 'Beat the hell out of that guy ... Trump will pay the legal bills.' (I'm not looking up the exact quotes and links.)
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Trump WANTED Hilary to be locked up. He still wants her locked up. And he is threatening to lock up Hillary AND OTHERS (Cheney, et al.) -- with impunity and immunity -- if he is elected. A tribunal to try Cheney for treason?
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Trump went after Vindman and ended his career, Tried went after Struck and, I think, Struck won a lawsuit for unlawful termination or reassignment or something like that. Trump ordered a career DoJ official fired from the DoJ one day before his pension would be vested (not looking up his name); the fired official went to court and won his case over the vindictive firing.  
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Trump would have done FAR WORSE and ILLEGAL things if not for people within the WH Admin working to prevent him from doing so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Part_of_the_Resistance_Inside_the_Trump_Administration
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#
Godwin's Law  
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..." "I [Godwin] urge people to develop enough perspective to do it thoughtfully. If you think the comparison is valid, and you've given it some thought, do it. All I ask you to do is think about the human beings capable of acting very badly. We have to keep the magnitude of those events in mind, and not be glib. Our society needs to be more humane, more civilized and to grow up." "
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"In August 2017, while commenting on the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Godwin himself endorsed and encouraged social-media users to compare its "alt-right" participants to Nazis."
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"In 2023, Godwin published an Opinion in the Washington Post stating "Yes, it's okay to compare Trump to Hitler. Don't let me stop you." In the article, Godwin says "But when people draw parallels between Donald Trump’s 2024 candidacy and Hitler’s progression from fringe figure to Great Dictator, we aren’t joking. Those of us who hope to preserve our democratic institutions need to underscore the resemblance before we enter the twilight of American democracy." "

Posted By: LostSon
Re: Ok you need to stop with the Hitler stuff đŸ€«
Posted By: impposter
Re: Hmmm...you know my thoughts on this.  
 Those videos do not mention Trump. But even TRUMP does not know German history: "I want Generals like Hitler had." "Hitler did some good things." I think that many P&R readers do not know about the Rise of Third Reich. They can learn a little bit in ~7 minutes.    
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  Hitler BECAME a dictator / jailer / murderer GRADUALLY. Hitler was able to secure temporary emergency powers -- dictator for one day --- to stabilize the nation. The rest, as they say, is history.    
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  Trump is not Hitler. Trump must not be allowed to become Hitler. Trump must be defeated in the election.  

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Hmmm...you know my thoughts on this.  
  I think Nazi/Hitler comparisons are VERY dangerous. Here is the issue...as much as I DESPISE this man, comparing him to someone who killed 6 million Jews never seems appropriate. He hasn't murdered anyone, hasn't jailed any of his political opponents and has obeyed all court proceedings that have gone against him. Let's not confuse a misogynistic, racist, narcissistic asshole with the world's worst ever human being. That does not compute.    
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   Remember, he has had to endure TWO assassination attempts in just the last few months and these Hitler comparisons just place an even bigger bullseye right on his person.

Your side has exhibited much more Nazi like tactics than Trump ever did!  
   
 Trump never jailed Hillary  
 Trump never jailed Comey  
 Trump never jailed Peter Struck  
 Trump never jailed Lisa Page  
 Trump never jailed Rod Rosenstien  
 Trump never jailed LtCol Vindman  
 Trump never jailed you get the picture.  
   
 Your side however
  
   
 Has jailed an absolute fuck LOAD of people and tried their damndest to jail and even assassinate Trump. Who are the actual Nazis here?

A fuck LOAD of people who participated in a violent attack on the Capitol were investigated, indicted, prosecuted, convicted, and in some cases, incarcerated. Jan 6 was NOT "a love fest" or "a beautiful, peaceful thing." (Not looking up or linking to Trump's exact quotes.)
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Who is "THEY"??? "They" (Dems) did not try to assassinate Trump or encourage such a thing. They (Dems) CONDEMNED the violence and the attempted violence. The Butler PA shooter was a pro-gun, pro-Trump sicko. The FL guy hiding in the bushes was a pro-Trump guy who voted for Trump and was angry at Trump for not keeping his promises to his supporters.  
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As Bolton and others have said, if Trump is elected again, Trump WILL act like a dictator and, having learned from his first term experience, will be far more successful at it.  
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EDIT: Added more details and links.

-- Modified on 11/3/2024 4:34:44 AM

LostSon 43 Reviews 18 reads
posted
11 / 29

Posted By: impposter
Re: Ok you need to stop with the Hitler stuff đŸ€«
Trump jailed Michael Cohen ILLEGALLY in an attempt to keep Cohen from exercising his 1st Amendment right to tell the truth about Trump, Trump's crimes, and Trump's Mafia like leadership style.
Ok now you have jumped the shark without the cool Fonzie jacket on!

Trump absolutely didn’t jail cohen the New York DA went after cohen looking to find dirt they could go after Trump with!  

Nice selective memory ya got there.

inicky46 61 Reviews 17 reads
posted
12 / 29

Hell, he's been kissing the asses of every dictator on the planet. Putin, Xi, Orban, Erdogan, the list goes on.

LostSon 43 Reviews 22 reads
posted
13 / 29

Posted By: inicky46
Re: I have no problem comparing Trump to any despot you care to name.
Hell, he's been kissing the asses of every dictator on the planet. Putin, Xi, Orban, Erdogan, the list goes on.
Then say it  I C K U S !   You know ya wanna, say “Trump is the next Hitler!”

LostSon 43 Reviews 17 reads
posted
15 / 29

Posted By: inicky46
Re: Here's the only thing I have to say to Looooooser....
Icky D is a pussy

Icky D is a pussy

Icky D is
 oh never mind everybody knows it anyway.

inicky46 61 Reviews 17 reads
posted
16 / 29

Is he trying to make The SPOAT look good by comparison. With posts like these he is definitely making a run.
Let's see if we can crown a new SPOAT.

impposter 49 Reviews 37 reads
posted
17 / 29

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/michael-cohen-prison-gag-agreement-book-confinement/
Michael Cohen Was Sent Back to Prison After Refusing to Sign a Gag Agreement [July 2020]
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"Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s estranged former personal lawyer, was abruptly sent back to ***federal*** prison on Thursday after balking at a gag agreement that would have prevented him from talking to press or publishing a book while on home confinement. Cohen has been on home release since May due to the coronavirus pandemic. As a condition of his home confinement, the [FEDERAL] Bureau of Prisons asked Cohen to agree to significant restrictions. He was required to abstain from “engagement of any kind with the media, including print, tv, film, books or any other form of media/news,” and from “all social media platforms,” according to a copy of the agreement obtained by Mother Jones. Cohen was also required to agree to tell friends and family to avoid posting on his behalf about him. ..."
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Trump wanted Cohen silenced and Trump told Barr to shut him up. Cohen refused to agree to the non-disclosure conditions (which were there ONLY to benefit Trump) and was put into solitary confinement.
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http://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-orders-michael-cohens-release-home-confinement
Federal Court Orders Michael Cohen’s Release to Home Confinement [Jul 2020]
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"U.S. District Court Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein today ordered the release of Michael Cohen to home confinement. Ruling from the bench, the federal judge found that the government violated the First Amendment by sending Cohen back to prison *****in retaliation***** for plans to publish a book critical of the president prior to the November election. ..."
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Trump wanted Cohen silenced and had his Mafia-like goon, Barr, see to it, regardless of the law and the US Constitution.  
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THAT WAS TRUMP THEN. THAT IS TRUMP NOW. And Trump will be WORSE in the future.

Posted By: LostSon
Re: Ok you need to stop with the Hitler stuff đŸ€«
Posted By: impposter
Re: Ok you need to stop with the Hitler stuff đŸ€«  
 Trump jailed Michael Cohen ILLEGALLY in an attempt to keep Cohen from exercising his 1st Amendment right to tell the truth about Trump, Trump's crimes, and Trump's Mafia like leadership style.
Ok now you have jumped the shark without the cool Fonzie jacket on!  
   
 Trump absolutely didn’t jail cohen the New York DA went after cohen looking to find dirt they could go after Trump with!  
   
 Nice selective memory ya got there.

LostSon 43 Reviews 25 reads
posted
18 / 29

Posted By: impposter

Trump wanted Cohen silenced and Trump told Barr to shut him up.  
Please add the link that proves this, if not your just makin shit up!

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 17 reads
posted
19 / 29


and IMP goes full fuck nuts on Hitler comparisons.

LostSon 43 Reviews 18 reads
posted
20 / 29

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: Damn. I stay off the board all day


and IMP goes full fuck nuts on Hitler comparisons.
Yes he did
 🙄🙄🙄  if Impy is ready to believe Trump is the new Hitler it’s no wonder seriously unhinged people have tried (and may continue to try)  to kill him.  

I didn’t think he was 5000% ready to go full swamp donkey for the lies but apparently so.

If Trump gets elected the legacy media will continue their attacks just because it’s what will drive viewership and GOD KNOWS they need every eye they can get to make their advertising dollars. Also they have created a whole class of TDS sufferers that will just about have to be deprogrammed in order to be normal people again.  

Then there are those who’s TDS is terminal
 cough ICKY D cough. There ain’t no curin that example! Icky D is going to be on his death bed croaking out “Buuuuuuut TRUUUUUUUMP!”

inicky46 61 Reviews 19 reads
posted
21 / 29
impposter 49 Reviews 33 reads
posted
22 / 29

IT'S TRUMP'S SOP! You aren't a LostSon, you are a lost soul. You and the other MAGAs get your "news" from X, FB, TT, and Trump's own lying mouth.  
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http://www.npr.org/2020/06/16/879008303/the-trump-administration-goes-to-court-to-try-stop-john-boltons-book-publication
The Trump Administration Goes To Court To Try Stop John Bolton's Book Publication
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http://www.indy100.com/news/mary-trump-book-family-attempts-block-publication-9616466
All the ways the Trumps tried to block the publication of Mary Trump's tell-all book.
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http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-used-department-justice-target-132237074.html
Trump Used His Department of Justice to Target Foes Who ‘Annoyed’ Him, Fired U.S. Attorney’s Book Says.
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"... Berman alleges that when he was prosecutor in 2018, he was informed of interference in the case against Cohen. ..."
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http://www.rawstory.com/bill-barr-weaponization-cohen/
Michael Cohen calls out Republicans: 'The real weaponization' from the DOJ came from Bill Barr.
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EVERYONE who knows Trump has testified to his Mafioso methods to get underlings to do his bidding. Trump doesn't say, "Kill him and bury the body where it won't be found." Trump uses, "You know what to do, right?" (Some have used the Henry II analogy: "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest? [hint, hint] [wink, wink]") (Florida Documents Case: Trump's own lawyer had to testify that Trump want him to just [hand signal and noise] "pluck out" Confidential Documents to avoid sending them to the Nat'l Archives. What is Trump going to testify to? "I never said the words "pluck them out!!!" All I did was move my hand like this and whisper, "Whoosh! Whoosh!" and he ASSUMED I meant to pluck them out.")  
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Do you think that some guard at the local prison came up with the idea to make Cohen's FML release conditional on a CDA? Do you think the prison warden was concerned about some Cohen disclosure? Do you think the Federal attorneys in NY came up with the idea? SUCH A CONDITION HAD NEVER BEEN USED BEFORE.  
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/judge-finds-michael-cohen-s-return-prison-retaliatory-orders-his-n1234712
"I've never seen such a clause in 21 years of being a judge and sentencing people," federal District Judge Alvin Hellerstein said. "How can I take any other inference but that it was retaliatory?"  
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"Sending him back to prison was an effort by the Trump administration to censor criticism of the president, Cohen's lawyers told the judge. They cited previous court rulings that held that ***prisoners retain the First Amendment right to write and publish articles critical of government officials.***
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"But the Justice Department [= Barr] said Cohen was sent back because he refused to sign the document and contested several of its provisions, including a requirement to get advance approval for any employment and a ban on contacting other convicted felons."
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ALL ROADS OF INIQUITY LEAD TO TRUMP.

Posted By: LostSon
Re: Ok you need to stop with the Hitler stuff đŸ€«
Posted By: impposter
 
 Trump wanted Cohen silenced and Trump told Barr to shut him up.  
 
Please add the link that proves this, if not your just makin shit up!

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 20 reads
posted
23 / 29

The TDS is strong with this one.

inicky46 61 Reviews 18 reads
posted
24 / 29

And, like most MAGA-clowns, when presented with an array of facts he doesn't like and can't rebut, he just yells, "TDS!!! TDS!!! Waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 16 reads
posted
25 / 29

Whenever I see anyone go off into TDS crazytown I just ignore them. The same way I ignore people who say goblins are stealing their socks when they sleep. These people don’t have insights to anything other than a desperate need for a straight jacket and a thorazine drip.

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 24 reads
posted
26 / 29

When Robert is telling your own side you’re crazy and gone down a crazy Hitler rabbit hole then you know you’re fucking crazy. You’d think IMP was channeling Horse Shit.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 15 reads
posted
27 / 29

watching a guy try to jump the Grand Canyon in a Prius.    

durran421 16 reads
posted
28 / 29

Maybe our self-proclaimed race car driver Evel Knicky can tell us what that's like. đŸ€·

He seems like the Prius type.

inicky46 61 Reviews 19 reads
posted
29 / 29

and to hell with jumping the Grand Canyon In anything. Give me a 700-hp ground-pounder at Lime Rock, Watkins Glen or Mid-Ohio. That's real fun.
Aaaaaaand....cue up The SPOAT....

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