If the foundation of our arguments are so diametrically opposed. Starting with our definitions of conservative and progressive. As evidenced by the Tea Party movement, conservatives can be for radical change, and by your own admission progressives can be anything but for change.
So too with your assumptions about health care and concealed carry laws, but I will concede that you are probably not being literal with your examples.
I will concede that left or right is a moving target much dependent on one's own POV. Fiscally I doubt you will disagree that you come down on the extrem left of the spectrum, while I come down maybe not on the "extreme" right, but I will admit to being rather conservative where it comes to fiscal matters, but there again we butt heads on our definition of conservative. lol
Posted By: willywonka4u
I'll give you an example. If "conservative" means anything, it means that you are in favor of conserving the status quo. It's viewed as "what we have is good, don't fuck it up". Progressive means you are in favor of progress. It's a "what we got sucks, let's improve it" philosophy.media?
Conservative means take a measured approach to problems and make change carefully, Do no harm.
Progressive means expermient untill you get a good idea.
with yours in the least. I see progressives as those that would most assuredly relieve me of any and all the progress I've made, both personally and professionally, through hard work and ambition, and give it to all the lazy, worthless fucks that never did anything worthwhile. My definition is based on a lifetime looking at the denigration of the work ethic in this country. "The government is gonna do me right". The best example I can think of is the ones that refused to leave New Orleans when advised to do so, and wound up in the Superdome, 'cause the government is gonna take care of me in there. When I was growing up, there was no FEMA, no Medicare, no Medicaid, WIC, Welfare, food stamps, unemployment benefits, school breakfasts or lunches, and on and on. If you didn't want to work for your pay, you didn't eat. There were difficult times, of course, but neighbors helped neighbors, friends helped friends, and families looked out for each other. Now days, people don't even know their neighbors' names. $14 trillion has been spent on Johnson's "Great Society". Has any 'progress' been made on poverty in the country? Fuck no. There are still people that refuse to get an education, or educate themselves. Any progress been made in the urban school districts, after spending billions on education? Fuck no. Any progress been made on eliminating our dependence on foreign oil after Carter formed the Dept of Energy, and spending hundreds of billions since, on that bloated agency? Fuck no. We import more now than ever before. Progressive's have been doing a bang up job, haven't they? I fear for the future of our country. There are those that say, everything will work out in the long run. I fear it will not. And I will say that republicans have not been done a bang up job either. Until we learn to keep our hands working, and not stuck out, waiting for the government to put money into them, we will get no better. Progressives have created a complete society, and culture, of slackers. As my father would say, "they don't want to work....fuck 'em."
