...killing 20 Palestinians.  
http://www.cnn.com/2025/10/28/middleeast/israel-military-strikes-gaza-latam-intl

 
Yep, another war ended by Trump.  Might as well wrap up the Nobel Peace Prize and ship it Trump right now.

He's gotten out all the living hostages and all that's left is a handful of bodies. He just needs to play Trump along carefully and not piss him off.

if Hamas doesn't lay down their arms in the next phase, Bibi can go in and "finish the job."  That sounds pretty clear to me.  There is more than one way to get to peace at the end.  Trump knows this and it's why he said it the way he did.  

and the total of extra-judicial killings stands at more than 50. Hard to imagine the Nobel Committee giving him a Peace Prize when he kills people without arrest, charging or a trial.

Funny people never bitched when Biden, Obama, and Clinton were carrying out raids, bombing, etc.    BUT TRUMP!!!!!

Why do I have the feeling there is no comparison to what Trump is doing now?

Obama: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and Yemen

 
Biden:   Yemen, Syria, Jordan border, etc.

 
Clinton:  Iraq, Sudan, Syria, etc.

 
ALL ON TERRORIST GROUPS or Acts of war.

 
What are these people Trump is dropping bombs on...... LISTED TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS.    So if you are pissed at Trump for dropping bombs on terrorist organizations then you need to be pissed that these Presidents did it.

 
Since some Jack ass will want "sources".... look at the link for cartels and gangs listed as terror organizations.  Below is the EO:

 
"Today, the State Department is fulfilling one of President Trump’s first promises since he took office.  I’m pleased to announce the Department’s designation of eight organizations as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) and Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGTs).

As President Trump said in Executive Order 14157, cartels and other transnational organizations “threaten the safety of the American people, the security of the United States, and the stability of the international order in the Western Hemisphere.”

The State Department announces the designation of Tren de Aragua, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Cártel de Sinaloa, Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación, Cártel del Noreste (formerly Los Zetas), La Nueva Familia Michoacana, Cártel de Golfo (Gulf Cartel), and Cárteles Unidos as FTOs and SDGTs.

The intent of designating these cartels and transnational organizations as terrorists is to protect our nation, the American people, and our hemisphere.  That means stopping the campaigns of violence and terror by these vicious groups both in the United States and internationally.  These designations provide law enforcement additional tools to stop these groups.

Terrorist designations play a critical role in our fight against terrorism and are an effective way to curtail support for terrorist activities.  Today’s actions taken by the State Department demonstrate the Trump Administration’s commitment to protecting our national security interests and dismantling these dangerous organizations."

You have lapped up the bullshit of the Trump administration in designating these drug gangs as terrorists. They are not. They are thugs and thieves, which is bad enough. But they aren't targeting our troops, our diplomats, etc.
Anyone who can't tell the difference is officially dumber than a box of rocks.
Congratulations.

Are they or are they not a designated Terror Groups?   If they are on the terror list, it gives the right to conduct the operation that they are conducting.  LIKE IT OR NOT.

 
Just because you are too fucking stubborn to understand that fact isn't my problem.  You just want to HATE TRUMP for any fucking reason.

 
BTW.... Al Queda was added on to the Terror list in 2015.   LONG AFTER the 9/11 terrorist attacks.   Yet we conducted bombing raids, SEAL raids, army missions, etc on them prior to be added on the list.   You also know AL Queda was/is linked to drug trafficking.   (saying was/is since Al Queda is possibly reforming or still around)

 

Are cartels not targeting Border Patrol, ICE Agents, Immigration, DEA, etc.   You know......Federal officers?  Are US Citizens not dying because of fentanyl overdoses?  Do we not have an issue with fentanyl in the USA?  

 
Plus if you think fentanyl is only coming in from the south or "Mexico".... you are severely misinformed.

Not to mention, you've missed a HUGE point. Here is a list of the groups and almost ALL of them are in Mexico. So they don't use boats to smuggle ANYTHING. Two of the others are Venezuelan, so they can't be smuggling drugs on the Pacific. TWO are Ecuadorian. What evidence does anyone have they were using any of the boats involved? And MS-13 is a mostly LA-based group. In other words, Trump's actions don't hold up to any scrutiny at all. Neither does your post.
"Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación (CJNG): A powerful cartel in Mexico known for its extreme violence.
Cártel del Noreste (Northeast Cartel): A splinter group of the Los Zetas cartel operating in northeastern Mexico.
Cártel de Golfo (Gulf Cartel): One of Mexico's oldest criminal organizations, based in Tamaulipas state.
La Nueva Familia Michoacana: A successor group to the Michoacán Family, involved in drug trafficking and extortion.
Cárteles Unidos (United Cartels): An alliance of smaller groups in Mexico's Michoacán state.
Tren de Aragua: A transnational criminal group originating in Venezuela with a presence across Latin America.
Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13): A gang with origins in Los Angeles, active in Central and North America.  
Additional designations in 2025
Cartel de los Soles: The Trump administration designated this group as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist in July 2025, claiming it is headed by Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro.
Los Choneros and Los Lobos: These Ecuadorian gangs were designated as FTOs in September 2025."

The righties here who were bed wetting themselves because trump didn't get his Noble piece prize...oh lordy..
But hey, lets strike up that Abraham pace accord now...how's that working out for Gaza?
News Flash: Netanyahu doesn't want piece, he wants to annihilate Gaza

Not really since this years peace prize nominations happen prior to Trump even being in office.    

 
Also do I think he should get one..... NOPE.    Do I think he should have gotten one compared to how Obama got his.... YEP.    Obama got his nomination prior to him even being president or doing anything while being a president.  

This is why he got it "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"...... Now if he would have gotten it a year or two later.... Yeah...possibly.... but not when he did.   Timing was wrong.

Well, here's one off the top of my head.

Thanks again for proving the stereotype correct by.....MOVING THE FUCKING GOAL POSTS.

 
I bring up the reason why they are going after the groups they are.   You ask me to bring up examples of Obama, Biden, and Clinton.... and I do.    Now you bring up this shit.   JESUS MAN.   You just can't admit that what they are doing is FUCKING LEGAL and good for the USA.

 
Also how do you know or not know if they are doing any operations against these ones you are listing?  You do know that ICE is working and going after these with in the USA.   But you are against ICE raids.  Also maybe those groups in Mexico are having operations done on them by the Mexican Government.   The Venezuelan government isn't working with the USA.  Where the Mexican Government is working with us.

I said Trump's designation of these groups as terror groups was bogus and I PROVED it. They are drug gangs that have been in business for YEARS and NO President -- be he Democrat or Republican --  ever thought to designate them as terrorists. This designation is a fig leaf to give Trump cover to simply murder presumed smugglers as if they were armed combatants. You are naively accepting Trump's argument re his terror group designation at face value. I don't. What is too hard about that for you to comprehend?
As for what I "know or not know" you have no proof there ARE operations against the groups I named. You are just making a wild, uninformed GUESS. JESUS MAN.
Do you have the remotest clue how ludicrous your argument is? You are nothing more than a toxic, partisan hack. Stop pretending otherwise.

WTF do you mean.... just because another president didn't label them doesn't mean shit.

 
Why didn't other presidents not label Al Queda a terror group?  The group was formed in 1988 and did attacks on US embassy's in 1998.... but wasn't listed as a US Terror group until 2001.  Why did they wait 3 years?  They were attacking US Allies prior but we didn't list them as terror group..... Same could be said of ISIS and other groups.... same goes for Cartels.  

 
Yeah you moved the fucking goal posts.  You are playing the but but but game.   A president named a group a terror group and threat to the USA.  So these actions are LEGIT.    Your whole argument is that these actions are not LEGIT.   They are.   They are deemed a terror group by the US President.....PERIOD.

 
Then you are trying to base your argument on well these groups are not a threat.... well citizens are dying, they attack federal agents, they are attacking local law enforcement, they are conducting business/threats/crime on US soil, etc.  

put words in my mouth.
First you claim that simply because Trump did it, that makes it legal. Which is bullshit. Al Qaeda and ISIS are nothing like these drug cartels. It's a completely false equivalency.
Second I NEVER SAID "these groups were not a threat." Of COURSE they are. But that doesn't make them terrorists. And that fact that they ARE a threat does NOT mean it's OK to simply kill them on the high seas without benefit of the law. Do you think if Trump designated the Mafia as domestic terrorists that would make it OK to have the National Guard gun them down instead of trying to arrest them?
These are NOT subtle distinctions, the fact that you are unable to comprehend them notwithstanding.

Your foot's in the way.  Lol

No your arguement to begin with is this wasn't LEGAL..... which it is.   They were deemed a terror group which means that Trump can carry out attacks.

Second I gave examples of other presidents carrying out attacks on terror groups....they did bombings and raids.

 
You said sight examples..... I FUCKING DID.

 
Then you go off on Well why didn't other presidents or why are these other groups not terrorists.    I gave examples of well other presidents didn't claim other TERROR groups until later.     Then I just stated examples of how cartels and drugs are hurting US.    Correct.... why not the mob....especially foreign mobs.  I can't fucking answer that.    But i did answer why he is carrying out these bombing and raids..... and I pointed out your fucking HYPOCRICY on not being pissed or upset when other Presidents carried out raids on other terror groups.    

 
Your complaint can be the WHY did he list them as terror groups.   But that wasn't your initial argument.    Which i gave examples of WHY they should be.

 
 SO... MOVING THE GOAL POSTS.  

Exactly.....

 
He goes off "How can Trump do this"..... I reply because he listed them as a terror group.   Then point out how other presidents do these operations on terror groups.   He says list examples.... I DO.   Then he moves goal posts by saying....well why didn't other presidents name the cartels terror groups.... THE FUCK IF I KNOW.  Then I give examples of how other President don't list terror groups until later dates....and he then says I put words in his mouth or there is a difference..... NO there isn't.... a terror group is a terror group.   They are doing harm to the US or US Citizens.   Then when I give examples on why I think the harm they are doing (to refute others claims in this thread) he goes off saying OH I DIDNT SAY THEY ARE NOT DOING HARM.... then why are you pissed Trump is trying to stop them.   TDS at the max.

 
He just keeps trying to move the goal posts.

Also if you want to know the WHY with Venezuela specifically.....

 
Maduro's ties to the drug trade.   Cut off the money to them.   HURT THEM IN THE ILLEGAL TRADE.....so they have to do legal trade deals.    

 
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article289927469.html

 
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article312354383.html

It's up your ass. I promise to pull it out carefully. I don't want to lose my boot in there.

you didn't really reply to any of my points. And, yes, Maduro is a drug lord and a thug. So why not deal with him directly instead of blowing up supposed drug runners?

Actually I did and for some reason it didn't post.   I didn't want to post it again so it is a repeat.   But I guess you are too DENSE to understand you don't do military attack on US SOIL.    

 
But not a surrender when you keep moving the goal posts.

 
1.   I bring up that Trump listed them as a terror group to justify the raids.  Then list how other presidents raid terror groups.

 
2.  You say give examples.... I do.

 
3.  Then you say well why didn't other presidents list cartels as terror groups.... FUCK IF I KNOW.... but I mention how other presidents didn't list Al Queda or ISIS as terror groups until later.

 
4.  I give example on how they are harming US Citizens and you go off on how I put words in your mouth and you agree they are harming them.    SO GOOD.... they are a threat to US Citizens.... correct.   Cartels are a threat.

 
Well......   You say why not list the mob.... agreed why not.   I can't answer that question.   But the mob in other countries are getting fought with Interpol/other agencies and we have agreements with them.  So we wont BOMB them.

 
I answered the why with Venezuela with the Maduro and the gangs.   I can talk about the Mexico ones and how they have attacked on US soil, killed US Military and Federal Agents.... how Mexico cartel hacked into surveillance and tracked FBI Movements.  

 
BUT the fact remains...... Trump listed them as a terror group.   They are on the list.   Other presidents did raids, bombings, attacks, etc on groups on terror lists.    They do military attacks, bombing but NOT ON US SOIL.   You don't bomb on US SOIL.  Trump is raiding drug dens on US soil (ICE/FBI/DEA DRUG RAIDS).  Which they are ramping up.    

 
But I guess you are not understanding this are you.  They are working with Mexico and are doing operations there....just not bombing.... you know since Mexico is working with the US.  They are working on both the border with US Immigration as well.  Venezuela isn't.   GET IT.....no agreement with Venezuela like we do with Mexico and other cartel run countries or Mob countries.   So we won't BOMB in those countries unless we get permission or do raids unless we get permission or do a joint operation.      

 
Which goal post you want to move now........ I answered we have agreements with other countries to counter the mob, we have agreements with Mexico and their cartels and they are helping, i answered other presidents doing raids, i answered that other presidents didn't list groups in a timely manner, I gave examples and you agreed that they are hurting US citizens, etc....   So which goal post you going to move now.

You know what the ladies say about small feet versus large feet?!!  Sorry to let the car out of the bag about size.  Lol

There is no "false equivalency".... terrorist group is a terrorist group.   Cartels killing people, cutting off heads, murder, trafficking people, money laundering, crime, etc.   Yeah.... TERROR.   Cartels are doing it for profit and control of an area.  while Al Queda and ISIS are doing it for religious/ideological/political reasons.  TERROR IS TERROR.

 
Maduro is doing it to run a country.... kind of like how ISIS and Al Queda wanted to take over countries....  

 
So again.... not a FALSE equivalency.    BTW.... the Mexican cartels take over areas/regions in Mexico.   Just like Al Queda and ISIS were doing in the Middle East.   Controlling areas and people.

I say no.
Engaging with you is like debating a box of rocks.

Insults... when you can't refute what I talk about how a group is taking over an area.....one is for politics and the other is for profit..... both are TERRORIST.    A group using TERROR to control others.

 
Got it.     The Stereotype keeps showing itself.

Because you can't seem to comprehend a simple fact: that claiming terrorist status for drug smugglers violates international law. No matter what you and Trump claim, drug trafficking is a law enforcement issue governed by international human rights law, not an armed conflict. This law limits lethal force to situations where individuals pose an "imminent threat to life". There is no evidence of such a threat in the targeted strikes, deeming them "extrajudicial killings".
But keep on obtusely claiming if Trump says to it's automatically true.

He is calling it on CARTELS.   Which do more than smuggle drugs.   They commit acts of violence, trafficking of people, terrorize communities, murders, have "militias", extortion of political leaders, etc.    

 
But again..... it is over your head.

Jesus. What a waste of time you are.

Am I the only noticing a trend here?  
The response are eerily similar, kinda like they're joined at the hip..spooky shit here.

President of the Pathological Liars of America.

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