...the link to see how we compared to the other countries of the OECD in 2010.  We must be right up there with those socialist Scandinavian countries...

It should be a surprise to anyone why we have a 16 trillion dollar debt. We never had a debt that exceeded 1 trillion until Reagan gave the rich a 50% tax cut.

Why the fuck do we have to be like Europe? I don't want everything done for me. This "it takes a village crap" has got to end. If we run the federal govt at 20% of GDP, which is the historical norm, we'll be fine, but we are currently running it at 25%.

Have you seen the newest Lean Forward commercial? That lovely word "collective". Who is this MSNBC witch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa9temz_Cxw

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/us-lowest-taxes-most-industralized-countries_n_3039470.html

...babies when questioned about their sources.  See a few threads down.  Let's see you post about righties' sources.

And Huffington post was not where I saw it.  Keep posting your stupid shit.

most of the "everything done for me" countries are also the happiest countries in the world in almost every survey...

but who needs happiness.  As someone dead once sang, "Happiness...is a warm gun..."

As taxes have risen and more government interference occurs, we find our economy beginning to falter as our credit rating takes a hit..

They are provided for and will never have a will to evolve.

It is what do you get for the amount you're being taxed.

 The greed based construct systematically implemented over the years by the American Corporatocracy and the Banks would leave the 99% still without healthcare, housing, infrastructure maintenance etc etc. Even if we were in with the Scandinavian country’s 47% tax rates.

  Every ten years the banks, corporations,Wall Street, or the Military Industrial Complex create a bubble, or war that when burst is left for the 99% to pay for while the 1% who orchestrated/enabled the bubble pay a tiny fraction of the percentage rate as the 99%.

I re-iterate; "This Country of ours has simply degenerated into a hypocritical piece of “sell it to the highest bidder” SHIT that DESERVES to go down the fucking toilet as the most egregious, venal, corrupt, duplicitous, cacophony of slavish idolaters to money ever!"


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because you are right on the mark!

It's easy to say that we pay "only" twenty something percent in taxes if you are one of the people only paying twenty something percent. Even easier to say if you pay nothing or actually take FROM the system instead.

Not that I would ever want to emulate Europe, but I would be interested in seeing just how broad their tax base is, I would be willing to bet that more than half pay at least something into the system, unlike another country I could mention.

Now I will go back to ignoring your stupid ass. You can be a stupid idiot all you want and I expect nothing more, but now you are a liar too.

He was ALWAYS a liar, as well as a fool

but that's no excuse either. Ignoring him really hurt his fragile ego.

The only feed he will get from me going forward are some Monsanto spliced pig swill seed mixtures unless he suddenly grows up. I just can't stand debating with a retard.    

not for having conversations with.

Of course Daffy does have company. Can you imagine trying to have a conversation with TrannyBoy or Anonymousfun? Collectively their IQ doesn't reach room temperature.

Daffy thinks that by out posting you five to one that he is somehow winning the argumnent.

Somehow the original argument (debate) has been lost amongst all of the troll posts though. I am afraid we will have to resume that part of the conversation later.

Doesn't this look just like the cyber version of Daffy stomping his feet and holding his breath, just like your four year old nephew?

Like I said "an angry little troll"

had concentration camps in the US.  I said we have been just as ruthless to our own. The concentration camp IS YOUR QUOTE, not mine.  You are quoting yourself you dumb shit!

Unbelievable! I am done reading his drivel and lies.

Trying to talk to a fool and a liar is frustrating at best, simply poking fun at him does provide a bit of entertainment though.

It's much better getting him all twisted up in knots than getting all twisted up yourself trying to "unsay" shit you never said in the firstplace.

I would never go to the special olympics to visit him, but I may see him accidentally while channel surfing.

putting laffy the lying coward in the same catagory of retards is just way too insulting to retards.

You lying laffy the lackey, made a big deal about putting me on ignore. You, lying laffy reply to many of my posts which proves you are a liar and when I busted you for lying you come up with these lame lies about not logging in (which one does see all posts if not logged in ) however if I was truly on ignore you would have to log in take me off ignore post your reply then put me back on ignore ……..do you thing anyone really thinks you do that ? We all know you are a lying coward and never did put me or anyone on ignore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/us/politics/obama-budget-seeks-deal-in-mix-of-cuts-and-spending.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I don't know where adults go to learn manners...but you need to enroll.



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I don't want to be like Europe. But Christ, I also don't want to die driving over a fucking bridge.

Take a look at this. Here are photos of 2 subway systems. One of them is in Sweden. The other you'd think was in a 3rd world country. but it's actually New York's MTA.

http://gothamist.com/2011/01/10/photos_swedens_stunning_subway_stat.php#photo-1

I understand the role of government as a last resort to "juice" the economy during recessions. I understand the role of Keynesian economics, within reason though. So how much money has been spent in the past 4 years in order to recover, if you call what we've got a recovery?

$7T in new debt. A $900B Stimulus (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act). A whopping $45B was allocated to "shovel ready" projects. What marketing putz in govt came up with shovel ready.

$900B wasn't enough, so the govt came up with cash for clunkers. Most, if not all experts, said it was a failure. We had a myriad of mortgage relief programs. We had a payroll tax holiday. We had 99 weeks of unemployment. And what do we have willy? We got maybe 1-2% GDP growth, which is basically flat because our population grows by 1% a year.

Our federal budget as a share of GDP is about 25%. Obama's newly released budget is $3.8T out of GDP of $15T. Historically we average about 20%. So we are spending #800B more per year than normal, but I GUESS that's not enough.

Do you know we are going to have another housing bubble? Dodd-Frank is supposed to put the shackles on banks about loaning money to people who shouldn't be buying houses. Obama is encouraging banks to loan to less than qualified borrowers AGAIN. How about buying a house with a FICO score of less than 600, and 3% down. This shit never ends.

And don't compare us to Sweden. It's a bit easier to get shit done in a small homogenous country.

Sorry willy, no more money.