Politics and Religion

Re: It's called "history"...
eroticspirit 28 Reviews 959 reads
posted
1 / 31

These message boards mirror the national conversation. It seems like those on the left will support and stand up for anything the left supports and oppose anything that the left opposes---ESPECIALLY when it comes to anything Trump related. Conversely, those on the right will support and stand up for anything the right supports and oppose anything the right opposes. And whenever the two sides get into conversation invariably insults and a "my big brother can beat up your big brother" 3rd grade recess mentality takes over!

Will there EVER be a point where ANY kind of common ground is reached--or will this polarization and manner of "conversation" between the two sides go on this way interminably?

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 26 reads
posted
2 / 31

When I say support--I mean both sides support their stances without ANY shades of grey, nuance or middle ground---ALL or NOTHING!!

inicky46 61 Reviews 27 reads
posted
3 / 31

if you think the left never criticisms itself. If you had read more carefully, you'd have seen some of us criticize Biden and the Dems failure to get their BBB program through Congress before the election. You'd have seen us criticize CRT, "defund the police," and Antifa, among other leftist trends.
How did you miss that? Perhaps because you're an orthodox righty?

RespectfulRobert 29 reads
posted
5 / 31

Please tell us what schools while you are at it.

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 26 reads
posted
6 / 31

This is PRECISELY what I'm talking about---I'm being labeled an "orthodox righty" and here come the insults flying back and forth!! It really is sad that it always seems to deteriorate to grade school recess taunts!!-The ability to have a political conversation where both sides can at least show a TRACE of civility and find a TRACE of mutual ground seems to be gone forever!! And that damages ALL of us!!

impposter 49 Reviews 52 reads
posted
7 / 31

Back when Trump was all about Repealing the ACA (Obamacare), I asked those who agreed on repeal to name the 5 worst things about the ACA that they would want to change. There were no replies. It might have been "Premiums are too low." OK, let's negotiate changing the premiums to lower the gov costs. It might have been "Too many people still can't get coverage." OK, let's negotiate a fix about that. And so on. The ACA can be modified without being obliterated. But Trump's sole goal was to undermine many things accomplished under prior administrations -- and never acknowledging ANY common ground.  
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(And just to point it out again, the motto was "Repeal and Replace Obamacare" even though there was NEVER any plan to replace it. 100% of the effort was focused on Repeal, 0% on replace.  Suppose there had been even a small effort to change the one, two, or three major items considered to be wrong or bad with the ACA. It never happened.)
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(The list of "No Common Ground" enforced under Trump is a long one: No judicial appointments allowed; etc..)

Posted By: eroticspirit
Will there EVER be a point where ANY kind of common ground is reached--or will this polarization and manner of "conversation" between the two sides go on this way interminably?

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 24 reads
posted
8 / 31

Laffy--you absolutely have, without question--the most severe case of TDS on the planet!! Literally your very EXISTENCE is posting on these boards ripping him every chance you get!!

inicky46 61 Reviews 30 reads
posted
9 / 31

He's convinced that if you believe in ONE THING that is supposedly part of CRT that automatically means you believe in ALL of CRT and that it should be taught in Kindergarten.
He's toxic moron.
And can't tell shit from Shinola.

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 15 reads
posted
10 / 31

I can't think of anything in this life that is a greater offense to humankind than choosing the wrong mustard!!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 29 reads
posted
11 / 31

of the supporters at Youngkins campaign headquarters on Tuesday night, you would have seen the mothers (nearly half of which were Dems who switched sides and voted for Youngkin) holding up the CRT books being used in the school to teach CRT.   Click the link and you can buy your own copy of one of them that teaches kids at a very young age about white oppressors and the black oppressed.  I can't believe you are asking this question.  You are what they refer to a low-information voter.  Happy in your ignorance.

-- Modified on 11/4/2021 5:20:42 AM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 29 reads
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13 / 31
inicky46 61 Reviews 36 reads
posted
14 / 31

So you think because there's a book called "Woke Baby" and they did a school event around it in ONE SCHOOL that CRT is everywhere? All you've done is prove there's a book called "Woke Baby." Which is NOT a primer for CRT.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 22 reads
posted
15 / 31

Youngkin campaign party that showed books that were checked out from the school library, so they are more widespread than you think, and this is the issue that carried Youngkin over the finish line.  It goes hand in hand with McAuliffe telling parents he won't allow them any control over what is taught in the schools.  The narrative that CRT is NOT being taught in the schools was created AFTER the Dems realized the public was against it.

cks175 52 Reviews 25 reads
posted
16 / 31

There are areas of common ground, and numerous examples of both sides here being critical of “their own side”, but it gets drowned out by the tribalized name-calling that the discussions here inevitably sink too.

On the Left, you’ll find Nicky, Happy & others admit to Dem faults, but they also won’t step back from clashes that get personal.

You find the same on the right. Willing to be self-critical but not averse to a street fight either. Willy is a good example of this. He’ll present well researched arguments, but then finish with an often bombastic conclusion. This triggers lefties like Laffy and BigPapsan, who focus on the bombast and ignore the factual arguments presented.

Which leads us to the elephant in the room, Laffy. One of the earliest “polls” conducted here at the P&R forum was looking to find who the biggest spammer here was. There was a character, long forgotten, who literally posted gibberish here.  He was in the running, but at the end of the day Laffy was certified as the board’s biggest spammer.  A quick look at TER posting history shows that Laffy has kept up that spam energy over a long period of time.  He skews the tenor of the board, disregarding actual statements and opinions and instead imprinting his personal delusions that all conservatives are Nazi’s. Most recently this is exposed in discussions centering around the riot on Capitol Hill. Although every conservative here denounced the violence that occurred the day of the protest, Laffy will continue to insist that conservatives here are Nazi’s who supported it. This delusion spills into any conversation on any topic, especially when his argument or position on the topic at hand crumbles. At that point, he’ll change the topic to the riot, and accuse anyone pointing out the weaknesses in his initial argument as Nazi’s, throwing in as many obscene homophobic insults as he can while he’s at it.

At the end of the day, I think this forum will continue to be a place where honest debate does occur, but it more often than not will be tinged with animosity fueled tribalism.

LostSon 43 Reviews 21 reads
posted
17 / 31

Posted By: cks175
Re: Looking For Points Of Common Ground
There are areas of common ground, and numerous examples of both sides here being critical of “their own side”, but it gets drowned out by the tribalized name-calling that the discussions here inevitably sink too.  
   
 On the Left, you’ll find Nicky, Happy & others admit to Dem faults, but they also won’t step back from clashes that get personal.  
   
 You find the same on the right. Willing to be self-critical but not averse to a street fight either. Willy is a good example of this. He’ll present well researched arguments, but then finish with an often bombastic conclusion. This triggers lefties like Laffy and BigPapsan, who focus on the bombast and ignore the factual arguments presented.  
   
 Which leads us to the elephant in the room, Laffy. One of the earliest “polls” conducted here at the P&R forum was looking to find who the biggest spammer here was. There was a character, long forgotten, who literally posted gibberish here.  He was in the running, but at the end of the day Laffy was certified as the board’s biggest spammer.  A quick look at TER posting history shows that Laffy has kept up that spam energy over a long period of time.  He skews the tenor of the board, disregarding actual statements and opinions and instead imprinting his personal delusions that all conservatives are Nazi’s. Most recently this is exposed in discussions centering around the riot on Capitol Hill. Although every conservative here denounced the violence that occurred the day of the protest, Laffy will continue to insist that conservatives here are Nazi’s who supported it. This delusion spills into any conversation on any topic, especially when his argument or position on the topic at hand crumbles. At that point, he’ll change the topic to the riot, and accuse anyone pointing out the weaknesses in his initial argument as Nazi’s, throwing in as many obscene homophobic insults as he can while he’s at it.  
   
 At the end of the day, I think this forum will continue to be a place where honest debate does occur, but it more often than not will be tinged with animosity fueled tribalism.
This is the most comprehensive and accurate post on the P&R board possibly ever!

cks175 52 Reviews 26 reads
posted
18 / 31

This is the most comprehensive and accurate post on the P&R board possibly ever!
I appreciate your take on that. Important to note that Laffy’s deranged response validates virtually every point I made.

inicky46 61 Reviews 42 reads
posted
19 / 31

Murder most of the indigenous people here, bring hundreds of thousands of Africans here as slaves and steal almost the entire Southwestern and Western US from the brown people. All by the mid-19th century.
Then we systematically repressed them and stole from them.
That's just entrepreneurship.

inicky46 61 Reviews 16 reads
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20 / 31
RespectfulRobert 34 reads
posted
22 / 31

I don't get the animosity here at times. Some of it is hot takes, and I get that, and other times it seems highly personal and vindictive. I wish Laffy toned down the Nazi remarks, and others of that ilk, but it does seem to me you are calling him out as a troll. If that is the case, why not just ignore him? He is annoying at times granted, lol, but he also brings many topics to this board that may not be normally mentioned and he always has a unique take, whether I agree with him or not. He also has the balls to regularly call out liberals/progressives/Democrats who act and talk like crazed radicals, which I believe hurt our party's electoral chances, so I give him credit there as well.

KCMOSHYGUY 11 Reviews 13 reads
posted
23 / 31

and it must not be ignored.  The atrocity of the Holocaust is taught in schools; so should the factual details of racial oppression, as a COMPLEMENTARY component to the standard history curriculum.

cks175 52 Reviews 22 reads
posted
24 / 31

is really beyond the pale. If you ever get to DC or Los Angeles, please visit the Holocaust Museums there. In New York, try the Museum of Jewish Heritage. Locally, you could visit the The Sperling Kronberg Mack Holocaust Resource Education center at Temple Beth Shalom. It’s an educational experience that might help open your eyes.

Photo from the Wall Of Remembrance at the US Holocaust museum.

cks175 52 Reviews 22 reads
posted
25 / 31

With your level of unawareness when it comes to the actual horrors of the Holocaust, you might as well identify yourself as a Holocaust denier.

Hpygolky 234 Reviews 28 reads
posted
26 / 31

Sorry but there's alot of political hatred now. I tell people that right now, at this very minute this country couldn't band together if we had another 9/11 attack. The blame game would  ensue before the last fire is out.  
I saw this build up back when Obama first got elected. I had stocks in Bank Of America (BOA). I use to go to Yahoo Finance to see how it was going. I went into the message and the hatred of Obama was everywhere, N- word this, Monkey there...conversation that had nothing to do with the stock.... I knew this was the beginning of tribalism.
So this board reflects the pulse of the nations,, although in no comparison to the Yahoo board.

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 22 reads
posted
28 / 31

Laffy---you like to sound like a tough guy all the time---tell me something. Do you think you could say these kinds of things (like "ram it up the ass") to somebody in person??!! I bet you couldn't--because all you are is a "keyboard" tough guy. I bet in a face to face confrontation you'd get your butt stomped beyond recognition!!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 30 reads
posted
29 / 31

"Here ya go, Rob" what?  What proof did you give Rob that CRT is being taught in schools NOW?
NONE!!  Your link merely described how a Virginia public school district sent a PowerPoint to teachers explaining how to explicitly implement Critical Race Theory (CRT) in the classroom in the FUTURE.

 
"Here ya go, Rob" NOTHING.  You, willy are a lying fucking weasel...and a fucking moron if you really think "Here ya go,  Rob" in any way answered Rob's question.  You're a fucking loser...but you knew that already.

inicky46 61 Reviews 31 reads
posted
30 / 31

The NEA says it's in favor of "Publicly (through existing media) convey its support for the accurate and honest teaching of social studies topics,"
"Accurate and honest teaching?"  SAVE US!!!!!!!

inicky46 61 Reviews 28 reads
posted
31 / 31

And you're too stupid to understand the yawning difference between teach actual American history and revising an entire curriculum around CRT, which isn't happening.

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