I’m sure the whinny lying left will come up with some bullshit to say Trump had nothing to do with it.

2018 = GOP

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To himself and his wealthy so called elite. Still benefitting  from Obama's eight years of hard work.He has so much time on his hand that he can fuck with footballers and tweets from dust till dawn.No financial crisis,No war,thousand of job losses by the week,people losing their homes  to foreclosure meltdown resulting trombone predatory lending,greed and corruption
 
All that's happening now is that the  sabotagers f Obama's presidency are back to work.

This article sums up the Russian puppet perfectly.

It's not like the bank knocks on your door and forces  you to to take a loan at gunpoint.  

Unlike the ACA, where citizens are forced to purchase health insurance by law or face a financial penalty.

The Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) individual-coverage requirement—often called the "individual mandate"—makes it possible to ban health insurance companies from discriminating against people with preexisting conditions while keeping insurance markets stable and functional.

Trump and other GOP leaders have made fools out of supporters like Becky.

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I'm not concerned about preexisting conditions.

Well, there's a good reason for that. There were ELEVEN Obama quarters above 4.1%.  
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Jun 30, 2015 4.46%
Mar 31, 2015 4.95%
Dec 31, 2014 4.33%
Sep 30, 2014 5.21%
Jun 30, 2014 4.71%
Dec 31, 2013 4.31%
Sep 30, 2012 4.11%
Jun 30, 2012 4.28%
Mar 31, 2012 4.83%
Dec 31, 2010 4.56%
Sep 30, 2010 4.68%

That's why Hillary lost the primary to Obama.  

The Democrats could not compete with their own success of Obama.  

That is why Trump is now President until 2024.

... that this is a typical mind set for Trump supporters.

I don't mean the position on pre-existing conditions. I'm referring to the mind set of "Everything is only about ME."  Thus as long as YOU are ok, that's all that counts.  

But it's logical that the mind set of Trump supporters should be the same as Trump's.

They are a bunch of selfish and short sided fools.

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I don't think I voted for Trump, or contributed to his campaign.

 I do find it useless to be concerned with other people's problems.  

When those problems do not pertain to my situation in life.  

I feel that is a commonsense approach  to life, and feel no need to apologize for my opinion.  

If you want charity call the Pope.

your source for that ?

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/barack-obama-now-only-president-history-never-have-year-3-gdp-growth

 
http://checkyourfact.com/2017/08/31/fact-check-trump-claims-gdp-never-hit-3-under-obama/

 
2018 = GOP

I received a PM from someone asking me about the GDP numbers I posted. In the current discussion, I think there might be some nuanced difference between stuff like GDP, Real GDP, GDP per capita and maybe some other tabulated GDP data. When fact-checking Laffy, the first page I came upon was:
http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-quarter  
US GDP Growth Rate by Quarter, Source: US Bureau of Economic Analysis
and that's the data I posted above.  According to that table, Q2 2018 GDP growth is 4.74%; Obama had 3 quarters above that.  
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The link I was sent was truncated, but I think this is it:  
http://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/
Quarterly growth of the real GDP in the United States from 2011 to 2018
Source: (paywall)  
That histogram does not yet include Q2 2018. I assume 4.1 is the "Real GDP" growth being quoted.  The chart shows 4 Obama quarters of Real GDP growth above 4.1%.  
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The discrepancy seems to be "GDP" vs "Real GDP" or some other accounting detail that I can't figure out.  Reading further, some economists think that the last quarter was boosted by countries contracting to buy US goods, especially soybeans, before the tariffs kicked in. Those economists are predicting that the post-tariff GDP quarter will not be so good. Brazilian soybeans are now in great demand.

Hmmm that is quite a difference.

You say
“The discrepancy seems to be "GDP" vs "Real GDP" or some other accounting detail that I can't figure out.”

The discrepancy is sources/entities  other than BEA use voo-doo math and methods to calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit.

1. The OP (followme) did not include a source so anyone wanting to read more about it had to take what they could find.
2. Then there were some posts that did not discuss the GDP numbers.
3. Laffy pointed out the Obama had 4 Qs above 4.1% but provided no source.  
4. I posted a list of GDP growth rate numbers but didn't include the source. It was a table of GDP, not Real GDP.  
4-PM. Someone PMed me about the numbers I posted.
5. I posted an explanation and provided sources for anyone to check. There is GPD, Real GPD, GDP per capita and all sorts of other tabulated data. It is very important to compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges or apples to barrels of oil.  My post incorrectly compared apples (Real GPD) to oranges (GDP).  
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People should provide sources when they post stuff to better avoid the sort of problems we've had in this (and many other) threads.
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6. Because of moderation delays, posts sometimes show up out of sequence. followme asked for sources but my reply, with sources, was already in the queue, hours earlier.  
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7. followme provided this link: http://checkyourfact.com/2017/08/31/fact-check-trump-claims-gdp-never-hit-3-under-obama/   in his post where he said, "entities ... calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." In this case, that fact check page notes that Trump was comparing a (then) recent QUARTERLY GDP growth statistic to ANNUAL GPD growth stats under Obama.  Although what Trump said (he quoted his Q2 2017 quarterly stat and the annual Obama stat) was true, it was not correct to compare them: "These numbers, however, are not really comparable to the second-quarter growth touted by Trump. Quarterly data compares the change in GDP from the preceding quarter, while yearly data compares the change in GDP from the preceding year."  
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The quarterly GDP figures fluctuate a lot and can be affected by seasonal influences and bursts or busts of economic activity. As mentioned, some articles discussing the Q2 2018 GDP growth mentioned the "surge in exports ahead of retaliatory tariffs from China helped drive economic growth." Here is one: http://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/us-gdp-q2-2018.html  Other articles expect an export "bust" to show up in subsequent quarters.
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Overall, what one hopes for is long term growth.  
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(To revisit followme's comment: "entities [POTUS is an entity] ... calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." Trump is a self-admitted liar who JUST MAKES UP SHIT. It goes back decades in his business dealings; it is perpetuated in his role as POTUS.  Here is one site: http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/ )

Number 7 …….You are a liar
To quote you  

“7. followme provided this link: http://checkyourfact.com/2017/08/31/fact-check-trump-claims-gdp-never-hit-3-under-obama/   in his post where he said, "entities ... calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." “

In the post that I provided that link I did NOT Say….”, "entities ... calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." “

 
Please do continue to embarrass yourself with a reply and I challenge you to make it longer and more tedious and mundane that your last one

You’re Welcome  
2018 = GOP

 
BTW Trump won get over it

Sorry. I was scrolling up and down the page while cutting and pasting from different posts in the thread. Obviously, I thought I had cut both quotes from the same post.  
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The link to http://checkyourfact.com/2017/08/31/fact-check-trump-claims-gdp-never-hit-3-under-obama/ was in one followme post. Then there was a reply from impposter (me). Then came followme's reply to impposter that said, "The discrepancy is sources/entities  other than BEA use voo-doo math and methods to calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." I removed the BEA / economic specifics and generalized that to "entities ... calculate a result they want to fit their agenda., or just make up shit." Trump is such an entity.
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The continuity is there. The intent is there. Followme's link calls out Trump for incorrectly trying to correlate quarterly to annual economic data in order to make himself (Trump) look better and Obama look worse. Followme then criticizes those who "calculate a result they want to fit their agenda" (e.g., calculate a comparison between Quarterly and Annual) and added a comment about those who "just make up shit." Trump's agenda is himself. Trump does those things.  
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After Helsinki, Trump tried to clarify "would" for "wouldn't" which DRASTICALLY changes his meaning, subsequently muddled again by his own ad libbing. I have a simpler clarification: follow this thread and the continuity. I said "same post" (a mistake followme considers so egregious that he calls it a lie) and it is clear that the quotes are accurate even though they are from two separate posts connected by one intervening post.

Yes your reply was long but not longer than the one before it,

And was not more tedious and mundane….I’d say about the same.

Even though you failed to meet my challenge and are rather tedious and mundane you are somewhat amusing and good for a few laughs.

 
Tell ya what………I’ll give you another chance to meet the challenge.

First off you didn't receive a PM "asking" about your numbers, you received a PM that flat out told you that your numbers were WRONG, and why they were wrong.

 
I am not going to go so far as to call you a liar as FM did, because I do believe it was an honest mistake rooted in ignorance, not a deliberate effort to deceive, unlike a couple of other posters here. It is interesting however that all your "mistakes" tend to be on the side of making Trump look worse, not better. What are the odds that EVERY mistake you make has the effect of making the object of your derision look worse and wrongly makes him look like the liar?  

 
That said, there is no "nuanced" difference between Real GDP and the numbers you used. The fact of the matter is that you are a neophyte where it comes to financial matters and what is as simple as 2+2 = 4 to some of us, is complicated and nuanced to you. How can we have a "debate" when you don't even understand the basics? There are other subjects that you are perfectly capable of making a reasoned, fact based, and intelligent argument either for or against, but money matters simply aren't one of them, I might as well debate Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez on the subject.

 
Lastly, those economists you cite who believe the numbers were back loaded because of impending tariffs are WRONG and have been proven so once all the stats rolled in, The breakout number was driven mainly by consumer spending with exports being only a minor factor. These same economists are also the very same people who agreed with Obama that the days of 3% annual GDP growth were over and that it was foolish to even hope for such a number ever again. Obviously they are looking for any excuse they can find to support their dire (and wrong) predictions.

Because all dumbass Donnie did so far is give 35% tax cut to himself and his wealthy  buddies.And his  idea of imminent  domain border wall destroying  homes families  and their  businesses  on the south coast.He even have time on his hands to fuck with ball players.
His dumbass tariffs causing layoff and business closures  across America. Using quotas rather than tariffs is a better option.But a guy who did not earn his college credits would not know it - thanks to his wealthy daddy.