Turns out that the taepodong that failed within the first 40 seconds was aimed at Hawaii.  This is not a provocation, rather declaration of war against the US plain and simple.  The very fact that a US enemy with nukes aimed a ICBM at US territory is enough for a massive retaliation.

One paper in Japan reported that.  Let's get some confirmation.

So help me, this world would be destroyed to Hell and Back in a Heartbeat if people like you and my bizniz partner were in control of the codes.
For one thing... there is adequate data available to spin the possibility that they aimed south rather than take a chance of landfall on alaskan, ie american soil.

not that i believe that for a second of course... but nonetheless...
are you fucking out of your mind? massive retaliation? and do what? wipe out the worlds supply of kimchi and Hyundai spare parts, and prove to the world once and for all that America has truly become the bad guys under conservative Republican Leadership. Republican Leadership. now THERE'S an oxymoron.

Dude, get a grip.

NK is a piece of dirt. we only need one well-aimed bullet, anyway.

It is a damn luckey thang that it blowed it self up in the See of Janpan before it even goott herer. But those godammmm Koreans peoples are  thinking all the time. How ca n we diestroy the Amerocam peop;e witjpout too much hassle?

For those at the beginning of the thread (who appear to be hyperventilating), the long-range Taepodong-2 missile failed 40 seconds into its flight. When a missile fails, it could be for any of a thousand reasons, including its guidance. Deducing the 'intentions' of Kim Jong Il based on a failed missile launch would challenge Sherlock Holmes...and we're not talking here about why the dog didn't bark in the night.

No one likes us
I don't know why.
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try.
But all around even our old friends put us down.
Let's drop the big one and see what happens.

We give them money
But are they grateful?
No they're spiteful
And they're hateful.
They don't respect us so let's surprise them;
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them.

Now Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old.
Africa's far too hot,
And Canada's too cold.
And South America stole our name.
Let's drop the big one; there'll be no one left to blame us.

Well, boom goes London,
And boom Paris.
More room for you
And more room for me.
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town.
Oh, how peaceful it'll be;
We'll set everybody free;
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby,
There'll be Italian shoes for me.
They all hate us anyhow,
So let's drop the big one now.
Let's drop the big one now.

before we start talking like that.

den wE Cam NegOtiatimate wid the fukrs that dUne It

its who Da smiRT peeple du it

Since when did Hawaii become a US Territory.  Did I miss something, I thought Hawaii was the 50th State. Or has Emerald had too much Vodka?

Are you channelling Randy Newman?

we ought to have nuked the no longer existent USSR sometime in Eisenhower's 2nd term.

And we ought to have nuked the PRC around, oh, I'd say 1967.  oud have deprived us of some amusing footage of Red Guard rampages however.

And since we point nukes at a few guys [but not as many as before], would not "they" likewise be justified at looking upon this as an act of war and attempting to nuke us?

See where this type of thinking gets you?  And doesn't get you?

Not to minimize the posibilities of NK nukes, but this is like commiting suicide because you're afraid of dying.  It's time we took a bunch of slow deep breaths, let our collective pulse settle, and try to think.

We can always kill them next week if we have to.

After all GW DID blow the living shit out of Iraq for alleged WMDs that never existed. A fair administration of this policy would demand that since we KNOW NK has these types of weapons against our wishes they should be vaporized for their insolence.

PREEMPTIVE WAR!

Uh...oh yeah.

I'd SOoner4 See 1 miLLiON Amercns Get der friKn AssEs nukked b4 I'd DO oNe of Dem PremedicatTed warZ...

NO PrEMEDIcatED Warz!

In tHe olD dAys, I alwyz lEt "the uddEr guY sMAsh My fAce in First bEfOre I tooked A swING, tHAT WAY i KNOwED hE Was fER sHER IN DA FIghtiN Mood

the abject fucked up state of US Intel has been fixed now that they know someone is actually looking at it instead of getting hummed.

some blowhard, or actually starting something bigger than the threat.

The most reliable way to know these things is either have a wife hooked up with a good astrologer, OR have friends with lots of catchy phrases, like "evil-doers".  WhatEVER you do, don't be listening to anybody else, because then people might think you can't get it up by yourself.