If the "FDA knows that Ivermectin works" prove it. If "everyone knew HCQ worked," prove it. And the fact that everyone DID know antibiotics and steroids work does NOT prove your other assertions.
Then you throw up a different bunch of bullshit and decide that's "The central question." Since when? Not in your OP.
So what we actually have here is more of your lying bullshit clothed in assertions of what you "know."
Well, you know what I KNOW? Willy is a lying weasel.
I guess that good ole “horse dewormer” works after all. Who knew?
Americans died because the Dems were telling people it's horse-dewormer and not for human use? Now that Covid is back for the summer and Americans are wise to the vaccine scam, treatments will be favored in the future since prevention did not work. I'm an example. I got the two Pfizer shots early in 2021, then the booster in November, and still caught Covid in January of 2022. I totally bought into the Dem bullshit and even posted on this board that I got the vaccine. How stupid do I feel now? VERY!!!
The ruling in no way suggests the FDA approved the use of Ivermectin for Covid OR believes it's effective for that use. It merely said the FDA could not forbid the prescription of Ivermectin for Covid because the agency had approved the drug and could not legally restrict its being prescribed for other uses.
Stop lying, Willy.
Stop being a bobblehead, CDL. And, yes, you are VERY stupid, but not for getting the vaccine. I got it in all forms, had no adverse reactions and still got Covid last January. But I got a case that was so mild it was like a weak cold for two days. I'd call that a win.
During the pandemic, the FDA was threatening doctors who dared prescribed ivermectin. The way the system is supposed to work is that doctors are free to treat their patients however they see fit, and report back their findings to the FDA so everyone else can know what those doctors are seeing in the field. During the pandemic the FDA tried to flip this idea on it’s head, dictate what treatments could and could not be made, threaten doctors who didn’t tow the line, all while ignoring what doctors were saying. A coalition of doctors threatened to sue the FDA over this, and the FDA’s position was so indefensible, that one of their lawyers had to say, you’re right, doctors can do whatever they want. That is a huge victory. Especially what we’re now finding out about the vaccines.
That's NOT what your own link actually says. It simply says the FDA must let doctors prescribe it. It does NOT say the FDA believes it works.
Stop lying, Willy.
They’ve always known it works. Everyone knew it worked. Every single person who studied it knew it worked. That was never the issue. Just as everyone knew HCQ worked. Just as everyone knew that antibiotics worked. Just as everyone knew steroids worked to reduce run away inflammation. Just as everyone knew that ventilators were a bad idea. Just as everyone knew that masks don’t work. You keep running around in circles Nicky trying to debate whether or not some guidance made sense or didn’t when you don’t have the expertise to figure it out. That’s no knock on you, almost everyone doesn’t have that expertise.
The central question that you have to consider is the following: Has financial incentives made regulatory agencies untrustworthy? Has government become untrustworthy? Does Big Pharma influence the FDA and CDC so heavily that all three of them are untrustworthy?
A person who’s smarter than you doesn’t make them honest or trustworthy. If someone is willing to poison someone else’s kids with a vaccine they don’t need in order to protect their bottom line, then you need not pay attention to a single thing they have to say.
If the "FDA knows that Ivermectin works" prove it. If "everyone knew HCQ worked," prove it. And the fact that everyone DID know antibiotics and steroids work does NOT prove your other assertions.
Then you throw up a different bunch of bullshit and decide that's "The central question." Since when? Not in your OP.
So what we actually have here is more of your lying bullshit clothed in assertions of what you "know."
Well, you know what I KNOW? Willy is a lying weasel.
Suppose you’re a scientist. You want to make money by publishing some research that finds something. To find something you gotta publish some dataset. Say you want to test ibuprofen to see if it’s an effective pain reliever. The year is 1970 and ibuprofen has not yet come to market. Aspirin makers don’t want ibuprofen to come to market because they don’t want the competition. So an aspirin manufacturer comes to you and asks you to come up with a study. Everyone today knows that you need say 400mg of ibuprofen for it to work, but scientist in 1970 studies ibuprofen’s effectiveness but limits the dose to 100mg. The results of the study show that the effectiveness of ibuprofen has not been proven so the drug never comes to market. Your findings in your study were weak because you purposely chose 100mg so it would appear it didn’t work. You P-hacked your study.
That’s basically what happened with Ivermectin. Not just once either. But over and over with big studies backed by the biggest players. If they were so sure that it didn’t work, then why did they deliberately design the research to make it look like it failed? That’s how you know we were being lied to.
…but that doesn’t change the central question that should be burning in your mind: Is the government trustworthy?
Willy is NEVER trustworthy.
...reading willy's post and link and AGREEING with willy when he wrote: "Now that Covid is back...(Ivermectin) treatments will be favored..."
If CDL actually believes willy's link that the article really says "that good ole 'horse dewormer' works after all" then I whole heartedly agree with CDL that he feels VERY stupid now. Read the article again, CDL.
The evidence that Ivermectin works for treating Covid just keeps piling in. The amount of evidence is now monumental. That evidence still hasn’t even been reviewed by the FDA as far as anyone can tell. Meanwhile, their entire campaign against Ivermectin came from just 4 reports of people taking the livestock version, this while you don’t get a similar reaction over overdosing on ibuprofen and that happens 12,000 times a year. But at least the FDA did delete the comment that Ivermectin wasn’t an antiviral drug when over 20 studies shows it’s effective against a wide range of viruses.
But the funniest thing is when the FDA’s lackeys try to do their dirty work and try to do a joke of a study that shows Ivermectin doesn’t work. And when that study gets peer reviewed and shows over 100 egregious errors in how the study was done, the study’s author sends off angry emails cussing and swearing at the reviewers like he was doing an impersonation of Laffy. Comedy gold right there.
Maybe I'm giving willy too much credit for being able to read an article and understand what it is about but I believe he knows his OP is a LIE.
willy's post claims that the linked article "proves" that Ivermectin really works for COVID-19 but the article says nothing of the kind. All the article says is that doctors are free to prescribe Ivermectin. The article explicitly says that the government continues to advise people NOT to take Ivermectin to treat COVID-19.
willy's "breaking news" is so insignificant that no credible news source has mentioned it. He had to scrounge up a far right rag and even then he LIED about what the article said.
Where are all the other righties agreeing with willy's interpretation of the article?
The FDA statement was an attempt to kill a lawsuit brought against the FDA by doctors. They did this for the obvious reason that if the lawsuit moved forward an investigation would show just how improper the FDA’s actions were.
...neither one of them has a single word indicating that Ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19 or to put it in your words: "...that good ole “horse dewormer” works after all."
Stop lying, willy, you have little enough credibility left as is.
This is precisely why the FDA had to back down. Because their position was, in fact, ILLEGAL. It is ILLEGAL for the FDA to block doctors from using an approved drug for off label purposes. There's an entire class of drugs that are used this way, from aspirin to steroids. Medical doctors know what they're doing. They don't need a bureaucrat to explain to them what the proper practice of medicine is. This link is about a legal reality. Not about the evidence that ivermectin works. That evidence is, in fact, MONUMENTAL. If you'd like me to give you some of that evidence I'd be happy to, but it would require a whole hell of a lot of posts, and very very long ones at that. But at this point, the evidence that Ivermectin works for treating Covid is as clear as the fact that gravity exists, that evolution is real, and that the earth revolves around the sun. When you look at the evidence, it is simply undeniable. Would you like to see just some of that evidence?
...neither one of them has a single word indicating that Ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19 or to put it in your words: "...that good ole “horse dewormer” works after all."
willy - you started this thread with the 'breaking news' "that good ole 'horse dewormer' works after all.
You added a link as 'definitive proof' that Ivermectin works to treat COVID-19. You titled your link:
"I told you so. I told you so. I told you so." willy - you told us NOTHING. There was not one word in your OP link that proved Ivermectin was effective in treating COVID-19.
When I called you on the fact that your OP was a LIE, you replied with a second link allegedly proving that Ivermectin worked for COVID-19.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/really-bigp-431797?page=1
Really, willy? You posted two links but neither one of them has a single word indicating that Ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19 or to put it in your words: "...that good ole “horse dewormer” works after all."
Stop lying, willy, you have little enough credibility left as is.