Here's the time for trump redeem himself. Which honestly I think he'll do better
But anyways, She's now calling out his manhood on this.  
And "I wanna hear more from her" crowd should push for this or you'd think.
Let's see what the tough guy does....bet he whines about FOX
And remember, CNN was very nice to trump so he can't hide behind that it was the 3 against 1 nonsense.
I wonder if they'll have open mics..??

He says he'd love to do it but can't because voting has already begun. Huh????
I dare any righty on this board to try to defend that as a legitimate excuse.
Trump really should have waiting until someone on his campaign (and it surely isn't him) could come up with a more credible excuse.
Oh! I know!!! BONE SPURS!!!!

every interview since the last race and voters are starting to turn on her lack of substantive answers to their questions.   Why should Trumps throw her a life raft?  

I wrote this here nine days ago:  
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"If Kamala polling shows she needs a debate she'll have to accept Trump conditions. If she thinks she doesn't need a debate, she'll never offer serious concessions. Trump has 10 years on the world political stage. Kamala remains the unknown. And ABCs terrible debate questions failed to draw out Kamala policies. Nobody knows from day to day what she stands for.  Everyone knows what Trump stands for.  But Kamala's own polling will decide the issue."
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It's clear her internal polling is showing that she is not reaching independents and the only people attending her events or watching her appearances are loyal Dems.
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Anyhow, Trump offered three debates, first at Fox, the one at ABC, and another at NBC.  She ran away.  Now when she sees she hasn't secured the win, she tries to change the rules again.  

Since they are closer to actual journalists than anyone else on Faux News.

Polls like Rasmussen and AtlasIntel seem to show that the debate didn't really move the needle.  So it seems like a risk with no upside.
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However, if there were an honest set of moderators who actually would follow up on non-answers, I think it would go badly for Kamala.  So I'd like to see it.  But at this point it is just giving Kamala a chance to reach independents that aren't interested.   She had three chances and she ran away.

Silver, 538, CNN, RCP, etc all have her at 270+ EVs. All the betting markets that the RCP follows are all in her favor. The guru of presidential predictions, Lichtman, has picked her to win. If you want to be delusional and tell yourself he is leading, when both right and left aggregate polling institutions says he is not, be my guest.

Republican strategists are all over the airwaves saying he has to. He is in deep shit. He is only looking weak and he will crawl back to debate her and lose again. This is great for her in the short term too as he looks so scared of her. Remember the "anytime, anywhere" Trump re: debates? What happened to that guy? lol

Right, she's got it locked up.  That's why she wants a debate.  Do you even hear yourself?

Robert never said "she's got it locked up." He only said she's leading in some important polls.
Are you even dimly aware of the difference?
Try telling the truth for once.

1. Real time fact checking.  
2. Follow-up on non-answers.  
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I.e., it is MUCH more important to address FALSE and MISLEADING answers than simple non-answers.

That's for the candidates to do.  

I have consistently said this is a very close race that Trump could still win, but a race that almost everyone agrees she is leading as of now. He knows that. He is desperate so he just lies and lies. He really is no different than Trump at this point.

So why does she want to debate?

And she is exuding confidence about that. It is an amazing show of strength. Just look at all the Rs saying he needs to debate her again. Why would they be saying that if they thought he was in a good spot? He is not. He is losing and you know that but cant admit it. Not sure why. I admitted Trump was likely to beat Joe a few months ago. It's not hard Lester unless you are engaging in hero worship.  
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He's not doing another one. I'm kinda surprised but it is what it is now
He'll be known as a coward for the next couple of weeks.
Now when undecided want to hear more from Harris, all she has say is "Well he doesn't want to do a one on one interview with me"
Not a good look

So was Kamala a coward when she turned down the Fox and NBC debates? I don't recall you mentioning that.

If FOX was somewhat legitimate then I’d say she should go. But really who takes FOX seriously? FOX just isn’t a serious outlet.. sorry
Shit it might as well be TMZ
Don’t recall the NBC.. refresh my memory

In normal times, a candidate can fact check the other on the occasional, simpler mistakes: "I voted FOR that bill, not against it as you just claimed." "My state was 47th in that category 8 years ago but we are now 25th under my leadership."  
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Trump's lies are so numerous and so extraordinary that the burden to fact check EXCEEDS the opponents response time or rebuttal time.  "They allow abortions after birth." "There are NO POST-BIRTH ABORTIONS ANYWHERE." "Yes, there are. I saw it on Fox." "It is against the law in every state." "They do after birth abortions in North Carolina." (Lie upon lie upon lie ...)
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"The illegal immigrants are eating people's pets!" "No, they aren't." "YES! They are! The people told us!" "But what they told you isn't true." "It IS true! Neener, neener!" ... (Lie upon lie upon lie ...)
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There are too many, too bizarre, too egregious lies for a normal candidate to have to refute in a "non-debate debate" format. In addition, there is an old adage that surely applies to Trump:
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"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."

Cause he didn’t want to face Kamala Harris😂😂
C’mon … cute..no??

He advised Trump not to do the debate not because Trump is leading, because Jennings knows he is not, but because Trump has a propensity to lose debates! Talk about having no faith in your guy! Here in PA Team Harris is killing him with calling him scared to face her again. That really will hurt Trump and drive him nuts. She is baiting him into getting in the ring again. His ego will force him to flip flop and he will lose to her again. lol.

when it's actually Trump doing that. He's a pussy.

Fester is so excited about the latest NY Times polls he's posting about it on multiple threads.
Calm down, Fester.

Trumps never looked or glazed at Harris the whole time, even when she said “Putin will eat you for lunch”..
He glazed down like the sulking brat he’s always been. Showed weakness and vulnerability…. So really that’s why there’ll be no second debate.
Trump apologists will have to admit that deep down inside that he got his heart rip off. If they’re honest with themselves… they know.
Trump even knew he got his ass whipped. No one goes the the spin room AFTER  a debate…. Unless you know you lost .
And  Trump knows he lost .  
Sure she got a bump in polls and she’s probably solidified her position within her base. But it left black eye on Trump and now he’s promising the world if he wins.
Vappers I heard are now thrilled

Fact checkers on FOX would have more to call Trump out on than Harris.   When you count the lies in the last debate, Harris won by a landslide 21-7, but she wasn't checked by the mods the way Trump was.  

1. Fact-check ALL participants.
2. Follow-up on non-answers from ALL participants.

And said to trump, "You won't be needing these anymore".
Just look at how demoralized he is, the face, the eyes....Ii don't think he'll ever recover from that.

Too bad most people don't agree with him:
"Debate watchers said, 63% to 37%, that Harris turned in a better performance onstage in Philadelphia."

What I said back then..."If its SOTU Biden he'll mop the floor with trump"...little did we know we'd get brain dead Biden. But oh well
And I said "we are now, living in a guarded, community estate."....But thanks I forgot to add that it is gated and it is an ESTATE...so show some respect
So, sure lets go back 3.8 years, where were we? Do I count the Jan 6th coup??
Biden inherit a mess. Country/world was just barely coming out of a world pandemic. Country needed direction and a steady hand. That's why trump lost...he couldn't comprehend what was going on, it was above his pay grade.
Are things perfect, no but considering all that's happened and what led to this. I'm ok on where we're at. It'll get better after the election....But my thinking is, it could have been worse with trump.  
And just off the top of my head, if trump pushes these crazy ass tariffs, of 100/200 percent on goods....we'll be fucked, And he said he'll do without congress...you should be concerned about that
Now, I have to ask...do you really think trump did a good job on that debate, be honest, straight hombre to hombre.

Also, the debate wasn't 3 on 1 unless you're a pussy who hates the truth. Unlike the first debate where Trump had a free hand to lie and not get called on it, the rules for the last debate did include real-time fact checking. Trump knew that, lied anyway and then didn't like it when the moderators called it out. That's all that happened.

Trump told Biden that he never fires anyone, and yet there's now a problem with the turn over on Harris's staff...Help me Rhonda
And Just so we're clear, trump had major turn over on KEY cabinet members. How's that squaring with you?
And this whistle blower is pure nonsense. You prep for debates on the normal key issue that are always on debates. Economy, foreign and domestic policy. immigration, health care,and the personal attacks get filtered in.
So if you're debating trump trump, its easy. Just trigger him and he'll loose his shit. So there wasn't a need to get inside info. In  the debate, she was playing chess and he's playing tiddlywinks. But if you seriously believe that it was 3 against 1 and that's the feeling that hard core trump believers believe then ...no sense trying to tell you otherwise

But you're fine with Trump?
Hypocrite much???

And I’ll bet most will support het, can Trump say the same?  
He’ll his own VP , Pence won’t support him.. And most of all his past cabinet members won’t support him… C’mon… get real.  
And I have to say , the bullying by Harris … and Trump doesn’t bully😂😂😂
Stop it

"FOX would have more to call Trump out on than Harris" is was a continuation of the sentence that started with the headline.  I think you probably know this, but just in case. . . . . .

...you are full of shit when you claim that Harris told 21 lies to Trump's 7 at their debate.  Got link?

Because SHE KICKED HIS ASS!
It reminded me of the greatest line in political debate history - when Lloyd Bentsen replied to Dan Quayle's comparison of himself to JFK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PCsXqbSZxc

The people are watching to see blood on the sand, and Kamala gave them that, but an hour later, what did they learn about Kamala's policies and plans that they didn't already know?  How did she earn their trust that she will do a good job if elected?  The fact is, she didn't and they still don't know her policies.  That's where Trump figuratively slipped the stiletto into her kidney while no one noticed.  The weak-minded still think they watched a Kamala win.   Now, its Kamala with the slow wound that is bleeding out voters, not Trump.

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He basically admits Harris beat Trump but then claims it was just an illusion. Hilarious.
PS: She did discuss certain policies, like tax credits for parents and grants to small business start ups.
But I guess CDL was distracted by Haitians eating dogs and cats.
Hint: when your words become the butt of jokes, you're toast.

There is scant evidence of a debate bounce in the poll of voters, there was a bounce in the betting markets but those are emotional thermometers.  Their whole campaign is geared around avoiding being too specific about policy.  They've given the vague notion that she's moved to the center by abandoning practically all of her previously stated positions.  
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So combined with her off script performance, lack of policy clarity, non-existent accomplishments in four years, all they have is the joy luck club.  Based on polling, her entire campaign hope hinges on women motivated on abortion.  

voters confirm Trump beat Hillary in the debate, and independents will be where this election is won or lost.  Yuck it up while you can.  There are dark and gloomy days ahead for the Koolaid-drinking Dems.  

Hillary? "Trump beat Hillary in the debate."?  
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Maybe CDL meant to write, "Trump beat Birdbrain Nikki Haley in the debate." or maybe, "Trump beat Sloppy Chris Christie in the debate." or maybe, "Trump beat Meatball Ron DeSantis in the debate."  
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Or maybe CDL forgot to add LOL to his post.