Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren had a meeting

Warren called it a    Pow-Wow

 

Getting interesting...that dem clown-car that is

If that does happen, that would tell me the internal polling is very bad for Hills. No way Biden runs if the internal polls are in conflict with the public ones.

I think Biden is smart to wait to see if this email thing blows over. He would also be smart to pick Warren as his running mate and announce that when and if he enters.

Imo, libs would flock to that ticket and run from Hills. I wonder what the libs here think of that assessment.

But if the repubs can't beat that dynamic duo, lol, they should crawl out of DC and see if Trump will hire them. LOL

but I do agree that Biden will only throw his hat into the ring if the "smart money" says Hillary has problems. Whether those problems be her legal ones, or if the rest of the country feels like I do, ie the more they see of her, the less they like her.

and to be fair, the very same could (and most likely will) be said about Jeb. He came out strong and actually showed some actual charisma, but is starting to look very unsure of himself, and seems to be wilting to the stronger personality which right now is Donald Trump. He just doesn't look very presidential lately.

He needs to look, act, talk presidential and I agree, right now he doesn't look good.

Trump has a near monopoly on the media right now and there is nothing Bush can do about that. But that will change drastically.

Bush money, experienced political team, infrastructure, winnowing of the field, his record, etc will eventually destroy Trump, imo

but you agree that he hasn't look good the last few weeks.

It's still very early, and Bush has a dynasty behind him, but what should worry him is that Trump is actually starting to sound less like a sideshow and more like an actual leader. I still wouldn't put a dime on him to win, but I don't think I would want to be booking action at long odds against him either.

... I think it is specious to try to put the Dems in the same "clown-car" category as the GOP this time around. Really.

Biden does have the resume. Elizabeth Warren is well-liked by the Democrats, and surprisingly respected by the GOP mainstream. If Biden does announce, he will get a strong push as well as a major bump in the polls. Elizabeth Warren is no Sarah Palin either. Shes a smart woman with a long resume and a former Harvard professor.  

If Biden becomes the DEM nominee, and he picks Warren to be his running mate, I'll go with Joe

As much as I despise the Hildabeast, not only do I think she can beat old Crazy Uncle Joe, I actually she'd be better at the job, despite me disagreeing with her on just about everything.

Warren is not stupid, but she is yet another one of the Harvard elite who have deep socialist roots and a hatred for the private sector. It's one thing to want to rein in big business, but some people seem to hate all business.

I agree with your subject line and think that hillworie is in the process of beating herself.

As for Joe and liz, My opinion is that during their Pow-Wow, they agreed that if joe gets the nomination she will be his VP candidate and if elected he will only do one term and support her for Pres. in 2020.  

If/when joe gets in the race no doubt liz will strongly support him and vigorously campaign for him and will be helping hillwhorie beat herself. though liz will not be in the primary debates she will be going at hillwhorie non stop.

There is no doubt, in my opinion, that liz is looking at being the first female President.

 
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She probably could and would beat Joe in the primaries. But she was leading in 2008 too sand look how well that worked out for her.

I was specifically referring to the General Election. He doesn't have the baggage Hillary does at this juncture, even if he is sort of stuck in a "Humphrey" (remember when Humphrey was defeated in the primaries by George McGovern in 1972? He lost not because of his policies, not because of McGoverns policies, but because of his association with LBJ). I think by the time election season rolls around, the American voting public will be unwilling to accept another 4 years of a second Monarchical or Imperial presidency. We've had 16 years of it since Bush was annointed in 2001. Bush was a royal puppet, and Obama has reigned in an aloof and detached manner, imho. Biden is no less a dynasty politician in his home state of Delaware, but I've always liked him. I wish he had more of an exhilarating personna because we need someone dynamic who can inspire and show real leadership.

The only one doing that at the moment, despite the fluffery and superficiality is Donald Trump. WTF!!!