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bigguy30 343 reads
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Posted By: Laffy
Sure is odd the Right keeps crying he's the "worst President ever" when he was able to get 200 nations to agree on this climate deal.  
   
 http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/paris-climate-final-agreement-216714  
   
 I know, I know......you'll all whine, "It's a horrible deal" just like you all did when he was able to get our allies together for the Iran deal.  
   
 Sure is odd that a "certain candidate" brags and brags and brags and brags he's a "great deal maker" when more and more of our allies want nothing to do with him while Obama actually does get deals done with our allies.  
   
 Must be jealousy.....especially after their hero Georgie made the entire world hate us after the Iraq Disaster.......  
   
 Obama gets major victory after major victory (Obamacare, gay marriage, Iran deal, this climate deal, etc),  it's no wonder the Tea Baggers are so ANGRY all the time........

HONDA 153 Reviews 404 reads
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2 / 30

Not! We still have the ISIS menace.

RRO2610 51 Reviews 324 reads
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3 / 30

if our our Congress would approve/ratify/annoint/hire the scores of leadership positions long ago made by the Pres. In the GOP's endless fervor to impede ANYTHING good attempted or done by BHO they're delaying the appointment of the guy chosen to head the below effort.

  https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-finance/Terrorist-Finance-Tracking/Pages/tftp.aspx

  This is one of the big reasons why "party politics" is bad.

pot/kettle 301 reads
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4 / 30

Major victory after major victory, huh?

Obamacare was (and still is) the furthest thing it could be from a victory.  Some minor wins within the deal have been blown away by the huge losses (high cost, jobs lost, small businesses shut down).

Gay marriage, you say?  Obama had nothing to do with that other than to be a late "evolver" on the whole issue.

Iran deal.  Oh, you mean the deal that has been harshly criticized not just by Republicans but also by many people in his very own party?

This climate deal?  Sure, it may be an accomplishment but the whole impetus behind Obama and his team pushing this so hard was to try to deflect the criticism of the horrendous job he has done dealing with terrorism and other threats to our nation.

Yeah, he's done it again alright.  Once again he's proven himself to be one of the weakest executives ever to inhabit the Oval Office.

But there is one thing he apparently is good at.  That is being able to fool you.  Of course, those of us on this board know that fooling you is certainly not hard and nothing to brag about . . .

bigguy30 284 reads
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5 / 30

When are you and the others going to open your eyes and get serious?
So ISIS is not the only menace or terrorists problem facing this country!
This President at least had the guts to give the order killing Osama Bin Laden and other terror leaders including ISIS!
 

Posted By: HONDA
Not! We still have the ISIS menace.  
   
 

FatVern 333 reads
posted
6 / 30

Laffy thinks that he is going to somehow benefit from U.S. international policy.

I challenge Laffy, or anyone to explain how this deal will improve their life.
Posted By: Laffy
Sure is odd the Right keeps crying he's the "worst President ever" when he was able to get 200 nations to agree on this climate deal.  
   
 http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/paris-climate-final-agreement-216714  
   
 I know, I know......you'll all whine, "It's a horrible deal" just like you all did when he was able to get our allies together for the Iran deal.  
   
 Sure is odd that a "certain candidate" brags and brags and brags and brags he's a "great deal maker" when more and more of our allies want nothing to do with him while Obama actually does get deals done with our allies.  
   
 Must be jealousy.....especially after their hero Georgie made the entire world hate us after the Iraq Disaster.......  
   
 Obama gets major victory after major victory (Obamacare, gay marriage, Iran deal, this climate deal, etc),  it's no wonder the Tea Baggers are so ANGRY all the time........

DUANE 33 Reviews 311 reads
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7 / 30

"This President at least had the guts to give the order killing Osama Bin Laden and other terror leaders including ISIS! "

HONDA 153 Reviews 296 reads
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8 / 30

........which is our main ally in the Middle East. To solve Islamic terrorism worldwide we must cut off the head of the snake, Saudi Arabia.

Posted By: bigguy30
When are you and the others going to open your eyes and get serious?  
 So ISIS is not the only menace or terrorists problem facing this country!  
 This President at least had the guts to give the order killing Osama Bin Laden and other terror leaders including ISIS!  
   
   
Posted By: HONDA
Not! We still have the ISIS menace.  
     
   


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quadseasonal 27 Reviews 313 reads
posted
9 / 30

IMO, After failing to find any penalties for non compliance, the deal looks more like a feel good outline than a policy.
 
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GaGambler 316 reads
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10 / 30

When it was announced I was worried it might be yet another wealth redistribution plan that would hit me in the pocket book, but in fact it is nothing but hot air itself and about as likely to be followed as Iran is likely to adhere to the so-called nuclear deal with them.

DUANE 33 Reviews 308 reads
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11 / 30

"If it had gone badly, he probably would have not been re-elected as it could have totally blown up in our faces."  

So this takes guts?  OMG he risked re-election lol.  If it leaked out he had a chance to and did not, how would that have affected his re-election???
   
" Heck, even Mitt said he would not have done it."

Romney questioned whether it was worth the money, guts or no guts has nothing to do with it.

""Folks, Governor Romney didn't see things that way. When he was asked about bin Laden in 2007, he said, and I quote, 'It's not worth moving heaven and Earth and spending billions of dollars just to catch one person,' " Biden said to boos from the audience."
   
 If Georgie had done it (who actually said he didn't care anymore about the guy who attacked us), Righties would have put him on Mount Rushmore.

Perhaps, but since he initiated the efforts to get him, if he had a chance to and did not I would question that as well.

Bin Laden was the symbol of 9/11, it was good for the moral of the country to take him out.

ed2000 31 Reviews 322 reads
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12 / 30

That's the mantra of those that don't have a clue. They don't have a clue how much their plan will cost in new efforts. They don't have a clue how much their plan will cost in displaced existing infrastructure. And most don't even actually have a plan.

And the biggest problem of all is these clueless dolts that think they do have a plan is they have no idea as to whether their plan will actually mitigate what they believe the problem to be. If their climate models have been so wrong thus far how can anyone believe their projections going forward are close to correct. In short, no one knows if taking these steps will do enough or even do squat (or how much it will cost), but WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!

JackDunphy 362 reads
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13 / 30

Hansen is the guy the left always points to as validation for their beliefs but what will they say now that he has peed all over Barry's great accomplishment?

I am so glad the "science is settled." :

bigguy30 299 reads
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15 / 30
DUANE 33 Reviews 292 reads
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16 / 30

well let's see, here is what you posted

"people love being Prez.....so, yes, it was a big deal he risked it."  

    I guess I don't see that as taking guts, yes if the mission failed he would look bad, but honestly I think the country would still have been glad he tried.  But the only risk was his personal risk, which frankly, in my opinion should not even enter the head of a president.  He should do what he thinks is right for the country.  If he truly thought the way you say, it shows he puts Obama first, USA (and it's citizens) second.
 
'Mitt saying he wouldn't do it has everything to do with it.  Also, most of the country disagreed with him because they CHEERED when Osama was killed.  The only people who said, "Who cares?" were the ultra-partisan wackos who'd blast Obama if he cured cancer."  

      Again Mitt just said he didn't think we should throw a lot of money and resources at it.  You totally mis-characterize his thoughts
 
"Bush didn't "initiate" anything.  He flat-out said he didn't care about the guy."

ABC, hardly Bush's fans say "The 43rd president and man who initiated the hunt for bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks has shied from the spotlight since news broke nearly two weeks ago."  So, you lie.
   
And, Bush DID have a chance to get him in Afghanistan and let him go.  

Did Bush have the Intelligence on where specifically Bin Laden was hiding, as Obama ultimately did?  If so, please cite a source on this, and on your assertion he "let him go" (other than entering Iraq which I suspect is all you have got)

ed2000 31 Reviews 321 reads
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17 / 30

to realize how they are making this into a human rights issue for immediate relief and assistance for food, water and energy.

613spades 5 Reviews 314 reads
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18 / 30

Trying to slow global warming by limiting carbon emissions is like trying to slow a freight train going down a mountain with your feet. It simply is too late and the co2 in our atmosphere will continue to rise; just at a slightly slower rate. The fact is even if we quit using fossil fuels today it's probably too late to stop gw without removing co2 from our atmosphere.  
       

Posted By: JackDunphy
Hansen is the guy the left always points to as validation for their beliefs but what will they say now that he has peed all over Barry's great accomplishment?  
   
 I am so glad the "science is settled." :D  
   
   
   
 

JackDunphy 283 reads
posted
19 / 30

Then they all board their jets and blow massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that they claim is....is....ummmm...overloaded with CO2!!! What tools.

It's classic "do as I say not as I do."

ed2000 31 Reviews 288 reads
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20 / 30

A 100 year goal that is so important they only gave the delegates a few hours to read the final draft before voting.

DUANE 33 Reviews 312 reads
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21 / 30

Where in this (YOUR) link does it say Bush did or did not pursue Bin Laden?  The report questions whether the "torture" provided leads.  Which by the way kinda implies they were going after Bin Laden.

"One of the big arguments the Central Intelligence Agency has used to defend its enhanced interrogation techniques is that information stemming from those interrogations led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

More specifically, officials have argued that those types of questionings led to important information about Abu Ahmad al-Kuwaiti, the courier that led the U.S. to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.

After an exhaustive three-year investigation, the Senate Intelligence Committee came to the conclusion that those claims are overblown or downright lies."

Another lie by you.

I guess I should go back to putting you on ignore.

As far as Carter goes, yes the failed rescue attempt added to his appearance of being weak.  As it would have done to Obama if he failed.  But risking political future by going with an operation that would be good for the country takes "guts"?  Totally disagree.  But I guess that is an opinion, not a fact (either way).

DUANE 33 Reviews 313 reads
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22 / 30

the post was that Obama showed guts with the mission to get Bin Laden.  I questioned that.  It's an opinion and you may agree or disagree.

but posting that he took out whatever number of terrorists has no bearing on this.

You might argue that your posts supports that Obama has been tough on terrorists (as did Tapper).

DUANE 33 Reviews 273 reads
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23 / 30

From YOUR source

"Update at 1:37 p.m. ET. Former CIA Directors Reject Findings:

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, former CIA Directors George Tenet, Porter Goss and Michael Hayden, and former CIA Deputy Directors John McLaughlin, Albert Calland and Stephen Kappes defended the CIA.

They say this report is critically flawed. Specifically, they say the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques led to important intelligence and helped in the hunt for Osama bin Laden."

but according to you there was no hunt for Bin Laden.  So which is it?

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 306 reads
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86H13LTP 320 reads
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25 / 30

they test fired a medium range missle for the third time . A missle capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to Israel .  When that day comes , and the way things are now it will , there will be climate change alright . And it will all be on O'tool and his clown posse

bigguy30 308 reads
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26 / 30

So your telling me President Obama taking out whatever number of terrorists has no bearing on this topic???
He not only gave the order to kill the number one terrorist in the world at the time but many other terrorists assholes.
Just stop with the games man.
 

Posted By: DUANE
the post was that Obama showed guts with the mission to get Bin Laden.  I questioned that.  It's an opinion and you may agree or disagree.  
   
 but posting that he took out whatever number of terrorists has no bearing on this.  
   
 You might argue that your posts supports that Obama has been tough on terrorists (as did Tapper).

DUANE 33 Reviews 337 reads
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27 / 30

I now see you included "other ISIS leaders".

So in this case I am in error.

JackDunphy 314 reads
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28 / 30

are so certain that the world is going to burn up. LOL

It doesn't matter that so many of their crazed predictions have been wrong (i.e. hurricanes, tornadoes, etc)

It the left's "religion."  

They just take it all on....wait for it....

"Faith." LOL

Well, faith and Algore's word. :D :D :D

DUANE 33 Reviews 265 reads
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29 / 30

Smog and GHG are not that closely related.  You can drastically cut smog and not touch GHG one iota.  I give you California from 1990 to 2010 as an example.  You could even cut GHG emissions, and depending on what you do with fuel specs you might worsen smog.  But, it is likely that if you cut GHG emissions, you will reduce smog

bigguy30 259 reads
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30 / 30

Posted By: DUANE
I now see you included "other ISIS leaders".  
   
 So in this case I am in error.

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