calls for his vetting process to include anything close to any part of the following:

"In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles.  The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law.  In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation."

The above is taken from Trump Executive Order from last Friday.

We do not condition immigration on whether the immigrant bears a “hostile attitude” toward the US  and its founding principles. That’s right. Communist, anarchists, sharia law advocates are all welcome. We don’t make them pledge allegiance to the flag and that is why you would never see Mr. Obama issue an EO with such shameful language.

        What we care about is conduct. That is why Mr. Obama paused Iraqi immigration briefly when the FBI discovered a couple of Iraqi terrorist bomb makers living in Kentucky who had attacked our troops in Iraq. Had their fingerprints not been on the IEDs in inventory, they probably would still be there.

Seems like an excellent set of principles.

What U.S. Constitutional rights of a Syrian citizen would be violated if he were questioned regarding his views and then denied entry if the interviewer decided, with the President's blessing, to do so?

-- Modified on 1/30/2017 11:52:43 PM

Well maybe we should start.

Why in the world would we want people coming to this country who want to see its destruction?

It is a privilege to be a legal immigrant, not a right.  

The First Amendment should not be a suicide pact for the U.S.

Why should we allow people of incompatible ideology into our country?

You absolutely pledge your allegiance to the flag and to the united states of America or you cannot become a citizen. Do we want people here that don't want to achieve citizenship? (outside of guest workers)

Your believe system is so foreign to me. Like our brains developed from different species...

I don't give a fuck why Obama did anything. He did what he thought was best. I absolutely support the presidency and respected that, we as a country, elected him to make the decisions he thought best.  Many of the things he did where found unconstitutional and he was reversed by the courts regularly. If Trump does the same, he'll get the same results.  

You should consider giving Trump that same respect.  He was elected president of our great nation. If he breaks the law, he'll suffer the consequences of his actions.  

You might discover that the vast majority of the citizenry, D's and R's and what ever, do not support allowing Communists, anarchists and those that believe Sharia law should be replace our laws into our country.  I can't even fathom why you believe otherwise.  

 

Unlike during Obama, the first time one of Trump's decisions is thrown out by SCOTUS (or even a US Appellate Court) both the Left and the MSM will be clamoring for his impeachment. Hell, MSNBC was already beginning to suggest it tonight.

Unlike marikod's method of judging by one's actions, the majority of the Left believe action should be taken based on Trump's viewpoints.

they can't relate to this type of thing

it's principled, and honest

and reading it would make it harder to lie about it

-- Modified on 1/31/2017 7:33:12 AM

They have no legal standing to demand admittance. Even with a Green Card. Even with a Visa. Trump adviser Steven Miller laid out the case last night. If the courts granted any non-citizen the standing to demand admittance, then every non-citizen would then have standing to sue the United States of America for not providing admittance, therefore loss of benefits, including loss of employment or loss of welfare benefits, etc etc.  That would be national suicide.

That’s right.  Trump’s next executive order will require members of the White House staff to sign a Loyalty Oath before they can be served at the White House cafeteria, or use the bathrooms. Captain Black will be in charge of this program.

      We can’t have people who are hostile to American values in the White House.

On a completely different note, I think I know where Trump is getting his ideas.

at least if this all took place on US soil. The complaint is that entry is being denied bc of the immigrant’s Muslim religion –which is what Trump has said - and that the 7 country national security  test is a pretext for purely religious discrimination in violation of the First Amendment. Remember, as a general proposition, the 1st, 5th and 14th Amendment protect all persons on US soil – not just citizens.

         On the other hand, if the denial is a true national security judgment, it would probably be okay.

Not sure how all this would work if they do it overseas outside of the US Embassy.

The green card serves as proof that its holder, a lawful permanent resident (LPR), has been officially granted immigration benefits, which include permission to reside and take employment in the United States.

Also Trump adviser Steven Miller.
You and others should learn his background!

the enemy right in, again.  Remember 911.  I will never forget.  Damn straight our government should protect us.

that your fellow brethren Progressives don't wish to follow your lead and ideals for making judgments.  So much so, you are compelled to attempt to change the subject to a complete non-sequitur.

Of course this entire discussion is about people on foreign soil. That is the ENTIRE point, to keep the inappropriate ones out.

If it can be determined that a person has little or no interest in eventually becoming a citizen then they need to be denied permanent residence status. Additional vetting needs to be applied to this first group and to those seeking temporary status in as they say an extreme fashion (all national security related). Glad you're on board with that.