To be honest, the last few weeks have been difficult. It is hard for me to realize that we lost to someone like Donald Trump. The Democratic Party is a proud and a resilient group so better days are ahead. There are several things I would do, and the sooner the better.
a) Ms. Pelosi needs to go. Mr Ryan has much more in common with the blue collar, middle class voter and we need newer, younger leadership so we can reach out to a constituency that should be voting in droves for us. b) I think identity politics needs to scaled back a bit. We don't need to mention women, blacks, hispanics, by name etc. They are not monolithic groups. Our policies should do the talking for themselves and those groups should rush to our party because it benefits them to do so. Maybe we took them for granted? c) we have become a regional party. We have both coasts on lock down but very little everywhere else. We need to make in roads in the south and take back the upper mid-west. Our message needs to be more inclusive and our message more positive. d) we have to find a way to speak to white voters without alienating minorities. That is easier said then done. Last Sunday, Chuck Todd went into a county in Michigan that Mr. Obama won twice but Mrs. Clinton lost, and spoke with those voters. They feel like the Democratic Party has abandoned them. I would like to see us do a massive study as to why they feel this way. e) the DNC needs to be completely overhauled. Mr Sanders quite possibly was robbed by the DNC. Too many people now think it has been corrupted and I can't argue with them anymore. I think my party has to look inward. We cant blame Trump for our party's demise. It will take a lot of money, time and effort. We can't change fundamentally who we are, but we need to retrace our steps and see why our message is not getting through. I feel when properly explained, the Democratic Party is the party of choice of most voters, and the popular vote wins by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Gore, along with the popular and electoral wins twice each by Mr Obama and Mr Clinton would bear that out.Republicans have their greatest majorities of all government since 1928. This is a historically bad time for Dems.
So what would you do to rebuild them?
What do they need to build back their numbers?
His last post here was on 11-2, several days before the election. Maybe a little birdie told him it was time to get out of Dodge while the getting was good? lol
But his absence leaves a huge vacuum to fill. BFRG was a bigger favorite for SPOTY than Hillary was for POTUS, now that he's gone, and the rules do say you have to be an active poster all the way through the end of the year, who is the new SPOTY frontrunner? It looks like a wide open race to me.
if perhaps fg was stabbed in the back and got 30 days.
I cannot see tc30 going away 6 days before the election, however post election I can see the little coward hiding like the little sissy boy he is.
I'd give it another 2 weeks or so to see if tc30 emerges from under his rock just as stupid and dishonest as always.
The other possibility is that he is with you know who seeking comfort in only ways you know who can give it to him, or perhaps with his $80 for 30 min gal. Maybe he needs a baby wipe to clean up
To be honest, the last few weeks have been difficult. It is hard for me to realize that we lost to someone like Donald Trump. The Democratic Party is a proud and a resilient group so better days are ahead. There are several things I would do, and the sooner the better.
a) Ms. Pelosi needs to go. Mr Ryan has much more in common with the blue collar, middle class voter and we need newer, younger leadership so we can reach out to a constituency that should be voting in droves for us.
b) I think identity politics needs to scaled back a bit. We don't need to mention women, blacks, hispanics, by name etc. They are not monolithic groups. Our policies should do the talking for themselves and those groups should rush to our party because it benefits them to do so. Maybe we took them for granted?
c) we have become a regional party. We have both coasts on lock down but very little everywhere else. We need to make in roads in the south and take back the upper mid-west. Our message needs to be more inclusive and our message more positive.
d) we have to find a way to speak to white voters without alienating minorities. That is easier said then done. Last Sunday, Chuck Todd went into a county in Michigan that Mr. Obama won twice but Mrs. Clinton lost, and spoke with those voters. They feel like the Democratic Party has abandoned them. I would like to see us do a massive study as to why they feel this way.
e) the DNC needs to be completely overhauled. Mr Sanders quite possibly was robbed by the DNC. Too many people now think it has been corrupted and I can't argue with them anymore.
I think my party has to look inward. We cant blame Trump for our party's demise. It will take a lot of money, time and effort. We can't change fundamentally who we are, but we need to retrace our steps and see why our message is not getting through. I feel when properly explained, the Democratic Party is the party of choice of most voters, and the popular vote wins by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Gore, along with the popular and electoral wins twice each by Mr Obama and Mr Clinton would bear that out.
I cant nitpick anything really. Well I could, but why piss you off after such introspection? lol
...that addressed your OP?
...so much to our knowledge of politics.
Yourself? You're such a font of innovative wisdom aren't you?
...are you trying for White Knight of the Year or Mangina of the Year? Keep it up and you may win both. It's not impossible - in baseball, ten pitchers have won both the Cy Young and MVP in the same year, most recently Clayton Kershaw in 2014.
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You are one of the few on the Right here that seems to be able to engage in rational and civilized discourse. I thoroughly enjoyed your OP as I have had a few weeks to digest the results from a fortnight ago and it was quite cathartic to list my plan to rebuild the party that I cherish.
......lost was because of the party establishments support for the various trade deals and stricter regulations on emissions by the EPA, which have all resulted in the loss of millions of blue collar jobs in the rust belt and middle Appalachia regions.
a) Ms. Pelosi needs to go. Mr Ryan has much more in common with the blue collar, middle class voter and we need newer, younger leadership so we can reach out to a constituency that should be voting in droves for us.
b) I think identity politics needs to scaled back a bit. We don't need to mention women, blacks, hispanics, by name etc. They are not monolithic groups. Our policies should do the talking for themselves and those groups should rush to our party because it benefits them to do so. Maybe we took them for granted?
c) we have become a regional party. We have both coasts on lock down but very little everywhere else. We need to make in roads in the south and take back the upper mid-west. Our message needs to be more inclusive and our message more positive.
d) we have to find a way to speak to white voters without alienating minorities. That is easier said then done. Last Sunday, Chuck Todd went into a county in Michigan that Mr. Obama won twice but Mrs. Clinton lost, and spoke with those voters. They feel like the Democratic Party has abandoned them. I would like to see us do a massive study as to why they feel this way.
e) the DNC needs to be completely overhauled. Mr Sanders quite possibly was robbed by the DNC. Too many people now think it has been corrupted and I can't argue with them anymore.
I think my party has to look inward. We cant blame Trump for our party's demise. It will take a lot of money, time and effort. We can't change fundamentally who we are, but we need to retrace our steps and see why our message is not getting through. I feel when properly explained, the Democratic Party is the party of choice of most voters, and the popular vote wins by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Gore, along with the popular and electoral wins twice each by Mr Obama and Mr Clinton would bear that out.
Let me add that your retort was much more specific than mine and how I wish I had thought of it. Perfect addition. Touche!
They just can't get their numbers to get out and vote, dems are well known to not show up and vote.
A very real reason that Obama won both times he ran is because he was able to convince people to get registered and vote. And if Hillary Clinton had been able to do the same, she would've won in a landslide. But you see, these millennials, these movers and shakers as they think they are, couldn't be bothered to take precious time out of their day to vote. Now though, they find plenty of time to protest, and cry and complain about the popular vote, as opposed to the Constitutional electoral vote. Too little too fucking late, they lose. Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump, think about that for a moment, she lost to the Clown Donald Trump. How much of a fucking loser is Hillary Clinton? She lost to Donald Trump.
I predict, or hope, that by 2028 the Libertarian party will have a legitimate chance for POTUS, the reason I think that is the root platform of the Libertarian party is reduction of Government, and Governmental control/influence in our lives, and people are already showing that they want this, and these people WILL vote. Also, most people are done with the dems and repubs and their partisan bullshit, I know I sure as hell am.
I would have never under any circumstance voted for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, but I also would never consider not voting. If I wouldn't have felt that Gary Johnson and the Libertarian party fit my ideals and political philosophy, I would have written in Mickey Mouse, but I would have exercised my right/responsibility as a citizen of the United States of America. Many people better than me died to secure my right/responsibility to vote, I don't take that lightly.
To be fair, there are crazies on the far Right (and Left) that celebrate when their own think the same AND look the same. Of course the Left's problem with identity politics started out as opposition to the times when looking the same and thinking the same was more prevalent. The problem is, it worked so well for them they've been unable to see that their pendulum has swung to its own new extreme.
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Just wait until Trump turns everything to shit, like they did with G.W.!
The Dem party is in tatters Matt. Its leadership is awash in a sea of corruption and you think doing nothing will help the party? Really???
If the economy tanks under Trump and the Rep. majorities in the states and Federal congresses, and governorships, you'll see the tides turn.
Democrats will be voted in to clean up the shitola left behind after Trumpf, with deficits as far as the eye can see.
