Politics and Religion

Good point, but here's what you are not considering...
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A believer in something that teaches there is a judgement or consequences to actions is the least likely to blow everything up.  Someone who does NOT believe in an afterlife or a supreme being is more likely to do it — they are like children who know they can get away with anything if there isn't a parental figure around.  I'll grant you, that kind of person may not be crazy.  Just amoral.

A crazy person is another category of button pusher.  That could someone that claims to be religious or maybe they blame their actions on something else.  It doesn't really have anything to do with what they blame it on, if they are crazy.

Plenty of people who claim to be religious to some degree have had access to the codes.  We're still here.

Wouldn't it be fun if a crazy person would have access to...

Crazy people have had access to the codes as long as there have been codes.  Even people who probably are not religious at all.

GaGambler1871 reads

and if we are going to call all religious people "whackos" (not a bad idea IMO) our current POTUS sat in Reverend Wright's church for over two decades.

If we are going to paint with this broad a brush, everyone in office is going to get paint on them. I will admit people on the right tend to be a little nuttier about religion, while people on the left make up for it in countless other ways, not the least of which is the belief that government can solve all of our problems.

...how many of those crazy people have believed in the End Times...and that it was imminent? Are you comfortable with the idea that a person who believes in the Rapture, and that human beings MUST play a hand in bringing it about, could have access to our nuclear launch codes?

A believer in something that teaches there is a judgement or consequences to actions is the least likely to blow everything up.  Someone who does NOT believe in an afterlife or a supreme being is more likely to do it — they are like children who know they can get away with anything if there isn't a parental figure around.  I'll grant you, that kind of person may not be crazy.  Just amoral.

A crazy person is another category of button pusher.  That could someone that claims to be religious or maybe they blame their actions on something else.  It doesn't really have anything to do with what they blame it on, if they are crazy.

Plenty of people who claim to be religious to some degree have had access to the codes.  We're still here.

...is that such religious doctrines outright state that you can commit any number of horrible acts, and if you ask for forgiveness before you die, then you're fine. That is a license to behave however you like.

But it ignores the fact that many Christians pine for the rapture. They can't wait for it to happen. The sooner, the better.

The simple fact is that religious people can ALWAYS find an excuse to do horrible things because they think it will please their deity.

An atheist, on the other hand, believes that when he dies, that the show is over...forever. If you consider how terrifying that thought is, then you'd realize that atheists are far less likely to commit such an atrocity. Rather, they would more likely cling to life as much as they can.

If you think that people only do good things because they're afraid of the giant boogeyman in the sky, then you'd have to be a very callous person indeed. I personally have been an atheist for quite some time, however I do have a very well defined moral code that I live by. It is the idea that the only thing we can take with us after we die is what we leave behind. That our goal in life should be to seek the elimination of human misery.

It is for this reason that I have done a lot of volunteer work with organizations that help the homeless.

The fact is crazy people can always find a excuse like rapture or awaiting virgins in the afterlife. AND there's always plenty of people around to believe them if it supports their prejudice of that religion. Unless the maniac claims to be an atheist, then his personal beliefs are conveinently ignore in favor of some other agenda like gun control.

some who is dumb, or believing in something that everyone else knows is untrue, vs. a misstatement. Of course I'm certain you've never misstated anything.

Just because you disagree with him doesn't make him dumb.

suppose you were campaigning for the Presidency. Suppose while campaigning you visited California 5 times, Iowa 4 times, and New Hampshire 3 times.

How many states would you have then TRAVELLED to?

Snowman39711 reads

It doesn't matter... HE HE HE

Be honest, if it were GWB, the libs and press would be all over it.

Nice try on the spin job, you should have tried for the White House Press secretary.

Snowman391550 reads

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU ??!?!?!??!

You said, and I quote....

"something that everyone else knows is untrue"

Apparently you do believe there is a God, but you think you are him. You have NO PLACE in saying what I or any other person believes....

here in the United States of America know there are not 57 states in the union. Isn't that your point?

I think I'm reasonably safe in believing that!

Priapus531136 reads

pathetic that some right-wingers on this board have "mastubatory crushes" on morons like Bachmann & Palin-------:(



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Posted By: willywonka4u
Wouldn't it be fun if a crazy person would have access to...
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GodsHelper1574 reads

Pick a empty bowl and spoon out of your cupboard.
Make something alive with those two items.

God is Great. He made something out of nothing.


GaGambler1855 reads

I think God needs a smarter helper. rofl

Please tell me you aren't really that stupid, you were just fucking with us, right?

and if you really are stupid enough to believe your own words, please prove to us that there ever was "nothing".

Don't need to. There is no evidence for the proposition that god exists.

There is no evidence for the BELIEF that god does not exists.

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Priapus531491 reads

so therefore you have the evidence that the BELIEF God doesn't exist is is untrue ?! One belief that I DO have is one has to be a bit schizo to believe in an omipotent deity. Illustrated in thread above where some numbuts believed that God created the universe with a bowl & a spoon------;)-------LMFAO !

Posted By: Fair_Use
There is no evidence for the BELIEF that god does not exists.

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There is no evidence for the BELIEF that pink unicorns do not exist.

She surely will be quick to anger when she discovers her doubters!

The choice to believe, or not believe, in anything is still just a choice.

Posted By: Fair_Use
The choice to believe, or not believe, in anything is still just a choice.  
I choose to require evidence otherwise you are doing the intellectual equivalent of dividing by zero.

Looks like you are more religious than you thought.

Posted By: CallNumber9
Posted By: Fair_Use
The choice to believe, or not believe, in anything is still just a choice.  
I choose to require evidence otherwise you are doing the intellectual equivalent of dividing by zero.

Snowman391601 reads

they be able to PROVE it. Otherwise, say waht it is their opinion....

Below is the proof that you can not divide by 0

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Division by zero is an operation for which you cannot find an answer, so it is disallowed. You can understand why if you think about how division and multiplication are related.
  12 divided by 6 is 2   because
   6 times 2 is 12

  12 divided by 0 is x   would mean that
   0 times x = 12

But no value would work for x because 0 times any number is 0. So division by zero doesn't work.

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Still waiting on the proof from someone there is no God since they state it like it is fact.

The situation itself is insane.

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50000 thousand killed because of him. He would have no trouble pushing the button. Of course, he would probably arrange to be one of the survivors so he could claim it was a mistake 20 years later.

GaGambler1213 reads

I would prefer that whoever's finger is on the button to believe that death is permanent. I don't really want anyone to send me to a "better place" of their own, or someone else's imagination.

Truth be told, I am in no hurry to find out if heaven, or paradise is a real place. I'll find out soon enough, I am in no particular hurry. lol

benlanger1349 reads

This dumb shit GOP rising star stated that Founding Fathers eliminated slavery in America.    What a nut and who are the meat heads who voted for this creature?

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Posted By: Yes_Indeed
Mathews also incorrectly interpreted her comments.
Quote :
I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly — men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country.’


Michelle B.never said John Quincy Adams was a founding father. Seems the press and Chris Matthews do not understand English that a forebear is an ancestor which Adams was and it is historical fact that he was a strong advocate against slavery so who is to say he did not work tirelessly :)

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Posted By: Yes_Indeed
Mathews also incorrectly interpreted her comments.
Quote
In 1789 he wrote and published several essays supporting the abolition of slavery and his last public act was to send to Congress a petition on behalf of the Society asking for the abolition of slavery and an end to the slave trade. The petition, signed on February 3, 1790, asked the first Congress, then meeting in New York City, to "devise means for removing the Inconsistency from the Character of the American People," and to "promote mercy and justice toward this distressed Race."

The petition was introduced to the House on February 12 and to the Senate on February 15, 1790. It was immediately denounced by pro-slavery congressmen and sparked a heated debate in both the House and the Senate

http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/franklin/

Quote Michelle Bachmann
we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States .

Until slavery was no more in the United States is not solid though but I am sure she knows slavery ended with the Civil War  .

As I pointed out above Franklin did indeed work to end slavery and he was a founding father.

When talking about people trying to impose their beliefs, or non-beliefs, it is often both stupid and dishonest.  

Posted By: Yes_Indeed
Gotta be one or the other.

...sounds more like Bachmann is interested in being Jesus' fuck-buddy.

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