This is a question for both sides, is there ANY issue where you can concede the other side has it right, and your side has it wrong?  Can anyone here actually praise the other side for being on the right side of an issue while condemning the members of your side?

I am not if favor of it either, but I certainly understand why many people would be. The fact of the matter is that "walls" or "fences" or "barriers" do actually "work" but it doesn't mean they are infallible.  

That a puss of a stance. I bet at least 60 percent of the Republicans deep down inside thought that wall was a fuck up ideal...
Now if you came up with a review of the  2nd amendment or you being on the side of pro-choice, then I'd say you're on to something here...but the "Wall", really?  
Are trying to pad your stats here??..It's not to late to have this thread pulled down ya know....jus sayin.

Planned Parenthood - You/Dems give up Federal Funding, which equates to about 1/3 of PP annual operating budget. In dollar terms that equals about $400 Million/Yr. In return, PP can continue unfettered in ALL aspects of providing reproductive services to ALL women, including abortion services. Let's totally remove the Federal Govt in the daily operation of PP.  

with term limits. And why Planned Parenthood? It's PRO CHOICE. Forget the PP optics. You against pro choice?

Here's the deal.........

and in the case of several of the posters on this board I would support the right to abort all the way up to about the 300th trimester. Abortion is one of the issues where I am glad to have the loony left standing up to the pious right, and let me repeat I am 100% on YOUR side where it comes to the abortion issue

...That's a form of government funding.  Religious organizations are the most vociferous of the anti-abortion groups.  Do you really think they'll be OK with no limits on pro-choice in exchange for de-funding PP?  

on this board and your response is to immediately shoot back with a condemnation of him.  

That's three points of agreement I have conceded to the lefties of this board, but so far not a single admission from the left that they support ANYTHING from the right side of the aisle.

It gets down to the liberals reliance on the Federal Govt, i.e. legally, emotionally, and financially. This might sound a bit crude, but I want the libs to be OK with monetizing vaginas. I would turn PP into a profit organization, but with the charter to provide free and low cost reproductive services to those women in financial need. Think about it, a PP adjacent to each university. Captive audience, and revenue.

I think it's pretty well documented on this board your contempt, disdain and hatred for women. Don't even try and pass yourself off as some kind of champion for women. The last thing this current women's movement doesn't need is someone with the qualities of a Ray Rice and Woody Allen.

but I think the standard needs to be changed. I don't believe a "beyond a reasonable doubt" is a high enough standard when we are talking about ending someone's life, as you said "we know innocent people have been put to death" I support the death penalty, but I believe that standard should be "beyond a shadow of a doubt"

Why didn't you say that at the beginning. Next time come in strong or don't come at all....lol.
As for the right, I sorta like the tax reform that was laid out. Not sure of the 21 percent corporate tax cut. I feel it's a little too steep. Maybe 28 and take it from there.
But time will tell of the ramifications and I'm not talking about the debt...I like the direction although I don't think this will really sustain the middle class. I call it the "Corporate Stimulus".
And believe it or not, I'm for the death penalty, but you better be 110 percent sure.

immediately hit me with another insult.

but thank you for being the first from your side of the aisle to concede that there is at least something the right supports that you can get behind too. Maybe there is hope for us yet?

1.  Pro choice:  A woman SHOULD decide, NOT my business.

disagree with you?  That is if there were no loopholes or ways dishonest lawmakers could sliver around your central premise.

is praise from someone like you.

...white lists I have.  Do you think someone with "contempt, disdain and hatred for women" could fool providers into whitelisting him, especially since he doesn't exchange white lists for reviews?  My white lists are "pretty well documented" - how about yours?  

In the past 30 days, you have 274 posts on this P&R board.  GaG has 60-some.  Of course, GaG is active on many other TER boards but the only one to which I referred was this one.

Just so that I'm clear, you probably think that all or most that are reliant on the Federal Govt. are liberals, huh?
And what percentage of abortions are performed at PP, I hear it's 3 percent and I'm sure not all are liberals.
I have a feeling I know what gets you, government hand outs...but remember righties are also in line.

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I'm not a religious guy so maybe that's why.

if two guys who fuck each other in ass want to get married. In general, I think the Dems have right about same sex marriage. Although it's very low on my list politically.

All this time I thought you ran some massage parlor or maybe was the owner at Hou's ay one time...Got some crazy whitelist there.

"Don't forget I agreed with BPS about revoking tax exempt status for churches"...lol...Yeah after the fact.
Ok so let's get the evolving Gag score card,  
1- The Wall
2- Pro- Choice
3-Exempt Church Status
4-??
Anything else Ga?
Fucking with you..I'm bored today

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There are a number of things I agree with traditional conservatives.  Unfortunately that’s no longer what the GOP stands for.  

It's insignificant. Why would I care? Would you agree that abortion and pro-choice is probably one of the top 3 contentious issues in this country? What I want is to marginalize the extremes in this country. Make them irrelevant. If you look at most issues, what is the common denominator? Money! By eliminating a component of the vitriolic debate, maybe, just maybe, we can bring more of the debate to a centrist compromise.  

But so far I can’t.think of a single one. The only thing I can agree with is there are just as many stupid Democrats who post here as stupid Republicans.

I just think most liberal ideas are proven to not work and are dumb.  I am a pragmatist and like to pursue government policies that work.  When someone has to stifle discussion and name-call to support their position, to me it shows the weakness of said position.  I just think liberals are often mean, wrong and nasty with no consistent intellectual basis for many of their views - it's all emotional to them.

Anyone else being mean, wrong and nasty with no consistent intellectual basis for many of their views is funny coming from you. Have you read any of your own posts on this board?
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And, what do you think mean and nasty libs are trying to take from you? Your health care? Your Social Security "entitlement"? Your ability to buy an assault rifle at a gun show with no background check? Or maybe they want to give significant parts of the land (and water rights) in your National Parks to for-profit corporations so they can drill for oil and set-up mining operations---as long as they PROMIS not to spill anything or kill off any endangered species?
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Are they stealing your right to dump your toxic shit in rivers whenever you feel like it because it’s just too financially burdensome for you to be environmentally responsible? Are libs trying to take away your right to pray where and whenever you like by attempting to adhere to an actual separation of church and state? Or maybe you’re angry about libs attacking your right to stand during the anthem at sporting events?
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Do  they want to take away your right to terminate a pregnancy? Or prevent you from buying a fucking cake for your wedding, at the only bakery in your town? Perhaps you’re afraid libs will do everything possible to limit valid scientific research you disagree with, and give the EPA a list of “words” they’re not allowed to use? Legislate what toilet you can use?
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Maybe you believe that all of the money the heartless libs want to earmark to help people in need is taking money out of your pocket because compassionate republicans would most definitely be giving that money to YOU instead of an already boated military, or their mega wealthy corporate donors?  
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Or…maybe these nasty libs want to come after you for consuming cannabis and toss evil drug users like you in prison for 15-20 yrs at a time? Oh..I know… you must be worried that libs want to take away your job picking fruit and give it to some criminal from central Mex or Central America?  No?
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Then it must be that libs want to eliminate any consumer/employee protections so your customers and/or employees can’t take you to court after you fuck them over?  Maybe libs want take something from YOU by finding a way for people who have lived and thrived in the US since they were children to continue to live in the only county they’ve known, instead of sending out the ICE Gestapo to round them up and deport them back to wherever the fuck their parents came from?  
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Surely all of this must be taking something from YOU since I hear this argument repeated so often. But what? I’m confused. What, exactly do you think libs are trying to take away from you?

What constitutes a "real" church from a fake one?

But basically anybody can form a 501c3 tax exempt church.  It costs about $1000.00 depending on what state you live in. Once done, anybody can stick a few beds in their garage and call it a homeless shelter, let their itinerant brother in law move in and be eligible for state and federal aid payments in addition to the tax exempt status.  That’s basically how mega Church’s like Osteens scam were started.

I did say Osteens operation was scam.  But all in all he does do charitable acts and has a large following.   He did open up his church eventually.  It was just an example of what could pass for a 501c3 Church, not any praise to Osteen.  

and he is EXACTLY the type who should not be getting tax exempt status.

The guy letting his itinerant brother in law sleep in his garage is not doing a charitable act.  He gets state and federal aid for running a fake homeless shelter.   Osteen started out the same way and is certainly a fraud, but he does do some legitimate charitable acts now.    

...Well GaG here I am yer lilly livered lefty pal & I am agenst the death penalty, I think it is a far better crime deterant that convicted capitol crime prisoners be kept isolated in a small cell, fed twice a day washed once a week & forced to view pictures of the victims of their crimes daly.

...As a liberal I recognise the need for a program like this, but the EBT food program is harming the health of many of the people using it, this program must no longer pay for high fat & high salt snack foods, soda & cafinated energy drinks, & this is easly done with the bar code system & the program should be expanded to pay for health needs like toothpast & soap. Next is the EBT cash system, instead of such a large amount of cash the low income recipeants could recieve coupons good only for energy bills, child care, or transportation to work, that ought to be enough to make some of the other liberals hate me.

your terminating a baby instead of a pregnancy. Ironically, the pro choice movement offers no choice for the baby. Nine months is the length of time an abortion is allowed in Canada. Perhaps you should move there. I hear they have free healthcare.

talk about distorting the truth. 90% of abortions in Canada are performed in the first trimester, with only 2-3% performed after 16 weeks.  
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NO physician in Canada can terminate a pregnancy over 24 weeks without serious indications that the life of the mother is at risk or that the fetus has very serious malformations. Go ahead--look it up. It is undoubtedly a horribly painful decision to make. But, it is not YOUR decision to determine whether someone else---a woman---or a family---should be forced to carry a severely handicapped child to term.

I wouldn't say he lies, but can be a bit wobbly on the details!

Perhaps he mixed up Canada with China, though I can' really see it happening there either!

against severely handicapped children and justifying their late term abortion. A 23 week abortion is really bad, handicapped or not. Plenty of handicapped folks live fulfilling lives. Smdh.

Simple. No one is trying to force you to do or believe anything against your will. Do you see the difference here?
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 And, of course plenty of disabled kids live fulfilling lives. But, then again...plenty do not.  It's a very difficult and personal decision and, again, not yours to make for someone else.

I have a serious problem with babies being terminated and so do a lot of other people. Pro choice has its limits.

congratulations

they kill defenseless little girls!

but you would think my Anti Church, pro Choice, pro "leave gays the fuck alone", anti "war on drugs" etc etc etc, would be enough for the righties to kick me out of their club too, but no dice. lol

...A slice in time where we are actualy attempting to understand each others view pounts without all the insults & name calling, how long can this last ?

Is it what issues they are for or against on an anonymous fuck board?
Or, is it to what degree they support a particular party or president on an anonymous fuck board?
Or, is it the degree to which they defend the indefensible?

It might last a long time, maybe even ten or fifteen more minutes if we are lucky. lol

Your compassion goes beyond the EBT card. You actually want to encourage, help, even control how people use their EBT card. Me, just give them the money. Let them make their own decisions, good or bad. We already give a slice of society money for other programs without restrictions.

...Which hair ya talken about sport ? it would have to be my eyebrows or my balls cuz my crainum would never support flames, Partisin support from me is best over simplified by saying that the right is for materials & the left is for people, Of course that is most easily illustrated by republican tax plans moving less tax burden to the wealthy & more to average workers, but what about business taxes, I believe directly taxing business in this country makes American business less competative wiith the rest of the world, what would happen if there were no direct business taxes & that revenue was made up by taxing the people that profited from those businesses ? We would have to withold taxes from foreign investors but any profits made in this country should be taxed here.

and the argument has some merit.

...If you don't mind using your tax money to support further destruction of Americans health mabey you should think about the cost to all of us of obesity, alcoholism, & opiate abuse. We should be willing to accept the risk of the labling of "nanystate" to help prevent the further decline of the health of Americans.

...No GaG not even close VAT effects everyone, what I described was nothing moer than an adjustment from taxes directly on business to taxing the people making a profit or income from business.

Just that the argument for what you are proposing is similar.

for all of the abandoned and black and disabled children you're taking care of. Very admirable. And, good to know the republican party is so committed to children in need. Without you a significant number of these kids would live in institutions their entire lives if the funding existed.  

especially the liberal wing.

and throw the little girl babies in the trash can!

...is only a formula for recovering the tax dollars lost by removing direct business tax & moving that same amount lost to that action to the upper income tax brackets, this idea would remove all of the complications business has with tax fileing because there would there would be none. There should be no question that action would make American business more competitve with the rest of the world & most people earning profit income from business are usually upper bracket tax payers, this proposal is a major simplification to the tax system.

Do you have any idea how much money is invested by the "little guys" who have their pensions, IRA's, 401K's etc invested in the stock market?

...Well GaG please tell us what stock market investments have to do with the idea I proposed, that looks like a smoke screen to me.

GaGa is one of the few honest and earnest on here, so I am curious of  your opinion.
First to answer your question, with this crowd?  Nah, probably not, Bigly and Laffy etc don't seem like sincere seekers of the truth, jsut sort of brainless libtards howlers, so why engage except to give them purple nurples for fun.

If the wall does indeed morph into a "virtual" wall and not the "big beautiful" wall that he campaigned on, most likely I will change my opinion, but I think spending tens of billions of dollars on an actual physical barrier that happens to be mainly on a river front is hardly the best use of our tax dollars.

I said the IRS rules says he is.  In fact, I don’t think he should be tax exempt either.  His church obviously makes a huge profit because it can pay him enough to own several homes.  I don’t think the separation of church and state provisions in the constitution meant to not tax churches - but there was no income tax back when the Constitution was drafted, so I don’t think it was a consideration.  

...I have "contempt, disdain and hatred for women"  and I have "the qualities of a Ray Rice and Woody Allen.  You said that because you were butt hurt that I said:  "You really don't give a shit about women, do you Harvey Weinstein?"

Middle of the night posting. This board really is your life. That's sad.

...loser who has nothing, but has to resort to dredging up old lies.  You "believe those words were used by different posters regarding a specific incident."  You don't know for sure?  You're just glomming onto bullshit posted by butt hurt righties and JokeFromTheFunny Farm, the Human Carpet, who does the bidding of an old, ugly hooker who can dish it out but can't take it.

Where do you “fill up” on all the lies, dishonesty and distortion o wait, as a miserable outcast you create it from within like all your, hate, anger and vitriol as it all flows from your mouth with the odor of dead fish.

Dredging up ancient crap, some of it about a poster who hasn't been seen on this board for months.  It's hilarious in its feebleness.
In other news, word on the street is Mamasan has really bad fish breath.  Some have called it Dead Fish Breath.

Harass, bully, intimidate and threaten them to do it, NOT because you earned it.