Politics and Religion

Finally something we agree on.
lester_prairie 12 Reviews 348 reads
posted
1 / 17

"Regulators around the world should threaten Musk with arrest if he doesn’t stop disseminating lies and hate on X." -- Robert (Third) Reich.
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In UK people are being arrested for memes.
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France arrests free speech platform Telegram CEO.
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Brazil blocks Twitter/X.
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Biden administration pressured X and other platforms to censor (many complied.)
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New York times publishes opinions calling for abolition of the US Constitution and free speech.
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Progressives are moving in all areas to eliminate freedom of speech.  Including packing the US Supreme Court to put "limits" on speech.  

inicky46 61 Reviews 54 reads
posted
2 / 17

Hint:  Fester is an official Looney Toon.

RespectfulRobert 52 reads
posted
3 / 17

I haven't seen Reich interviewed on this and wonder if he said it in anger, or walks it back at some point or whatever, but if he is serious, he is dead wrong on the issue.

Hpygolky 234 Reviews 60 reads
posted
4 / 17

And how is twitter handled there? Does Russia give twitter free speech?? I doubt it but maybe someone more knowledgeable then me can chime in?
And feel free if you have knowledge on how North Korea handles twitter as well.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 62 reads
posted
5 / 17
lester_prairie 12 Reviews 76 reads
posted
6 / 17

It's why I became libertarian. In the modern era rightwing ideologies are more open to individual liberties, so I support many Republicans. (The usual idiots will claim Nazis are rightwing, but Nazi is "national socialism" which is not rightwing and certainly not libertarian.)
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Trump is a populist. He's rebranding the GOP. Which is why the corrupt establishment fights him so hard. They lose power. I don't agree with every populist position, but it is a quantum improvement over the leftwing authoritarianism.

impposter 49 Reviews 65 reads
posted
7 / 17

"The usual idiots will claim Nazis are rightwing, but Nazi is "national socialism" which is not rightwing." You'll need to provide some sources for those claims. The proper emphasis is "NATIONAL socialism" not "national SOCIALISM." I refer you to wikipedia:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
"Nazism is the **far-right** totalitarian socio-political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in Germany. During Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitler **Fascism**. The later related term ***"neo-Nazism"*** is applied to other **far-right groups** with *similar* [not necessarily identical] ideas which formed after the Second World War when the Third Reich collapsed.
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"Nazism is a form of ****fascism****, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates a dictatorship, fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, anti-Slavism, anti-Romani sentiment, scientific racism, white supremacy, Nordicism, social Darwinism and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its ****extreme nationalism**** originated in pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement which had been a prominent aspect of German **ultranationalism** since the late 19th century."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism
"Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines fascism as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that **exalts nation** and often race ***above the individual*** and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, ***severe economic and social regimentation***, and ***forcible suppression of opposition.***
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
"Fascism is a **far-right**, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is placed on the **far-right wing** within the traditional left–right spectrum." [Hmm ... no mention of being "opposed to libertarianism" on that short list. Whaddy think: are fascists PRO-libertarianism or ANTI-libertarianism?"

Posted By: lester_prairie
Re: Free Speech is the defining issue.
It's why I became libertarian. In the modern era rightwing ideologies are more open to individual liberties, so I support many Republicans. (The usual idiots will claim Nazis are rightwing, but Nazi is "national socialism" which is not rightwing and certainly not libertarian.)  
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 Trump is a populist. He's rebranding the GOP. Which is why the corrupt establishment fights him so hard. They lose power. I don't agree with every populist position, but it is a quantum improvement over the leftwing authoritarianism.
Also from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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See my posts on "Trump Screws Business Partners ... Again"
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/trump-screws-business-partners--again-448578

inicky46 61 Reviews 48 reads
posted
8 / 17

to attract working class Germans to the party. But there was nothing remotely "socialist" about the party or its philosophy.The word "Nazi" comes from the German spelling of "National."
Also, Wanker and his righty pals don't seem to comprehend the difference between socialism and communism.
That said, the death toll from Communism is huge.
1) The Ukraine Famine of the 1920s.
2) The Gulag
3) The Maoist Chinese Communist predations.
4) The Cambodian killing fields.
And those are just the ones with death tolls in the millions.

inicky46 61 Reviews 50 reads
posted
9 / 17

Tell that to Alex Navalny. And lots of people in the gulag.
And all those people who have drunk the wrong tea or fallen out of windows. Or fallen out of the sky like Pregozhin.

RespectfulRobert 64 reads
posted
10 / 17

You didn't see all the anti Ukraine war activists rounded up and thrown in jail in Russia? How did you miss that? Wily you have said some crazy shit in the past but that is a wowzer, bro.

impposter 49 Reviews 59 reads
posted
11 / 17

"They said if you avoid talking politics, you can say whatever you want."
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In what dictionary is THAT free speech? ... Oh, ... The Putin Dictionary.  
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According the MAGA Dictionary, free speech means being able to "say whatever you want" as long as it isn't critical of Trump, disparaging of Trump, ridiculing Trump, pointing out the lies of Trump, ... [it's a longer list]

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: Russians have free speech rights?????????
I’m just going by what a couple Russian hookers told me. They said if you avoid talking politics, you can say whatever you want.
 

You don't need a "spell checker." You need a "nonsense checker."

RespectfulRobert 52 reads
posted
12 / 17

That's why Russians are fleeing their country to come to the West, like the US, because it's so good in Russia. smh

inicky46 61 Reviews 53 reads
posted
13 / 17

Russians don't "love" Putin.  They fear and loathe him.
The government doesn't give a shit about its citizens. It sends them off to an illegal war to die in "meat assaults."
It's true there's no "endless immigration" because no one wants to go there.
The country is rife with alcoholism and the economy is moribund because of its low birth rate.
The Russian government is a cabal or oligarchs who work only on behalf of themselves.
If Wanker thinks Russia is such a paradise compared to the US why doesn't he move there?
Question: why doesn't SwallowMeat call Wanker a "pinko" or "comrade?"

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 55 reads
posted
14 / 17

This started as a topic about censorship in the west. How the hell did Putin come up?

inicky46 61 Reviews 56 reads
posted
15 / 17

You've got to be a troll if you believe fake polls that give Putin a high approval rating. The Russian economy is smaller than that of Spain, which is tiny by comparison. It's growing now only because of the artificial stimulus of war spending.
You are right about Eastern Europe though. But that's only because they are now free of Russia.
As some have said, Russia "is a gas station with nukes."

impposter 49 Reviews 59 reads
posted
16 / 17

http://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
"Freedom House rates people’s access to political rights and civil liberties in 210 countries and territories through its annual Freedom in the World report. Individual freedoms—ranging from the right to vote to freedom of expression and equality before the law—can be affected by state or nonstate actors. Click on a country name below to access the full country narrative report."
[Global Freedom Scores] [Internet Freedom Score] [Democracy Score]
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http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-freedom-of-speech
"Countries with Freedom of Speech 2024
Russia 2023 34.77  
USA 2023 71.22 "
[I leave it to willy to guess which is better, a high score or a low score.]
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http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-index
"Freedom of expression index, 2023
Based on the expert estimates and index by V-Dem. It captures the extent to which people can voice their views and the media can present different political perspectives. It ranges from 0 to 1 (most free)."
Russia 0.10
USA 0.93 "
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http://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/the-dictators-dilemma-a-theory-of-propaganda-and-repression/
"The Dictator’s Dilemma: A Theory of Propaganda and Repression.
Repression and propaganda complement each other under dictatorships; with a higher level of repression, the leader’s marginal supporter is more disposed towards support and, therefore, can be more heavily manipulated."
[Simply: "The dictator's dilemma: To win with 95 percent or 99?"]
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MAGAs! WAKE UP!!

impposter 49 Reviews 76 reads
posted
17 / 17

willy brought up Communism. Hpy followed that by naming Russia. willy was the first to mention Putin and his extraordinary popularity according to Russian polling. I then mentioned "The dictator's dilemma: To win with 95 percent or 99?"

Posted By: lester_prairie
Re: How the hell
This started as a topic about censorship in the west. How the hell did Putin come up?

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