Posted By: marikod
The idea that NK will pay by providing Iran with nuclear technology is also misplaced, at least so far, as that would be a violation of the Iran agreement. We all know that Iran has complied with the agreement. Missile technology maybe.
So while your idea is interesting Doctor Gonzo, it is not logical.
One can not use mainstream logic when it comes to either the Ayatollah's, or the DPNK under the Kim Dynasty (if you have to ask, don't read any further).
You didn't read anything about billions of dollars in cash going missing during the Gulf Wars until it was far too late to do anything but complain. But it turned out to be true. To the tune of $11 billion and counting to my best recollection.
You didn't read anything about Abu Ghraib and the crimes at Guantanamo until it was a fait accompli, and the sacrificial lambs aka grunts, foot-soldiers, infantry, those who were "just following orders" were offered up on a silver platter to the public for mass consumption, while the perpetrators on Level 5 at Washington, DC 22202 collect medals and "Harumph!" for their LePetomane Puppetmasters. (a little over the top ya?)
Back to the Real, Mari. I surmise, based on my own studies, research, OPINION, personal experiences and real world observations that there is no way under the conditions that we know of, where North Korea could make such a major leap in advancing the technology without major outside help.
Now, look at the results of this latest test. If China has truly been involved, do you really think they would not have taken into account the potential for a catastrophic release of radiation into the atmosphere right next door? Not unless their programs of population control are so out of whack they felt the need for drastic measures... but we're nowhere near that tipping point.
The Russians would have the same concerns, unless you think they are ready to let go of 600,000 residents in Vladivostok, which would be directly in the path of any radiation cloud heading North East.
The Iranians on the other hand, have nothing to lose by redirecting their own nuclear ambitions in a collaborative effort with DPNK. And if your geography is lacking, its more than 6000 miles across China and 5 of the "Stans". Diplomatically, there are perfectly above board commercial flights between Tehran and Pyongyang via Beijing, on several Asian via multiple air carriers. And need I remind you that while the Iranians have allowed the IAEA inspectors to their now closed facilities. they have been refused access to ANY and ALL military installations. What was that you said? The silence is deafening.
So why is it so difficult to even consider the possibility, however remote you might think, that there is not some element of connection between the two governments, observable or covert?
How difficult do you think it is for a palette of dollar bills to fall of the truck like they did so often during the Gulf Wars and wind up in the hands of sinister outfits. And then find its way through back channels and black marketers to terror organizations? How easy do you think it is when the commodity being traded is information you can fit on a thumb drive...or the minds of brilliant scientists physicists and engineers flying commercial airliners to Beijing and then on to where did you say?
It is when you STOP applying the lessons of the media and start to put the pieces of the puzzle together you see a different perspective.
Mari, this is just an opinion, but one based on perspective and some serious dot-connecting. I do not reference any of my sources, but they typically have not been misdirected by the Sleight of Hand that has become in current times the Donald Trump Drama du Jour.
No, Marikod, it is not logical by the measuring stick of conventional and mainstream world politics.
Neither are the ambitions of Islamic Jihad, of which Iran is the worlds foremost enabler.
And Iran is Shiite, which are the enemies of the Sunni's led by Saudi Arabia.
Which is the worlds largest proponent of Sunni, who are the enemies of the Shiites.
Who are currently at war in Yemen. A once beautiful country and the former worlds largest source of frankincense myrrh and other rare herbs spices and healing resins used for thousands of years. Now close to extinction. Among other things.
No Marikod, there is no logic at work. Trying to apply conventional logic to our current world stage is short sighted and narrow minded. And with a hair trigger POTUS making life miserable for people who crave real news not Survivor: White House, we are getting more and more misdirection and less and less substance.
Maybe that's the real goal of the Russian influence in our elective process..... to distract us from the real moves being made on the other side of the game board.
The US is still playing geopolitics like it is a chess board.
It isn't. It's the game of GO, and we are not in good position.