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Shocker: Hillary Lied About “Uninsured Mom”
Buried deep in the back pages (in the “Politics” section) of the seldom-read Saturday edition of the New York Times:
Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells
By DEBORAH SONTAG

April 5, 2008

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

The sheriff’s deputy, Bryan Holman, had played host to Mrs. Clinton in his home before the Ohio primary. Deputy Holman said in a telephone interview that a conversation about health care led him to relate the story of Ms. Bachtel. He never mentioned the name of the hospital that supposedly turned her away because he did not know it, he said.

Deputy Holman knew Ms. Bachtel’s story only secondhand, having learned it from close relatives of the woman. Ms. Bachtel’s relatives did not return phone calls Friday.

As Deputy Holman understood it, Ms. Bachtel had died of complications from a stillbirth after being turned away by a local hospital for her failure to pay $100 upfront.

“I mentioned this story to Senator Clinton, and she apparently took to it and liked it,” Deputy Holman said, “and one of her aides said she’d be using it at some rallies.”

Indeed, saying that the story haunted her, Mrs. Clinton repeatedly offered it as a dire example of a broken health care system. At one March rally in Wyoming, for instance, she referred to Ms. Bachtel, a 35-year-old who managed a Pizza Hut, as a young, uninsured minimum-wage worker, saying, “It hurts me that in our country, as rich and good of a country as we are, this young woman and her baby died because she couldn’t come up with $100 to see the doctor.”

Mrs. Clinton does not name Ms. Bachtel or the hospital in her speeches. As she tells it, the woman was turned away twice by a local hospital when she was experiencing difficulty with her pregnancy. “The hospital said, ‘Well, you don’t have insurance.’ She said, ‘No, I don’t.’ They said, ‘Well, we can’t see you until you give $100.’ She said, ‘Where am I going to get $100?’

“The next time she came back to the hospital, she came in an ambulance,” Mrs. Clinton continued. “She was in distress. The doctors and the nurses worked on her and couldn’t save the baby.”

Since Ms. Bachtel’s baby died at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital, the story implicitly and inaccurately accuses that hospital of turning her away, said Ms. Weiss, the spokeswoman for O’Bleness Memorial said. Instead, the O’Bleness health care system treated her, both at the hospital and at the affiliated River Rose Obstetrics and Gynecology practice, Ms. Weiss said.

Although Mrs. Clinton has told the story repeatedly, it first came to the attention of the hospital after The Washington Post cited it as a staple of her stump speeches on Thursday. That brought it to the attention of The Daily Sentinel in Pomeroy, Ohio, which published an article on Friday.

Neither paper named the hospital or challenged Mrs. Clinton’s account.

How breathtakingly typical of Mrs. Clinton — and of course our watchdog media.


Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

But when has the cold and joyless one ever let such details get in the way of a self-serving story?

Of course the fact that the DNC’s New York Times reported this story at all is a stunning testament to how far the mighty Clintons have fallen.

Still, we are talking about two real life (and now dead) human beings here. Is there nothing that Hillary won’t lie about to promote herself and her socialist agenda?

At long last, Mrs. Clinton, have you no shame?

(These are rhetorical questions of course.)

In regards to your post of yet another lie by The Clinton's. . . If The Obama weren't running, we'd never receive this proof of the lying that we always suspected.

-- Modified on 4/5/2008 9:53:24 PM

Someone tells you a story they believe is true. You repeat it. It turns out that the person who told you got some of the facts wrong. Analysis: you are a liar.

Whatever.

Sort of like, you hear from Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore that Iraq has WMD and is a danger to the world. You get elected President and after Arabs attack your country, have the balls to invade Irag. Ooops, they don't have WMD. You lied.

Whatever.

for the facts that these Arabs had nothing to do with Iraq, and Iraq had nothing to do with them.  Sort of like if you couldn't figure out that not all English-speakers are blood relatives.

Well that and controlling the intelligence and military organizations that generate the facts.  And your own VP saying that we shouldn't occupy Iraq, because it's a mess.

It really makes no sense whatever to lie about one person dying for lack of health care when you could be lying about killing thousands of people for - for what?  I forget now, remind me.

People are lying about one person dying for lack of health care, when they could be lying about killing thousands of people for - for what?  I forget now, remind me.

Ok, so she is either a liar (which we already know, and the sniper snafu just reinforced), or she is incredibly naive, inept, and incompetent.

Myself, I choose all of the above.

"This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Posted by Chuck Darwin, 4/6/2008 7:50:06 AM  

People are lying about one person dying for lack of health care, when they could be lying about killing thousands of people for - for what?  I forget now, remind me."


   Unfortunately your mind is webbed with a convoluted thought process....FYI Hillary can't use the "thousands are dying" speech since she voted YES for the war..
The point of the original post..... Hillary is a pathological liar.
     Try and think before you speak.

of her, telling all her depressing "Sad Sack" stories. It would probably have people committing suicide before it ended.

I'm not trying to defend Hillary, ya dumb shit.

Do you think you can figure it out?  As in, Does Not Like Bush, or any Republican.  Does not Like Hillary, or Any Democrat.  Will Vote only trying to fuck up a fucked up system!!

Would like you to get a brain transplant.  It can't possibly make you worse, if they were to use a cow pie.

I am still wondering why the media ignored it when Hillary said that ultimately she would be the one to make the decisions in an interview with Diane Sawyer. That is a near exact paraphrase of Bush when he described himself as "the decider". The media ate his lunch when he said it, yet as usual they don't hold Hillary to the same standard. Really makes me wonder what the heck Hillary is talking about when she says the media is out to get her.

Will post, only trying to fuck up the thread?

Or

Will talk only trying to fuck up the conversation?

Or even

Will live only trying to fuck up life?

I can't wait for Patreus to testify again soon. Remember her rant about ". . . his report requires the willing suspesension of disbelief. . ."

Juxstpose that statement against HER recent lies.

How do you feel about that?

but you ARE IMPROVING!!

(in order to curry favor with the BushHating Foam at the Mouth Crowd) called Petreaus a liar in front of a worldwide audience.

She, and her disease riddled husband should be sent to Leavenworth.

are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who worshipped at her and The Rapist altar.

Her biggest, most damnable lie though is her willingness to let Bush take 100% of the fall regarding faulty intel on Iraq.

She is the Treason Queen

Hey hey hey, no C word allowed here.

Don't insult my pretty little kitty by comparing it to Hillary

about changing the rules in midstream.  Rules like "words mean things".  Treason has a very specific meaning, and I think that meaning could be applied to Bush as easily as it could Clinton.

Now, "faulty intel" is only a single problem with Iraq.  You could disregard that issue entirely, or the justification for the war entirely, and still question it on 2 serious issues of strategic mgmt, the 1st being, shouldn't we find bin Laden before we open a 2nd front?  Has anybody heard of Hitler's Russian front?

And the 2nd is/was, WTF didn't we think about what we were going to do once the place was knocked over?  Exactly what would be so hard about arranging a regional split before we went in there?  That is, whoever goes along gets 1st dibs on the leftovers?  Has nobody heard of loading the dice?

So what happened here?  Well, Bush bullied our Congress into the war, and 99% of them rolled over, believing they would look like wusses if they didn't approve.  Better be a fucking stupid jackass than a wuss, I suppose.  After all, it's not YOUR kids getting shot at; and YOUR campaign donors stand to make a ton of money there.  What's to lose, you know?

This is what happens when you elect a party that has sold out to religious freaks for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver.  They hear the voices in their heads tell them that schizophrenic foreign policy will improve next quarter's profits.

you have that trait confused improperly with the Dems.

their saying something makes it true.

that he was following orders to spew Bushit?

Ollie North was a hell of a Marine.  He was also a liar, because he hadn't been at it long enough to know what Smedley Butler did, that Republicans will sell you down the river for a nickel.

imitating and surpassing Obama schillers.

No wonder we are fucked.

Either it's the stench of this nation smoldering due to the waste our stupid goverment has wrought upon us OR you need to change your underwear more often!