Politics and Religion

Consider this:
zinaval 7 Reviews 2806 reads
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1 / 15


I don't know what to make of this.  It has to be one of the most detectable assassinations I've ever heard of.  They must have wanted him to suffer terribly and let critics know who had to be behind it.

Putin is at least as bad as any Soviet ruler.  It is the new USSR-- without the excuse of communism.

Ben Dover 3216 reads
posted
2 / 15
Bush Whacker 1887 reads
posted
3 / 15

The SPY was killed in the UK with Polonium 210. The radio-isotope is made by states with nuclear production capabilities.

Your assumption it was Russia that did it is premature. Eventual inspection of the Polonium 210 found in the spy's corpse will indicate where it was manufactured. BTW the half live of Po 210 is 168 days.

So tell us all how the killers got the Po 210 into the UK from Russia? Please be specific.

Or use Occam's Razor and suspect the Po 210 was made in the UK.

If it was made in the UK, then who becomes the suspect?

Why are liberals os content to believe in FOX news and the MSM when the story fits their conclusion.

Be a skeptic!

zinaval 7 Reviews 1968 reads
posted
4 / 15


According to the link, though, (did you read it, it was not Fox or MSN) the ex-spy himself is saying it was Putin.  

And it was apparently people who knew him pretty well who were slipping this into his food, and did  so several times.  

As for how they got it into the UK, maybe that was the point of it?  To somehow show that they could do it?  Britain has a long coastline. It would seem to me that if you bring it in a ship that's going along the normal routes, you could drop a couple guys off in a rowboat that would take it in through an unguarded place on the coast.  I mean, how much distance would that be?  Five miles?  Remember Dunkirk?

It wouldn't take a lot to poison the guy.  As an alpha emitter, it's not dangerous unless you actually ingest it or inhale it.  Its emissions are stopped by the first few layers of your skin, and then only if they were on your skin.  You wouldn't need to transport it in any special container, a bottle would probably do.    

What intrigues me is why anybody would take that much trouble with it.  Any other poison would do, and most conventional ones would be much quicker.  Perhaps the insult meant as much as the injury?  

Po 210 is a waste product from the processing of pitchblend, as I understand it, with no further use in nuclear processes  As such, it would be contained, but it wouldn't be controlled **as tightly** as reactive materials.  

Consider that there is a precedent for this.  The current Ukrainian president Yushchenko was poisoned with dioxin when he was running for the office.  He survived.  But it made him hideously ugly.  He too was a critic of Putin and anti-Russian.  And again, he was poisoned with a toxic waste product.      

Also, since Po 210 is a waste product removed at the very beginning of processing, I don't think it would have a signature, or at least not one that was kept on file.  

Gyppo 8 Reviews 3214 reads
posted
5 / 15

How did they get it to the UK?
Try a direct flight from Moscow to London in a diplomatic pouch to the Russian Embassy.  It is exempt from any customs inspection.  
It is very easy to move small amounts this way.

Bush Whacker 1551 reads
posted
6 / 15

Yet you already swallow the MSM tabloid crap he was murdered.

When you know the cause of death maybe your gratuitous assertion he was even murdered will have any credibility.

Point: No one has ever been killed using polonium.

Bush Whacker 1630 reads
posted
7 / 15

And when was the auopsy performed?


oops!  nevermind. We already know no cause of death has been determined. All we have is a politically motivated accusation from a dead guy.

That shold be enough for anyone.. right?

zinaval 7 Reviews 1558 reads
posted
8 / 15


It's not like I'll lose my credibility while I get about a half-million people killed-- something like what Bush has done.  I might be cautious if that's what's on the line.  It's far better to be right, but I don't mind being wrong when it's just a matter of me being wrong.  

Now, about your "point": I don't think it's your real point.  Are you trying to tell me that I'm being less fair to Vlad Putin than to say-- Bill Clinton?  That I'm trusting sources like MSN before I trust the RNC?  The fact that I would believe the Flat Earth Society about astronomy before I would believe the Republicans about Clinton?  

Is that the conversation you really want?

zinaval 7 Reviews 2190 reads
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9 / 15
Gyppo 8 Reviews 1758 reads
posted
10 / 15

They found Po 210 in his body, in the resturant, in his home, and in a coffee shop.  It was the cause of death.  
Why don't you tell us where else this guy could have come is contact with Po?  As I understand it only can be made in nuclear facilities and has a short half life.  But a small amount is a sure death.  Even if the medical community figure it out, their is nothing that can be done for the victim.  Everything about this has the mark of the KGB (or whatever they call themselves now)!

jack0116533 14 Reviews 1469 reads
posted
11 / 15

it'd be a hell of a lot eaiser to run him down in the street and make it look like an accident, or mug him, and make it look like simple street crime.

Polonium is just too unusual.

OTOH, you are right that it's a very good bet that anything coming within the gravity field of the Republicans is disinformation.

loratad 60 Reviews 1617 reads
posted
12 / 15

Actually, poison, especially radioactive poison has been a favorite method of the KGB for about 80 years.

jack0116533 14 Reviews 1664 reads
posted
13 / 15

and as far as that's so, I guess they're as amateur as anybody, because it's pretty much a giveaway.

I suppose they don't worry a lot about plausible deniability, but it seems to me there's a lot easier and more anonymous ways to do it.   Maybe they're thinking they WANT people to know it's them, for deterrent value.

Gyppo 8 Reviews 2350 reads
posted
14 / 15

It maybe a dead give away, but its also a sure kill.  Once the victim has taken it, hes as good as dead.  I don't think there is anyway to stop it.

They also may have wanted to leave an example for others.  They get a little bad press and some politicical objections.  But the western nations won't do anything other than expell a diplomat.

loratad 60 Reviews 1664 reads
posted
15 / 15

Well, I don't know everyones name but it has been very widely reported that that the KGB does this regularly (even have special group that develops these poisons).  It was even on the evening news tonight.  As far as dead giveaway...its less obvious that a bullet between the eyes.  Also with a short half life the radiation will disappear before any tests are done and death appears to be from natural causes.  Physicists, help me out here.

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