If you have uncontrollable TDS see your Dr. before you lose your job.

http://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooting-cbs-hayley-geftman-gold-2017-10

This is not about left or right.
It's about a evil mindset period!

That Newsweek article notes that White men are UNDER REPRESENTED as mass shooters (counting men only.. all mass shooters are men).  
But wait! says Big, it says they are the Majority! Hah!... well, gee, white men overall are the majority (of men)
White men currently are over 65% of men, and thru 1984, the period used, the average would be higher, let's call it 75%. So, for a group that is 75% of the male population, only 54% of mass shootings?  Under Represented.  Whites commit fewer mass shootings than you would expect based on their share of the population.

Meanwhile the same article notes blacks "only" responsible for a mere 16%.  But blacks are only 13% of the population, a stable number from the 80's til now.
Blacks are OVER REPRESENTED as mass shooters. But, they are less over represented for mass shootings than for shootings overall, where they are massively over represented.

But, do you really want to go tit-for-tat in regards to who, on the left or the right, can say the dumbest things?

“'One thing I love about — unfortunately — these tragedies that happen, the reaction from the American people coming together,' she explained."

40,000  deaths  from vehicular crashes in 2016.  
 Close to 11000 of those deaths were due to drunk drivers.  
   
Is it the keys or the person causing the death ?  
Drunk driving laws are more severe than twenty years ago yet drunks continue to drive drunk and kill.  

 
The terrorist in Las Vegas responsible for killing dozens of innocent people made trip after trip to his room with suitcases full of weapons.  
  No metal detectors looking for weapons when walking through Mandalay Bay doors yet all casinos in Vegas  monitor every gambler there  to ensure they aren't counting cards or cheating the casino out of five dollars.
 
    I believe many murders  could be avoided with strategically located metal detectors silently searching for hidden weapons.  
   I do not believe tougher gun laws reduce the amount of murders unless you count suicide as murder.  
   I believe someone committed to suicide will find a way to cease to exist whether they have a gun or not.

   When the anti gun crowd starts howling for more gun control untold tens of thousands buy more guns.  

   When children don't learn the difference between right and wrong in a civilized society  more often they tend to show uncivilized tendencies during their  adult years .  
 
   I wouldn't be surprised if Paddock refused to  stand for our National Anthem.
   
         

 

"According to Okafor, Democrats are “the problem” because they bring up gun safety laws following every mass shooting."

"“We have Baltimore, we have Chicago, we have St. Louis, we have all these places that are ridden with violence,” the NRA pundit opined. “And we’ve implemented more and more gun control as the years have gone on. So, the policy is not working.”
Okafor concluded by finding a bright side to America’s epidemic of gun violence.
“One thing I love about — unfortunately — these tragedies that happen, the reaction from the American people coming together,” she explained. “And one thing I think we’re very good at is problem solving. And so I believe if we’re willing to change the direction that we’ve been in before… you know, we voted for President Trump because we wanted a difference.”
“I think it’s important that if we listen to our president, if we listen to the leadership and the advice that he has in the future going on forward that we can actually make change in this horrible circumstance so that this doesn’t happen in the future,” Okafor said."

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So people have to deal with the real problem first!

Also if Australia can do it.
Then America can do it too!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-australia-gun-control-1004-story.html

The gun laws are not strong enough, especially on the state level in some areas.

I think the Mother Jones source for the Newsweek claims uses 3 or more shot.  So the ubiquitous ghetto drive by gets lumped in there, but those have low body counts and bad aim and often crimes of passion.
Highly planned, organized, and sickeningly effective mass shootings seem to be White guys (and Asians) mostly, like the most organized violence overall: war.
Haven't looked it up, but I would bet Honkies are pretty disproportionately high on body count.  And this one incident would tilt that average a lot more.

BTW, happy to restrict automatic weapons and 'bump stocks' which turn semi auto into them as much as anyone wants.  

Yep. I'll go tit for tat with you.  
    Show me your examples of Right wing people working for Main stream media  in positions of authority, foaming at the mouth with hateful rhetoric like the  CBS executive,  Hayley Geftman-Gold, a vice president in the strategic transactions department at CBS,  when she  wrote  she was not sympathetic to the victims of the shooting in Las Vegas because country music fans are often Republicans and own guns.  
   
   No doubt in my mind Main stream media is a consistent  partisan supporter of left wing politicians.  
   
  When I say Main Stream media I am speaking of supposedly trustworthy public news channels such as CBS, NBC, ABC, not sources most of us realize are extremely biased with their opinions like Hannity, Huff & Puff, CNN or the NRA.

What constitutes mainstream media. Volume of viewership? Method of journalism? Degree of adherence to the profession's ethical standards? Or, just by making a pronouncement; much like when someone has been reduced to name calling?  

Just ask the NRA who "bribes" the Republicans!

http://nyti.ms/2xTIALY

Main Stream is Free like every  Main Street I've  driven  on in America.
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/most-beautiful-main-streets-america
     
In the back wood hills and many unfortunate city citizens everyone doesn't have the luxury of pay for cable  TV.  

 In other words if they're a free TV channel I consider  those channels as Main Stream.  
 ABC, CBS, NBC are the three largest that come to mind.
 That's just my opinion,  I'm sure uncountable thousands would call Fox or CNN main stream  

One of my  Lefty friends here might believe Raw Story or Onion is Main Stream.    
 
I believe  Fox is as biased as CNN, twins with different Mothers and upbringing.  
I don't consider either of the two as Main Stream,  

Any of the pay for channels can be bought.  

ABC, CBS and NBC are Free unless you paid for them in your Cable package.  
 FREE TV = Main Stream   Final Answer .  
 

 I'm glad you brought it up.  
Instead of starting another thread, what channels do you consider as Main stream ?  

 I almost forgot, PBS is also a  Main stream channel IMO.
 My apologies  for venturing off topic.

   

Do you have a clue at all,  how many Democrats are gun owners, hunters, marksmen, wanna be Jesse's ?  
   Most Democrats who own weapons are not members of NRA.
   
  It's funny how such a small organization as the NRA can instill so much fear in my Lefty Friends who look at the NRA  as a GOP club.  
  If twenty percent of Lefties admit they belong to the NRA what is the true count?  

 There are millions and millions of Democrat voters who will stay home if you push the no gun zone in their face,  
     
    Your Party  is writing another how to lose  book.  
    Carry on my Friend.

Maybe true but I doubt it. But 70 percent of NRA members, republicans and democrats want sensible gun control.
But it won't happen, 23 children being gunned down hasn't changed shit so fuck it...
So you feel safe now? Heading to any out door concerts???

The possibility of getting killed by a drunk driver on my  way to or when returning from the outdoor venue I'm attending this week end is my only fear.  
   
Never had a loved one killed by a deranged individual with a gun but  unfortunately  I know first hand how quick and callously drunk drivers can kill.

  I'd prefer to see much stricter laws for drunks driving weapons of destruction killing innocent children and adults.
 
   Second  offense for drunk driving, death penalty does not seen too harsh IMO when considering how many people witless drunkards in their vehicles kill.  

   Why doesn't Media focus on drunk drivers like they do on deranged individuals with guns ?  
   Without statistical analysis I can only surmise most Main Stream journalists are non gun owning Drunkard Morons.

   

   

   

accept bribes from the NRA?

You're conflating two points!  Virtually no one - obviously including dem NRA members,- is saying "eliminate guns."  Most gun owners favor background checks and some gun control.  It's the NRA and their bribed repub Congressmen who fight gun control EVERY INCH of the way

https://www.americanprogress.org/press/release/2015/11/17/125618/release-gun-owners-overwhelmingly-support-background-checks-see-nra-as-out-of-touch-new-poll-finds/    

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I guess you need to be unable to chew gum and walk at the same time to understand this.

-- Modified on 10/6/2017 4:51:31 PM

I wouldn't expect drunkard moron journalists to focus on two issues at the same time when most of their programmers writing their words  can't come  up with one original thought.  
     
Drunkard  journalists are a lot like drunkard board trolls, not much substance but an enormous amount of stuttering/modifying.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PStpvviPgxk

 I don't need Conan to tell me.    
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLXQ0qbq6jY

I rarely comment on your posts because you are not worth the effort.  But your attempt to suggest we should stop working to pass gun laws and focus instead on drunk drivers was so imbecilic I just had to point it out.  Don't worry, I don't plan on making a habit of it. Now go dress up in your MAGA hat and whack off to Donnie's bloated photo.

The only thing you could do to upset my peace of mind, the outside chance I'm driving on a way street while  you're in a drunkard stupor  driving the wrong way toward me.
 Other than that scenario you are no more concern to me than the occasional centipede  I  squash.
   
Your attempt to translate words I didn't write, just another drunken  misstep by you, the board "drunker" fool.
 

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/most-drunks-cant-walk-straight-on-their-own-without-someone-holding-them-up-320899?page=1

Quad you are not fooling anyone on here.

Yet virtually every pro choice legislator (every single democrat) fight any restriction on abortion, even "late term" abortions EVERY INCH of the way.

 
They do so for the very same reason the NRA and it's members dig in their heels at every "common sense" bill that is proposed. It is the stated goal of many "anti gunners", the same as it is the goal of many "right to lifers" to strip away gun (abortion) rights piece by piece with the ultimate goal of eliminating guns (abortions) altogether.

 
Your statement that "virtually no one" is saying "eliminate guns" is patently false as there are countless people out there who would be advocating for the elimination of all guns (abortions) is they thought it was possible politically.

I see Trump and his thugs are very busy helping their master Putin.
It's like Quad, took you to Russia for special training.  

So you have no credibility on this subject and we don't believe your bullshit.

They can't do it! If the Democrats had both houses in Congress and the presidency, and they passed and signed a law doing so, it would be ruled unconstitutional. At the chagrin of the Originalist, on the SC, the original wording in Article I. of the Constitution, which seemed to limit the ownership of guns to a well regulated militia; the National Guard, in this case would be the closest thing we have today. However, since just after the Civil War, that clause has been interpreted to mean that all citizens have a right to bear arms, for self protection. Nothing, since then, has changed. However, though the NRA would like that right to be limitless; no restrictions on type and number weapons, the Second Amendment does not grant that. Though they like to conflate the two; the right to gun ownership, with it being limitless. It's not! So much for your slippery slope argument and the NRA's dishonesty!  

and that you concede there really are a LOT of people who do indeed want to take my guns?

 
Thank you for providing proof positive, however unintended, that I am correct.

a hypothetical, be my guest!

"If the Democrats had both houses in Congress and the presidency, and they passed and signed a law doing so, it would be ruled unconstitutional."

That's not a declarative statement about the actual intend of the Democrats in Congress, the "if" makes it a hypothetical. But, go ahead! Knock yourself out!

I was just attempting to sooth your fears!

can offer-up ANY evidence some Congressman or such wants to confiscate everyone's’guns, can you?