Trump is a fucking moron.

Even before the so-called "negotiations" with Russia began for peace a deal on Ukraine, Trump's Secretary of State conceded two important bargaining points: Ukraine membership into NATO; Ukraine retaining territory won back from Russia. Trump is Putin's useful idiot, and make no mistake Putin has his eyes on Poland next. Meanwhile, China is waiting in the wings, deciding when would be a good time to invade Taiwan.

You need to include Hegseth in that.
Trump, Rubio and Hegseth have effectively knee-capped Ukraine at the start of negotiations.
Putin and Xi are BOTH rubbing their hands with glee.

And John McCain. And Lindsay Graham. And the rest of the Deep Staters and Democrats who have spent the last 20 some odd years screwing with Russia for reasons they *refuse* to explain.  

I have tried to give Trump some space and not overreact to things but this is truly despicable. Even the Wall Street Journal is ripping him and much criticism is coming from the Right. That said, there is a reason Putin attacked Ukraine and that is due in part to Ukraine not being in NATO. I do not think Putin will invade Poland. Putin likes the good life and that would end if he attacked there.

I meant Trump's Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, not Trump's Secretary of State, who gave away America's bargaining positions even before "negotiations" began. It re-enforces Hegseth's lack of qualification to his appointed position.

While I’ll agree that it’s unlikely that Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Trump had been presidents, his current negotiating stance, giving big concessions to Russia before  Ukraine is even brought into the negotiations, is idiotic.

a win for either side.  A successful compromise is one that neither side likes but that they can live with, because the cost of NOT compromising is too expensive, in this case, both financially and in human life.  Ukraine will now tell the Americans what THEY want, and then the real negotiations start.  

This is what happens in war. The losing team makes massive concessions. A war that never would have happened if that cunt Victoria Nuland hadn’t orchestrated a coup and overthrown Ukraine’s democratically elected government to install a dancer turned dictator, who by the way, had an American citizen fucking murdered just for exposing some of his corruption. For years human rights organizations warned that Ukrainian neo-nazis were committing acts of ethnic cleansing, and little war criminal weasels like Lindsay Graham and John McCain went over to Ukraine to give them pep talks and encourage them. The fact is that Russia, every step of the way, used incredible restraint despite constant provocations until the deep state installed a brain dead President who made things so much worse that Putin could hold his nose no longer. And they did this to a country THAT HAS MORE FUCKING NUKES THAN WE DO.  

which is what Trump, et al, have done.
On top of that, Trump is now shitting on Zelensky, calling him a dictator when that's an apt description of Putin and of what Trump would love to be.
This guy must be the worst negotiator on the planet.
And the victim is Ukraine.

The biggest loser is Putin. He has only gained a tiny amount of land in three years while losing more than 850,000 men, 10,000 tanks and most of the rest of his armored force.
The Russians are now forced to use mini-vans and appropriated civilian cars  to move their troops. To move supplies they are now using donkeys. DONKEYS you stupid fuck. That's winning in your book?
They also have lost a huge amount of their oil refining capacity, the Ruble is in the toilet and their economy is on its back,
If that's what you call winning I'd hate to see what losing is like.
Putin is lucky he hasn't been defenestrated.

Why did damn near a million Russian men need to die? So fucking cunts like Nuland can overthrow a country with nukes instead of overthrowing Ukraine a country that has biolabs? How is any of this in our interest?

It's in our interest that Putin not conquer Ukraine and then turn on the rest of Europe. Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom but also so Europeans and Americans won't have to.

I think it simply proves that Putin actually DOES have video of Trump being pissed on by Russian hookers in a Moscow hotel room years ago.

I'll explain it more as it unfolds.  First, the US envoys have no authority to concede anything, but they can probe to see what one side will accept, KNOWING that they will later negotiate them out of this position.  It's just setting the table.  The meal hasn't started yet.  Relax and see how it unfolds.  He's moving the goal posts a little, that's all.  

How would we feel if China overthrew Cuba’s government to make it more friendly to Cuba, plus get them to join a military alliance and then China set up bio weapons labs in Cuba.  

Putin is a straight up Bond Villian mother fucker! He’s killed more people than the plague. He’s in possession of a nuclear arsenal that is larger and more developed than ours. The only thing we have done in furthering nuclear weapons in the is arsenal is updating our sub launched ISBMs. The Russians kept developing better stronger faster delivery systems that we did not. So there’s that.  

cuck-douche-liar - you're an arrogant little war criminal putin cock sucking loser you filthy traitorous little cunt. AND you're full of absolute shit. loser

Epic fail. Loser. Fuck you maga cunst are so fucking gone it would comical if it were not so tragically fucking stupid.

kowtowing to putin isn't the answer. lost bitch the country betraying cunt.  

I'm not a country betraying traitor like lost bitch the fucking magamoron traitor cunt loser.  Fuck you're dumb.