I was thinking to write "Has DeSantis slit his own throat?" and destroyed his campaign hopes? Nah, the base loves this. DeSantis actually said, of government employees, he will "start slitting throats" on his first day in power. Insane.
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/04/ron-desantis-slitting-throats-federal-jobs-president-campaign
Outrage after DeSantis says he’d ‘start slitting throats’ if elected president.
"Rightwing Florida governor and 2024 presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis was widely condemned after he said that if elected to the White House, he would “start slitting throats” in the federal bureaucracy on his first day in power. ..."
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"... Among commentators, the columnist Max Boot called DeSantis’s words “deranged” while Bill Kristol, founder of the Bulwark, a conservative site, said the governor was “making a bold play to dominate the maniacal psychopath lane in the Republican primary”. ..."
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"... “We’ve seen too often in recent years – from the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 to the sacking of the [US] Capitol on January 6 2021 – that violent anti-government rhetoric from politicians has deadly consequences.” ..."
Democrats will certainly claim it was meant literally, but DeSantis could be the one who finally drains the swamp in the way Trump promised and never delivered.
Agree. DeSantis seems to be much more capable of draining the swamp than Trump was.
What we DO say it was over-the-top language that was uncalled for and plays to the more thuggish among the electorate.
The only swamp DeathSantis is going to drain is the Okefenokee.
well-adjusted Democrats, not the maniacal leftists. Lol
"Probably metaphorical"? Sure! DeSantis meant he was going to butcher some pigs and serve hog jowls and pork rinds at his inauguration picnic.
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Bill Kristol is a staunch conservative: "Bill Kristol, founder of the Bulwark, a conservative site, said the governor was “making a bold play to dominate the maniacal psychopath lane in the Republican primary”."
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"MAKING A BOLD PLAY TO DOMINATE THE MANIACAL PSYCHOPATH LANE IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY."
Democrats will certainly claim it was meant literally, but DeSantis could be the one who finally drains the swamp in the way Trump promised and never delivered.
Saw an interesting bit noting that DeSantis is already building the center-right coalition he’ll need to win the General Election. The “slit their throats” comment is just a pitch to the right wing portion of that base.
DeSantis playing some real 3D chess here!
This morning, a bunch of pieces fell into place as to what his true game plan might be. I have to continually remind myself we’re dealing with some crazy next-level genius here.
Let’s start with what’s happening in Iowa and NH as we speak. He’s running a virtually unopposed retail ground campaign. Officials in both places say they’ve never seen anything like it.
Retail politics is meeting people, and local media coverage of you doing it. You don’t just meet deep red Rs, you meet independents and even curious Dems.
He will likely build his center-right coalition in every primary state he targets. Those will be done deals, so he can now focus on running up the scoreboard.
Remember, he loves to do that.
The swing states are mostly a given. The center right coalition is powerful, and it works well almost everywhere. Frankly, it’s the most successful strategy in modern politics right now.
That leaves DeSantis free to seriously start attacking deep blue states like NY and CA. Dems will have to vigorously defend their turf. Or he starts going after a bunch of easy ones like NM and NJ.
He’s figured out how election decisions are typically made, and has decided to invent an entirely new approach. One that we haven’t seen before.
I hope you all are enjoying the show?
I certainly am.
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Only our dullest and most partisan tool would imagine DeSantis' thuggish phrasing equates to 3D anything.
Shakespeare wasn't too sexy for the people of the SIXTEENTH century but he is for reactionary Republicans of the 21st century:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/08/florida-schools-shakespeare-sexual-material
Yes, Ron DeSantis - in the words of cks175: "...we’re dealing with some crazy next-level genius here."
...because he's veered too far to the right. cks175: "(He’s Building A Center-Right Coalition)" ROFLMAO!
Or maybe they just don't understand 3D chess.
http://www.ft.com/content/9ebbe70c-48a5-41ae-95fe-45872566ed4b
Pay walled article. Did the author mention who these supposed donors would support in lieu of DeSantis? Tim Scott? No Labels?
You can google something like "Billionaire donors cool on Ron DeSantis over rightwing policies" and get several unblocked stories, e.g.,
http://www.afr.com/world/north-america/billionaire-donors-cool-on-ron-desantis-over-his-move-to-far-right-20230724-p5dqvt
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/04/ron-desantis-donor-super-pac-florida
http://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/04/desantis-biggest-donor-says-he-wont-give-more-money-unless-changes-are-made.html
Pay walled article. Did the author mention who these supposed donors would support in lieu of DeSantis? Tim Scott? No Labels?
Trump as President. How can you call him a "staunch conservative". If anyone thinks he is, then they are buying a load of bull. Kristol is against any Republican who can beat Biden, and that includes both DeSantis and Trump.
BTW, I think hog jowls and pork rinds are found in some other Southern states. I've never seen it on a menu in Florida, but it's some very colorful imagery, just the same.
and a Never Trumper, but he is no longer a Republican. Then again, Trump's Republican Party is no longer staunchly conservative.
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Trump is no conservative. In fact, he's thrown away bedrock conservative principles in favor of culture warfare. The fact that many true conservatives haven't followed him proves that they are the true conservatives.
Trump is a demagoguing, psychopathic egomaniac with no true ideological principles at all.
Americans were doing a lot better financially under Trump than under Biden. Inflation and rising interest rates have moved many in the middle class to the lower classes. Biden is a spineless, cognitively-challenged, corrupt politician who lies every day to the American people and takes his marching orders from the bureaucrats that are supposed to be working for HIM. He still says he never met any of Hunter's business associates despite the photos of him hanging around them to earn his share of the massive slush-fund payments for access. $5,000,000 for Hunter, $5,000,000 for Joe from China and then his lawyers had to retrieve classified documents from an office he kept in Chinatown where Chinese nationals could come and go without arousing much curiosity in the neighborhood. The only corruption charge against Trump is the hooker payment and allegedly cooking the books to cover it up, according to convicted liar Cohen. This was NOT while he was in office, where Joe's corruption was, and continues while he is Prez.
Thanks for regurgitating every bullshit, right-wing, red herring EVER. What a monumental load of manure you just excreted! Here! Have some more!!!
Don't confuse conservative with MAGA Cult Member. Kristol is the former, not the latter.
Trump as President. How can you call him a "staunch conservative". If anyone thinks he is, then they are buying a load of bull. Kristol is against any Republican who can beat Biden, and that includes both DeSantis and Trump.
BTW, I think hog jowls and pork rinds are found in some other Southern states. I've never seen it on a menu in Florida, but it's some very colorful imagery, just the same.
you vote for the conservative in the primary, but if your man is not the eventual nominee, you still support the Republican nominee. Otherwise, you are handing you vote to the Dem nominee by not voting. This is what Bill Kristol did. Most Republicans say that ANY nominee would be better than Biden, but if they carve out an exception for Trump, and he wins the nomination, they are just RINOs. If Robert Kennedy was to take the nomination from Biden, and you did not support him, then you would be handing your vote to the Republican nominee. It's the same thing Kristol did.
http://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/michael-luttig-conservative-judge-republicans-cnntv/index.html
Ex-federal judge and prominent conservative: ‘There is no Republican Party’
" J. Michael Luttig, a conservative retired federal judge and key adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, declared on Wednesday that “there is no Republican Party” and said former President Donald Trump is even more dangerous than he was in the aftermath of the 2020 election.
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“American democracy simply cannot function without two equally healthy and equally strong political parties. So today, in my view, there is no Republican Party to counter the Democratic Party in the country, ... And for that reason, American democracy is in grave peril.” ..."
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"... Luttig, who holds bona fide conservative credentials with longstanding ties to the Supreme Court, has become increasingly outspoken in sharing his criticisms of the GOP, calling the party “spineless” in June over its continued support of Trump.
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“A political party is a collection and assemblage of individuals who share a set of beliefs and principles and policy views about the United States of America. Today, there is no such shared set of beliefs and values and principles or even policy views as within the Republican Party for America,” he said on Wednesday. ..."
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"... While testifying last year before the House Select Committee tasked with investigating January 6, Luttig called Trump “a clear and present danger to American democracy.” ..."
you vote for the conservative in the primary, but if your man is not the eventual nominee, you still support the Republican nominee. Otherwise, you are handing you vote to the Dem nominee by not voting. This is what Bill Kristol did. Most Republicans say that ANY nominee would be better than Biden, but if they carve out an exception for Trump, and he wins the nomination, they are just RINOs. If Robert Kennedy was to take the nomination from Biden, and you did not support him, then you would be handing your vote to the Republican nominee. It's the same thing Kristol did.
This reminds me of the time that Sam Harris said that Trump winning the 2020 election would be worse than if a meteor hit the earth, wiping out all life on the planet. Yes, he seriously said this. He then went on to say that if the 2020 election was stolen it would be worth it and justified because Trump winning would have been so horrible.
Sam ended up losing a lot of friends over this comment. None of those friends Trump supporters. Just supporters of sanity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Michael_Luttig
J. Michael Luttig
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"On the bench, Luttig was compared to Justice Scalia for his analytical rigor and for criticizing his colleagues for inconsistencies or embellishments in their judicial opinions and right-wing extremism. He was also similar to Scalia in that his judicial philosophy sometimes led to what were seen as some anti-conservative opinions.
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"Luttig was mentioned frequently as being near the top of George W. Bush's list of potential nominees to the Supreme Court of the United States despite opposition from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and a dispute between Luttig and the Bush administration over the handling of the case of alleged "dirty bomber" Jose Padilla (see below). Bush interviewed Luttig but ultimately did not choose him to fill either of two Supreme Court vacancies in 2005. Those two seats were filled by John Roberts and Samuel Alito."
This reminds me of the time that Sam Harris said that Trump winning the 2020 election would be worse than if a meteor hit the earth, wiping out all life on the planet. Yes, he seriously said this. He then went on to say that if the 2020 election was stolen it would be worth it and justified because Trump winning would have been so horrible.
Sam ended up losing a lot of friends over this comment. None of those friends Trump supporters. Just supporters of sanity.
That a Dem like imp is carrying water for. Isn’t it odd that all the neocons joined the Democrat party. You guys believe every other establishment lie from Covid to Russia stole the 2016 election, why not believe that Saddam was behind 9/11 and Iraq had WMDs too?