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Agreed, both sides are using hyperbole.
JackDunphy 29 reads
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We don't even have nearly enough info, if we are all being honest. We don't have the McCabe testimony for example. R's are saying he said the dossier was key in getting the warrant, D's say the opposite. Let's find out.

 
Once again, I am with Dershowitz and Turley on this one; release it all, protecting sources and methods, and let the truth fall where it may.  

 
Not sure if anyone caught Maggie Haberman from the NY Times last night on CNN, but she did say there were troubling things the FBI has done re: civil rights and there are things from the R memo that need to be investigated.  

 
And if anyone thinks the FBI is somehow above reproach, just google Hoover and his bureau surveilling MLK for over a decade and see what you find.

This memo didn't expose anything other then some knucklehead (page) was being surveilled. And for good cause. There wasn't anything earth shattering that came from it. And the FBI investigation started when Papadopolos opened his big mouth, not that Steele Dossier.
To get a FISA court order once is hard, to get it renewed a second and third is tough and it shows that there's something there.
Now republicans are crying that poor Page is a victim of an over zealous FBI to have him surveilled. How republicans are quick to go after the FBI and who's next, the FISA Courts..
I wonder if Page was a Muslim, and he was surveilled the way page was, would republicans give a shit??
It was a great day for Russia....when are we going to stop being the laughing stock of the Kremlin?
Going to Vegas for the super bowl...fuck this shit

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LLLrelax43 reads

The kremlin lost control 1/20/2017 when the divider in chief left the whithouse, let’s not forget the hot mic “I’ll have more latitude when I’m re- elected “  
Fusion,podesta,wasserman,aman brothers, stankles,storks all dnc, steele a stooge making up dirt with help from your comrades think pee pee.  
Fuck the no fans left league,Sunday will be a great day and a sunset sail.  
Drink that koolaid from the swines trough enjoy 😎

"This memo is like Al Capone’s safe and Geraldo — it’s a big nothing...the difference is when Geraldo opened the safe and there was nothing there, back in those days, there wasn’t a TV network dedicated to telling you that there was great treasure in the empty safe. Now there is."

 

Even WORSE, that pendejo Rivera, a Fox News contributor, was on Sean Hannity’s radio show Thursday, praising Hannity’s efforts to protect the Trump presidency from Robert Mueller’s investigation.

 

Geraldo displayed his talent for ventriliquism by sucking Hannity's dick while saying:  "Nixon never would have been forced to resign if you existed in your current state back in 1972, '73, '74.  It’s too bad for Nixon, because nobody like you existed then."  

 

Shepard Smith talking to Chris Wallace on Fox News said (first quoting raving righties):  "It's a bombshell; it's a smoking gun.  Look at it - it's a disgrace what's happening in this country.  If you look at it and you see it, it's a disgrace.  I've looked at it.  I've seen it.  I don't see it."  Do you see it?  (to Chris Wallace)

 

Chris Wallace:  "I don't know."

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...why did Dems lie to us all week with their hair on fire that methods and sources would be released when they were NOT?

 
Cant have it both ways hyper.

 
And the super bowl is in Minnesota, btw. lol

wrps0745 reads

Why did former cia director Leon Panetta come out and state that FISA memo release sends bad signal to our foreign intelligence agencies we get information from ?  

 I'm hearing FISA memo released on Friday is just 1/10th of memos that will be released.  

It possible that folks in the UK will be put in jail along with folks in the US for this spying scandal.

We don't even have nearly enough info, if we are all being honest. We don't have the McCabe testimony for example. R's are saying he said the dossier was key in getting the warrant, D's say the opposite. Let's find out.

 
Once again, I am with Dershowitz and Turley on this one; release it all, protecting sources and methods, and let the truth fall where it may.  

 
Not sure if anyone caught Maggie Haberman from the NY Times last night on CNN, but she did say there were troubling things the FBI has done re: civil rights and there are things from the R memo that need to be investigated.  

 
And if anyone thinks the FBI is somehow above reproach, just google Hoover and his bureau surveilling MLK for over a decade and see what you find.

I said we need more info. Let's see what McCabe said. Lets see if the FISA court was lied to by commission or omission.  

 
Was the court told that the dossier was oppo research paid for by the Clinton camp? Did the FBI even know at that time it was oppo research?

 
Don't you think it is important to find out if the FBI surveilled an American citizen without due cause?

 
The one thing we do know is that many Dems all week were saying the memo would hurt national security bc it would reveal methods and sources but we now know that was a lie.

 
Other than that, all we have now is hearsay, on both sides Matt, so any valid and factual conclusions either way, are impossible as of now.  

 
Let's get ALL the pertinent facts into the public domain, with proper measures to protect those sources and methods, and then we can draw conclusions.

hyperbole, name calling or personal attacks. I enjoy dialoging with you in this manner. Yes, we agree that the FBI is not beyond reproach. I was more responding to who has more credibility; the FBI or Trump. Where we differ is that I would have the Inspector General of the AG investigate if there were any abuses in the FISA warrants, rather than allow Trump, Nunes, Hannity, etc. use the issue to claim that the FBI, Mueller and the Democrats, through the Russian investigation, are carrying out a 'witch hunt' against him.

It was a major embarrassment to the GOP.  Lies by omission notwithstanding, virtually everbody in the country other than Trumptards are now wondering just what is it that Trump is trying to hide by all these shenaigans?  The GOP leadershipe is taking yet another step backwards from the Turd in Chief.

The funniest part? Rosenstein, Comey, Wray -  all Republicans.

on State of the Nation with Jake Tapper! ;)

So, I wouldn't call it a dud, but it's truly smelly and repulsive! ;)

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We're not using "Nothing to see here". We used that last time. The narrative for this one is that it is full of inaccuracies and omitted facts. I know you are trying to help our comrades in dear Obama's deep state but you are not helping when you get the narrative wrong.

Now everyone! Stop being distracted by conspiracy theories and get back to focusing on Trump colluding with Russia to steal the presidential election!

McCabe testified under oath to congress that the FISA warrant would not have been obtained had it not been for the dossier. The FBI failed to verify anything within the probable cause of the warrant....well accept for the info from the Steele interview with Yahoo news.

So the FBI verified the Steele dossier with an interview of Steels by Yahoo news.

Incredible........where did all these top notch FBI investigators get their formal training? Where did Jew boy Rosenstein get his?

Can't wait to see Adam Shitt's rebuttal.........mine is better than yours is all I can see this turning into.

Posted By: hpygolky

This memo didn't expose anything other then some knucklehead (page) was being surveilled. And for good cause. There wasn't anything earth shattering that came from it. And the FBI investigation started when Papadopolos opened his big mouth, not that Steele Dossier.  
 To get a FISA court order once is hard, to get it renewed a second and third is tough and it shows that there's something there.  
 Now republicans are crying that poor Page is a victim of an over zealous FBI to have him surveilled. How republicans are quick to go after the FBI and who's next, the FISA Courts..  
 I wonder if Page was a Muslim, and he was surveilled the way page was, would republicans give a shit??  
 It was a great day for Russia....when are we going to stop being the laughing stock of the Kremlin?  
 Going to Vegas for the super bowl...fuck this shit

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HappyChanges35 reads

any steam left in the Mueller investigation. It shows that democratic research like climate change was used to fuel a national-security investigation. It cast seriously doubt on the merit of the Mueller investigation. I suspect the investigation will end soon in favor of Trump.

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