Thats what the link below seems to be saying :

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Seems to contradict what you're saying.

...at least from the corporate media. Of course, that's no surprise.

Yet, when you actually go down to one of these occupations you don't find trust fund babies, so much as you find people who have given up much of everything they own to dedicate themselves to the movement.

By the way, the consensus seems to be to wait out the winter, and get back to occupying come spring.

unless you consider making extra work for the people charged with keeping these areas clean, safe, and disease free a "good" thing.

I too have been by a few of these "movements" Atlanta, Houston, San Jose, and all I saw were some regular "full time" bums and some kids pretending to be protestors. Rebels without a clue. lol

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It's suggesting the OWS people are entitled brats, probably using their parents' money to buy all kinds of high tech toys while dressing like street people.  The term "trustafarian" is an old one, referring to kids who take on the Rasta look but are trust-fund kids.

Chicago and DC and on college campuses in Kansas, Illinois, Iowa and Indiana.

Saw a crowd that was at least 75 percent that were far from people who were there "to dedicate themselves to the movement." Most of them were there for the access to drugs and booze.

Of the other 25 percent, many were paid to be there and some others were playing music and panhandling.

A worthless movement.  Very little good, if any, came out of any of the gatherings.

The story is completely separate from the cartoon, and the point of the cartoon is clearly what I said in my first post.  Even the article, while it mentions the theft of a laptop, isn't all about theivery by the OWS crowd.  I couldn't even find out when the linked article ran.  Is there a date on it anywhere?

During the warmest winter in years, they melt away.  And what's the excuse of the OWSers in California? Not enough granola?  Reminds me of what Thomas Paine wrote about "the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot."  

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I would say at least 95% of them are woefully misinformed, 90%+ of them are philosophically bankrupt and a very large proportion are louse-infested, dope-using good-for-nothing bums.

You know what I did last time I was laid off from a job?

Did I go protest? No. Fuck it -- I started my OWN damned business.

Look, due to gains in efficiency, off shoring and stuff like that, secure employment is a damned rare thing. Companies are doing the same things with far fewer people and making more money. The employeeism model is not the way of the future.

By all means, some people will do fine as employees. But the wave of the future is starting your own business. Replace employeeism and consumerism with PRODUCERISM and turn your own home into your own MEANS OF PRODUCTION and own the means of production yourself.

Look, I agree to some extent that there is a helluva lot of corruption going on. People on wall street who never had an original idea in their lives except how to make money by fucking people up the ass without lube get rich within a rubric of law they bought from owned representatives.

HOWEVER -- as a member of the 1%, I say to them that *I* don't owe them SHIT and their redistributionist bullshit needs to go. Their alleged needs do not trump my rights to the product of my own time and mind.

If the OWS crowd had put half as much effort into developing product and service ideas as they did into whining like a bunch of lazy selfish schoolkids, they'd all be well on their way to redefining the 1%.

The OWS crowd needs to grasp that the only reason they can even LIVE is because of the productivity and innovation of guys like me in the 1%. Instead of stealing laptops, they should be erecting statues in our honor and then emulating our example.

part of it was just going home for the holidays. the other part is rethinking strategies after evictions. Some are very much in favor of doing "mic checks" to disrupt political candidates, others are opposed to it. There isn't a consensus yet on where to focus future efforts. Spring time is being talked about because it makes the logistics of long time protests a little easier to manage.

John, I know quite a few people in the Occupy movement, and NONE of them are woefully uninformed. You may disagree with their conclusions, but uninformed? How many of them do you even know? Dope-using good-for-nothing bums? Most of those that I know don't use drugs, legal or illegal.  

The OWS movement isn't just about economic injustice. It's about political corruption. It's about the foreclosure crisis. It's about bank bailouts. It's about environmental self-destruction. A friend of mine is looking into taking some college courses to pad out her resume, and she's looking at $800 per credit. That's bullshit. Information is NOT that expensive. It's cheaper to get than ever before.

There has been a class war going on for the last 30 years, followed by the worse white collar crime wave in world history for the last 10. Has anything been done to address this?

Almost all of human history has been one small group amassing great power or wealth, exerting that power over others, until people say "enough already". From the Magna Carta to the Declaration of Independence. Today corporations have amassed more power and in some cases more wealth than nations. There is not a problem in this world that they didn't create or make substantially worse. OWS is simply saying, "enough already".

recognition that envy is counterproductive...you bet.

My gf is an anarchist who attended some OWS events, so I have a better view than most members of the 1% would have.

Here is the problem. They ARE misinformed if they think the solution to economic injustice is to fuck ME up the ass. If they were informed, they'd know better. The fact that they recognize economic injustice exists is a start.

Let me tell you how your friend can complete a four-year college degree in two years for less than $5000. Interested?
http://www.amazon.com/Earn-College-Degree-Without-Going/dp/0471307882/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326482912&sr=1-1

You can go to Excelsior College, Charter Oak State College, World College, Thomas Edison State College and a half-dozen others for *pennies on the dollar* compared to traditional schools, and the credits are fully accredited and completely transferable.

This is what I mean!  Instead of whining about how their own stupid decision to pay $800/credit for worthless classes should entail ME as a taxpayer bailing them out -- they have refused to realize they hold the solution in their hands!

See? RIGHT THERE -- what would happen if all those thousands of students boycotted the $800/credit colleges and followed the method I just recommended? I'll tell you what -- the boycotted colleges would ultimately lower their prices to be competitive.

It is *not my fault* that some long haired dude with a nose ring and a joint decided to rack up $100k in student loans for his degree in Art History and Beer Bongs. HE should pay the price of his folly -- not ME.

And I can give you similarly practical solutions for every problem you are describing. I'm not disputing that the problems exist -- I am saying their knee-jerk advocacy of solutions with a strong socialist bias is indicative not only of ignorance and fundamental misunderstandings, but ultimately WILL NOT WORK because it depends upon their appealing to the good will of their oppressors!