I thought I'd answer Jasmine's comment on that subject up here.

1st, I have no interest or agenda specific to that and it would be impossible for any single individual to accomplish. However "control" of the boards (or more accurately the mainstream 411) is a goal (not really acheiveable IMO) of some.

"Chrashing the Boards" was a core tactic of the boardroom way back when and had a measurable effect on the groups success. If we look at recent events the "drama" around Danielle Hill probably stands as a good choice for a case study.

More than a few of the local "insiders" had seen her and I was aware of her. I actually was supposed to have lunch with a local agency owner and had lunched previously with a couple of guys active here on the BBS the previous day. One of whom happened to have just finished a session with her (which he raved about). When my "lunch date" was cancelled I called Danielle and saw her instead. My experience wasnt as steller as others but certainly reasonable so I suggested she consider moving away from CL and on to 411 (she had multiple good reviews).

Wow....within 48 hours she's pulled from 411 gets a horrible review and this board buzz's with attacks from "la squadren feminina" {know I didnt get the spelling right}. Later at my little previously mentioned "luncheon" its very clear that the "alliance" in question is doing exactly that. Literally coordinating actitivy to both "cycle" those posts off the front page of the BBS and refocus attention elsewhere.

All I'm doing is providing some historical context and observations along with a bit of understanding about how the "inner circle" works here in Phoenix for those on the outside.

I get so tired of reading about your moaning and groaning.Grow up and let the market be.If you dont want to see a higher end lady then there are other great ladies in Phoenix that you can see.One that fits every budget.

Hacker, dearest:

Haven’t you heard? It not the war, it's the economy, sweetheart...

And, anyway, everyone knows you are loaded; so what's the difference? What's the big deal?

Let's level the playing field a bit, shall we? Let's spread it around, O.K? You are not going to starve, or be thrown out on the street. Though you are immature for your age, you still have it made, right? No "real" worries at all. You are a very fortunate fellow; so why the complaint? Please, please, explain.

If you can't afford a pro, go pick up some floozy in a bar. It' should be easy enough for a fellow of your charm, sophistication, great physical beauty...

The ladies work hard for the money, and most of them have paid some incredible dues (something you can't understand). They deserve every cent they can get and more-much, much, more.

This is the great American South West, and this is an open and competitive market, full of enterprising merchants.

You are a buyer. If you find the merchandise or service unsatisfactory, you are free to take your business elsewhere. That is the AMERICAN way...  

Working girls of the world unite

LOVE, PEACE, and PROSPERITY,

Sheika Fatima

Hmmmmm, are you sure?  Do you know his background?  Do you know everything that has happened to him?

I don't.

Ahhh, who cares.  I "can't afford a pro" either.  Guess I'll have to stick to those floozies in bars.

Controlling the board - fixing prices - directing business - propping certain people up or shouting others down is not new to this or any other board. Whether it's done by the Boardroom (which I was told doesn't exist anymore), O.P.E.C., Muff PEC or the Coalition of the Greedy what's the big deal? Most of the meaningful communication about things is conducted backchannel anyway so why beat the drum?

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keeps the board interesting.

Kay, no one forces you to read.

nimble mind, I just want to see you sheik yo' booty!!! Damn. I feel better now.

pooh ville or the Valley of the Sun! Backchannel-the Kiss ass channel or the not so in croud Channel...

Let everyone do as they may and go where you wanna play!!

What ever  floats your f---ing Boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm really tired of BS on this board, you try and be part of a group you try and contribute, you care, you share, you love, you laugh and yet if you really not part of that Poon stuff or kiss the right ass ( hell you're not even given a chance to do that) Just would be nice to see some see the light!

Noone is forcing me to read but just like you post your opinions and feelings I have ever right also to express mine.At least I can do it under my real handle and not hide behind an alias.
 Never have used and alias and never will.

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Foxy Kay is an alias, isn't it?

Foxy Kay = Jordan Kay and she is very much entitled to her opinion on any topic.

Yes, I know that.  300+ reviews under just one profile.  A very busy bee indeed. But she is implying that her conscience is somehow more clear than mine because she is not using an alias (as I am). Yet I doubt her "stage" name (Jordan Kay) is her real name, so indeed she is probably using an alias.

Her opinion is no more important than AzHacker's, so she should not be directing him to stop his rant...

Just to share my own personal thoughts, the whole discussion is moot, as such a market can never be "fixed".  People are being myopic, because even though this local TER community is tight-knit, it is by no means representative of the whole of the PHX market by any means.

Because it is SO uncontrollable, I'm surprised when certain girls step-up and assume some kind of "defensive position" as if they actually have any ability to influence that market (no matter how reputable they are).  I think that shows a huge lack of humility and speaks to a dellusional perception of one's personal power.

"Bossism" won't have any effect on the market prices, but perhaps it has impact on message board cliques.

No Einstein  it is my Ter handle.I have had the same screen name since 2001 so please dont call it an alias.It is also my website domain name.

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I really dont bitch about the market but I was stating there is a girl for ever budget.I happen to do a low rate for my early bird so I am not trying to influence any market just stating my opinion and observations.I may have a few reviews but If you also look they date back to 2001 when I started.This is the last post on this issue you are getting annoying!

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OK, so you old-time TER pros like to split hairs on terminology.  I can dig it.  But screen names, handles and aliases are all the same thing.  None of these people "know" you.  They may have seen the physical manifestation of your alias (you), but I'm willing to bet that back home, you aint "Jordan Kay".  What exactly is your expectation from this:  That the men post with real names?  As far as you are concerned, I've been "Glengarryleads" for a long time too.  We just haven't had the pleasure of meeting (or perhaps we have) {wink}.  

Five years of being the character that you play in the bedroom carries no more weight than a guy who starts a basic account with no VIP privs.  2 reviews or $20 per month does not buy more argument priviledge.

Look, it took me a bit of time to solve the puzzle myself, but if you give them enough time, the light bulb will eventually come on over their head, much in the same way the halo shines above yours'.

Like everyone else, the Sheika knows many things; and, I have my ways of finding things out…

Hey, did I ever tell you about the time Cleo and I found a genie. It was in a clear bottle that seemed to contain this murky fluid.

We found the thing recently; underneath these date palms in the middle of Jabria-which is a district in Kuwait city…

Anyway, Cleo is poking around these dead palm fawns with her nose, and presto she turns the thing over and starts rolling it around. It looks ancient and it smells bad. But, then, all of a sudden this smoky cloud starts to billow forth and coalesce into a genie-a big genie.

It was an ugly sexless thing, and in spite of its size, it had a tiny child like voice. It offered us these wishes, but I said no, and told it to get back in the bottle and save them for a later date…

Cleo and I still have the thing—right here in Arizona; and, we haven‘t used the wishes yet—and, with any luck, we won’t have to...

En’sha’allha

Sheika Fatima and Cleo


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I actually knew that guy; and, I can assure you he was not much of a Sheik…

None of the Ladies like him because he wasn’t much interested.

His full name was actually Sheik Mohamed al Sari Booty. He was old and fat and hairy. He lived in a hot, dank Bedouin tent. His citizen ship was in doubt-even for the Middle East.

Supposedly, he was the hereditary leader of a delapidate dwindling tribe of a hundred or so wandering Bedouins who spent most of their time straddling the unmarked border between Ahu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia.

Sheik al Sari Booty owned an old 4x4 Mercedes that he parked just out side the front entrance of his dusty tent, and a couple of scrawny camels that hung around the back.

This Sheik smelled bad. He was a sweat hog and a chain smokers, who ruled his diverse harem with an iron hand. His favorite sodomites-which comprised most of his harem-found this not that unappealing, because out in the waste lands there is not a lot for a sodomite to do accept envy and hate the USA, smoke hash until you brain goes numb and fantasy about all those perpetual virgins in heaven while you do your buddy's back side. The old Sheik and most of his dominions were so ripped most of the time that they couldn’t tell a royal princes from a gay camel, etc.,etc.,etc….  

Thanks for the inspiration. The Sheika loves to write.

LOVE AND PEACE,

Shieka Fatima



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