Okay, so I realize every once in awhile a lady finds that someone else is using her name, but usually it's in a different city and has a catch phrase behind it, so there is no confusion. For instance, there is Ciara of Buffalo. And there is another lady who spells her name Sierra.

Well, I wouldn't have known that "A NEW PROVIDER WHO WORKS FOR A LOCAL & WELL-KNOWN AGENCY" is using my name and spelling it the same way. It's an unusual spelling -- Italian, and it's very unique. I have always been the only Ciara here (for a long time) until some sleazy lady stole my name and used it on Craig's List, and TER has her down as a bad website and will not take her review down. Hence, two profiles of Ciaras and one is not even legit. Now, I have to deal with another lady in town with my name. What's even more disturbing to me is that I know this agency owner knows who I am and how long I've been here. So why allow the girl that name?

I've been getting emails and PMs asking if I've changed my hair, gained weight, etc. One client  said he almost didn't call me. Another guy who actually wanted to book with this other lady called me and I had no clue as to what he was talking about when he mentioned my age and stats. Of course they were wrong.

Well, after receiving many PMs and emails from concerned clients and other providers who were in disbelief of what the agency did to me, I found the Ciara in question on the new board, "Escort Review Site"/"Provider Report". I have called the agency in question and no one has returend my phone call. I have also emailed the website through its Contact page (twice) and have had no response yet.

Ladies and gentlemen: Do you think that was inconsiderate for the agency to either give the girl my name or allow her to pick my name? Couldn't they have come up with a better name for the girl? I feel like it was a "knife in my back."  Not very polite on their part. Not cool -- not cool at all! We have a name and it is important to us and our business. They should have created another name for her -- one that is all her own and not ride the good reviews of another lady.

Hugs,
Ciara











-- Modified on 10/20/2008 8:44:31 PM

Well, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, or so they say. Guys, just double check if you are looking for a "Ciara", because the original is something special and anyone else is just a cheap imitation! I'll stick with the original! Sedatem

with your reputation and years of great reviews, I bet this will be nothing more than a speed bump in a few weeks.

BTW is it a new agency or an established one. If the agency is new they might be given a bit of leeway on this, if they have been around for a while well then......

Hell, maybe they didnt know there was another Ciara around anymore ?

These days  - new girls - new agencies- they dont think twice about names-

They slap sally sue on a free site and say

" give me money "

I'm sorry that happened Ciara-
Same thing happened to me in Buffalo last year-
Some little blonde 19 r old CL Bimbo

I've been Ciara since 96 - I SHOULD be ashamed to admit that LOL -

there's a rip off CL girl who uses Holly in my area.  Argh!  I know what it is like to work hard to build your reputation and then poof! someone else uses your rep to build their business!

Not nice!

-- Modified on 10/20/2008 8:59:02 PM

if this girl was an agency girl, yeah, it was pretty cheeky of them to bill her as simply "Ciara", given how established you are in the area.  I would think they would at least call her "Ciara Jane" or something, to avoid any confusion, but who knows what the intent was.

All I can say is that this is yet another advertisement for how valuable TER is, because anyone who makes the effort to see if the girl has any reviews would easily see that you are the only genuine article.  I know not all of your business comes that way, but it just goes to show how much BS there is out there.

I also kind of wish that TER wouldn't allow profiles to be active without working site/ad links, but that is my personal preference.

Speaking of personal preference...I was sorry to see that you had to cancel your trip out here, and I am looking forward to the next time you can come around.

Peace out, and good luck, sweetie.  

M'dear, a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet, and likewise, a duplicate can only ever be but a pale imitation of the orginal. You dear lady are a masterpiece, and it is not your name that makes it so, but your class, grace, intelligence, and dare I say, scrumptiously delicious self. No lady can aspire to all that by the mere assumption of a name.

In my neck of the woods, there have been two other Stacy's that have come and gone, both leaving a short list of bad reviews in their wake, and there are currently two other Stacy's who are active and legitimately reviewed. Alas, it does cause confusion at times but our doting gentlemen cope with the abundance of Stacy's quite well. Fortunately, we all three spell our names slightly different.

I wouldn't let this worry you too much. Be flattered that this agency admires you and your reputation enough to hope to siphon off a bit of your well earned reputation. If the lady is even half the lady that you are, she will do very well in her own right, and will have no need to ride anyone's coat tails. Then again, few ladies could quite compare to you, so it is more likely this will be simply a short chapter of confusion followed by the continuation of your reputation that puts you among the best.

hugs,
Stacy

but accept no substitute... there is one - and only one Ciara in phoenix worth flying 2000 miles to see!  She is blond... with a great figure... (oh - and she is one of the few who know why the bizzare one is GREEN! so ask her if you see her why I am GREEN!)  then e-mail me- to see if the person you asked is her!  The original Ciara!!!  

Just remember - if you want the experience in the great reviews.... see the original...

I wouldn't be bashful in naming the offending agency. Seems like a no class move to me. Any agency that would try to trade off of your reputation and name is likely to treat their clients badly as well.

If anyone should change her name it's her. Also, some people know me as Ciara of Phoenix or my TER handle of CiaraPhx. I don't care to type that many names in every time. I just prefer Ciara. One name is usally easier to remember and sounds better, like Cher or Madonna.

Hugs,
ciara

GRRRRRRR is right. That is very rude and unethical.
An agency that has existed in your area for years most certainly knows of you, your beauty and your stellar, honest reputation, for them to give a gal your name and try to feed off of the good name you have established is despicable.
Well sweet lil Ciara you are the real and the only Ciara in Phoenix no matter how what.

Thank You
XLIII = 4

I have not met Ciara phx as of yet but have enjoyed chatting with her over the past few weeks. From everything I can discern Ciara of PHX is an extrodinary woman..very intelligent, astute, & smart. I look forward to meeting her one day either here or in the Phoenix area.

Sorry to see this happen to you Ciara.

-- Modified on 10/20/2008 9:49:31 PM

I would be a little upset since it takes a long time to build a good reputation such as yours. Have you asked the agency to reconsider the name? Diana

Ciara,
   I just love you to pieces and hope they finally do respond to you.I know you dropped them an email but maybe a phone call is next to the number on the ad

for the same reasons as here....oink oink

-- Modified on 10/21/2008 4:18:49 AM

...similarly, you chose to advertise on a site that also hijacked an existing domain name.  Yes, I know, that site has recently changed it's domain name, but it doesn't change the fact the site owner was unscrupulous and the new domain name is an oxymoron as she definitely has no class!!  

Did you pick up the phone and discuss the name issue with the owner of the agency?  

Ciara, I consider you a top shelf provider in the Valley, so don't take this as a slam.  I'm just raising a different perspective.

I feel the same way. I have a pretty unique name, Rae Monroe...but it feels like the day I picked my name a week later there were 5 girls in Atlanta with the last name of Monroe. Not much I can do about it. As long as there is no other "Rae" running around out there I'm fine with that. Have you thought about adding a "last" name to your current title?

I don't think it's right but it is part of doing business. I don't think she was doing anything really "wrong" but I do believe that it is shabby business practices.

and from my own personal experience I know why.

I hope that the ersatz Ciara changes her name to something else, but I also feel like you will not suffer as those who care, know;, and those who know, care.

Sorry you're going thru this. It's a pain in the ass I know. Most of us that have been around awhile have had this happen at one time or another.  It's annoying, frustrating and just plain ol' tacky. There really isn't much you can do though. Best thing you can do, as you've already started to do, is make a post about it on your local boards as well as your own website.

Those that know you will know better. Those that retain the services of the 'imposter' will immedietly realize they've been the victim of a bait and switch.

Advice from an old pro that hasn't just been around the block but was around before there was a block??? ...........Let it go. I promise you it will blow over. I promise you it won't affect your biz. Trust me darlin.

MEOW!!!!

appropriate your name for one of their here-today-gone-tomorrow girls.  And to not respond to your inquiries really shows their lack of class.

So sorry you had to go thru this Ciara.  My friend, Holly's Hobby, who posted above, went thru a similar ordeal down here in Florida.  It sucks, but unfortunately, doo doo occurs, and sometimes happens to nice people.

Swim

as frustrating as this can be, it does happen. Your name is a bit unusual and I am sure you thought it wouldn't be an issue, unlike mine which is a common name. You though have a great rep and fab reviews which are yours, no doubt.
I was in this biz for 3yrs as Nicole Kelly before discovering another Nicole Kelly on the west coast who also has a great rep, we are both very different though, as well as a famous photographer with the name also.( imagine how she feels)LOL.  It does happen and I am sorry to hear you are having to deal with this, but anyone who does their research, and looks into you, will know who you are and who you are Not! Ride it out baby, you will be ok. She may have the same name as you...But girl, she is still not you.

xox
Nicole


-- Modified on 10/21/2008 5:53:32 AM

..at least two "Leigh"'s in Phoenix (3 if you count Leigh Lennox) and two "Sophia"'s (ironically I beleive the first Sophia is with Mystique}.  

Again, I emphasize that the original Ciara is a reputible lady.  I would also point out that the agency in question has also always been considered highly reputible.  Just because they've chosen to terminate their affiliation with TER is not reason to slam them here.  JMO!!

I've seen this sort of thing before and it's BS. To be honest It's probably an attempt by the agency to capitalize on your good name and hard work in building a great reputation.  Ultimately it probably won't hurt you but it causes confusion that there is clearly no need for. It's a shame that an agency would resort to this sort of game. If I were booking with them I would have second thoughts before trusting them.

Yes, I do take it as a slam!  How could I not? First, I don't interfere with who or who isn't running a site, nor did I know anything about a name copy until recently. Second, the ladies who started the site seem very nice and I'm sure whatever happened was an oversight (whether it was one person or the other), nor do I care to get involved with the legalities. So, to me this sounds like you are "starting trouble for trouble's sake" WITH ME and has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

Ciara

And, if they were so reputable, they would not have given a new provider at the agency my name. They know who I am. Someone asked who the agency is here and I told the truth. It's no secret that this agency used my name and it's up on a site now. In fact, others had alerted me to it, hon. If they would have returned my emails and phone messages and talked to me about this, then I wouldn't have posted, so don't go defending someone who is guilty. That makes you look very bad. You are the only one who has defended them.

And, out of curiosity, why are you defending an agency that clearly has no scruples? Just because you got some nice booty at their agency doesn't mean their business practices lately are good. I don't think Jack would have let this happen, but I could be wrong. Makes me wonder about you and a certain crowd here that have hopefully fizzled out.

Ciara










-- Modified on 10/21/2008 6:41:33 AM

She chose the name and knew of me. I believe the agency is at fault here.

Hugs,
Ciara

Stuff like that happens occasionally. That is why I mentioned Ciara of Buffalo and Sierra in my original post. They are clearly different from me and that's okay. But, for an agency to intentionally use my name when they know who I am and in the same city is shitty -- pure and simple.

Hugs,
Ciara

There is a girl here in Atlanta that uses the name of Amanda Prescott, which was the name of a popular provider here in Augusta/Carolina's for 5 years before this girl even came aboard. Now THAT was audacious.

I hope you get everything straightened out honey!!

~Rae

I can think of only two ladies, one I have met, the other, I have not. (YET) Any others, at this point, would be cheap imitations.

Ciara in Phoenix, and Ciara in Buffalo have both been around long enough, and both shown us all enough class to know that a third simply will not be around long enough to be more than a temporary nuisance.

Lastly, with Mystique's reputation, I would expect them to acknowledge that this is a problem, and fix it. Personally, I think they should do it right here on the local board.

Yes, intentional or not, it is tacky in the extreme. I thought about my name for a long while because I didn't want to get lumped in with all the common names. I am unique and so is my name.

agree it is an issue, so sorry this happened to you.  your reputation will pervail and it will all blow over, its a shame the felt they needed  to do this.

..my reference was to several other respondents on this thread that were doing so.  I totally agree you should have received a reply from the agency.  As I stated unequivocably, I've always considered you a top shelf provider of the Valley.  So it seems just because we've not met and I've taken a somewhat "contrarian" position with regard to this name issue, I'm immediately labeled by you as someone with an agenda!  WTF?  

Have a wonderful day!

I agree, this situation sucks! A lot of our business depends on word of mouth as well as reviews and advertisements so when a lady has the same name and spelling in the same area there is a higher chance of mistaking the two people. The agency owner should have at the very least spelled it differently.  
You have a great reputation so you will always be the original Ciara : )  



-- Modified on 10/21/2008 7:47:41 AM

..but it appears I'm not going to alter your opinion.  Why is it that when someone tries to present additional information, they are immediately catagorized as "trouble makers"??  With the recent turmoil in the Valley, it's sad to see such a fractionalized hobby community.  

But I gotta give ya kudos for stirring up what has been a very boring board of late.  

Have a wonderful day!

I can think of dozens of times that more then one gal in a single market has the same name. We have how many "Brooke"'s at this moment ? 3? 4?

Is it annoying, sure it is. But the reality is that this scenario cuts both ways. Someone could search a place like TER looking for one "Brook" and then see an other based on the actual reviews.

The only way that someone would specifically pick an agency gal is if they are viewing the agency site or ad. If someone see's your ad then they'll call you. The only time you'll have cross over is if a name search is run...which as I said will tend to favor the gal with the best/most reviews.

Way to much drama over a trivial issue...

BTW Ciara is not all that uncommon, just running a TER search shows what appears to be 2 dozen or so gals with that name.

-- Modified on 10/21/2008 7:57:02 AM

Can't you be objective and reread what you've written? It was blatantly rude. Sorry, but it's the truth, or can't I express my opinion?

And most people on here can clearly see that you were responding to me, not everyone. It certainly is "an agenda."  :0

-- Modified on 10/21/2008 8:22:53 AM

How many times do I have to say this: It's not the name in general that disturbs me. It's the fact that a well-known agency used my name to give to a new girl. Why couldn't they choose another name? Please don't defend someone who is shady. We're not talking about several providers who innocently choose a name without thinking about the repercussions of it. We're talking about an agency that knew there was another reputable provider by the name of Ciara in this town. Be objective, not foolish!

There are many ways to pick agency ladies, not just from agency sites. Where do you think the mixup came from? It doesn't matter. The fact is that it happened and I was alerted to it. I hardly think I'm full of myself. Several people have mentioned on this site when a girl from CL posts with their name. Oh, but that's okay because it's CL? Why attack me, TxToast? I haven't said anything derogatory toward you? In fact, I don't always agree with you but I don't intentionally blast you and say "you're full of yourself" just because I disagree with you. It sounds like you are protecting someone who doesn't need protecting. You need to learn some manners, TxToast. Then -- and only then -- will I take you seriously and as an intelligent person. We all have a right to post something important to us on this board. If you don't like it, then move on.

Hugs,
ciara







-- Modified on 10/21/2008 8:49:54 AM

Ciara has been using this moniker for a long time and it is my belief that with respect to one of our agencies they should avoid using well known local providers names. With respect to Craigs list personnel, well what more need be said? Ciara is one of our shining stars and it is my belief that her name and the names of so many others that we have come to know should be avoided by other new providers. They have available so many name possibilities that they can utilize and in time maybe they can come to enjoy the same status that Ciara now enjoys within our community. All the best Ciara. xbanker

I am writing this because I got a message from Jack from his current email site, and he said he was unable to respond to me because I'm not a member of his site. That was nice, and of course I am not a member, but I did include my email address in both emails to the site, and anyone can click on properties to get someone's email address. With that said, Jack is unable to respond to me on TER, so I thought it was only fair to tell everyone that he recently sent me an email.

However, my post has to do with the new owner of Mystique and not Jack's website. I have left messages for him at Mystique with no responses. I also emailed the website in question so I could try to get a response there. I have also called Mystique and left messages. So, believe me, I took the proper actions before I posted on TER. Jack's site is merely a fossil that incorporates the lady's picture with her name. I have not run into a problem with Jack or his past company before, and I understand that he is not running the business anymore. He said another gentleman is running the business. This post is not to bash anyone in particular. This was posted because the current owner of the agency has not responded to my emails and phone messages, hence the post on TER.

This is a legitimate post with legitimate concerns and questions. I specifically said that I didn't think Jack would allow this to happen. So, you can relax Jack. I don't think anyone interpreted (or I didn't word it in such a manner) that you were involved. If so, then I apologize. I wouldn't say anything with anyone's name that was incorrect. Please reread what I said on here. I don't expect someone to look at every picture on his site, but I do find it odd that no one caught it before now. However, a message is supposedly being sent to the owner of Mystique regarding this situation. Maybe he will listen to Jack, since he hasn't responded to me. From what I've been told, her name and picture have been up for awhile now, but he didn't see a problem with allowing her to use my name.

Hugs,
Ciara







-- Modified on 10/21/2008 2:02:19 PM

I am commenting on your post and attacking the concept that your somehow entitled to exclusive use of a name. Personally I know that I always search a name before I actually book an appointment so my thought is that it will bring you more potential traffic not less...

I ran a TER search for Brooke in PHX and got 5 different Gals 4 of whom appear to be local. I recall seeing the same "name" on multiple gals at the same agency as well as different agencies at the same time as well as indies.

The realities are simple, business can only come to you in 3 ways, referral, advertisement or via a search function of some kind. So a referral obviously comes with both a recommendation and a contact method. An ad generates traffic and the caller acts based on the ad. It doesnt matter what "name" the gal is using the ad drives the traffic. A search specific to a name offers an opportunity for multiple gals (potentially) to compete in a limited marketplace. So instead of competing vs a broader subset of the population you'd only be competing against an unknown (for now at least). I can't see any way that hurts you, in fact I'd assume it will drive additional traffic your way. After all any advertising is good advertising...

-- Modified on 10/21/2008 10:01:11 AM

Ladies who build their business on a single name no matter how distinctive are simply volunteers for this this kind of name misappropriation. That works for Cher, but for eveyone else you need to have a first and last name, or at least some other descriptive term to set you apart

           Unless and until you either do this or trademark your name (which the law would not allow anyway unless it is accompanied by some unique mark) you really are at the mercy of anyone who wantys a free ride on your reputation, or anyone else who simply likes the name.

           Nothing wrong with being outraged and venting but this will not solve the problem. Politeness and consideration are not terms we use in business.

Become "Ciara of Phoenix" and the problem will go away.

Ciarra, you know i have an agency and sooo hate the agencies that try every underhanded trick in the book to gain a client when in reality it does not gain you a client it actually turns off potential clients from calling your service!
Come on? an innocent mistake with your name and you said you knew this place?
In my opinion, of course they did use your name in the hopes of confusing the public, its an old trick and it does work, for a while!
They are hoping the girl will be good enough to interest the clients and if not Oh Well! that is the crappy attitude that many agencies have, they go for the immediate satisfaction of greed and forget the future, which will be meager if they keep this up.
C, all you can do is hold on you've done what you can to expose this underhanded act and remember what goes around comes around and it will, maybe not as quick as we would like it to but it will!

-- Modified on 10/21/2008 10:45:36 AM

First, I want to apologize for using the owner of Mystique's name, which has now been modified. Most everyone knows who it is, so I really didn't think about it when I posted his name. I didn't think it was such a mystery, and I didn't use his last name. Sorry about that. Many, many, many people know who it is already, but I wouldn't want to name names, so for this I am sorry.

Second, I did speak to him briefly on the phone, but he couldn't speak to me calmly and without raising his voice and arguing with me. He basically thinks I'm lying about trying to get ahold of him. Sorry, but I did (like five times), I didn't want to argue with him because obviously he wouldn't listen to me anyway, so I politely said to him that I was sorry he didn't get my messages. I won't go any further than that because there is not much to discuss. He said he would change the lady's name, among other things.  I heard rumors about the company being banned from two providers (I don't speak to a lot of people), but I really don't take to rumors very often. I just figured it must be smart on their part not to post as much because of everything that is going on in the community. So, Jack told me in an email that he couldn't post, but it was his decision not TER's. Honestly, I did not think much of it when I posted because it was not directed at Jack, and how did I know that the new owner couldn't or doesn't want to post on TER? I didn't. Shoot! Sometimes I cannot remember my own name (no pun intended). So why should I know -- or care -- that Mystique can or cannot post? I really don't concern myself with those types of things. That is why I felt it was fair to tell everyone that I haven't had problems with Jack in the past, nor did I think it was his fault.  Again, I will always tell the truth and will rectify a situation immediately if I feel that someone does not have a voice to do so on this board.

So, owner of Mystique, I am sorry that you didn't get my messages but I did leave them and for more than a week. I was going to rectify this situation -- hopefully -- like two adults, but that is impossible now. I cannot carry on a conversation with someone screaming in my ear and insinuating that I am a liar. He could have said, "Well, I didn't get your messages," not "You didn't leave any messages," etc. I would have said I was still upset that he used my name but I am sorry that it had to come down to me getting a response by posting on the TER board, but I did not have the opportunity to say it because he was too upset.

I also said to him in an email prior to our telephone conversation that I would post that he fixed the problem and that all is clear after we can communicate the problem and hopefully fix it. After all, TER is a sounding board, and I doubt it will hurt his business. In fact, many have posted on the boards when they have had a problem with an agency. He said he's already had so many inquiries since this was posted, so it was just more advertising for him. I am sure that he is giving his side of the story (which should only be that I posted about the name thing) on his board, so believe what you want to believe people. I would have just posted that he solved the problem and not have gone into this story, except he said he was going to post something on his board, so I felt it was necessary for those who are interested to know the truth about our conversation. There's not much to tell other than he was mad and not listening to anything I tried to tell him.

I will not be dealing with him again, but I will always give a reference if he needs one, as I believe in keeping the community safe from predators.

Have a great day!

Hugs,
Ciara



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-- Modified on 10/21/2008 4:23:52 PM

This is why I choose the handle rather then a name at 1st and also why I will often use the phrase NE Pas’only Live wire. Now I am sue a lot of men and women look at this a laugh …. NE PA S’ only yeah right .But ya know what they remember the handle and associate it only with me. I have since added Livie because I got tired of guys calling asking Hi is this live wire? Lol your name is important very much so, so don’t let someone else have you thinking other wise. I would most defiantly keep contacting that agency I would personally send one on your behave as well. May be we collectively could pursued them to change hers or add some thing to it so that you two are not confused with one  and another. I would then buy your domain name if you haven’t already. I did with mine Then have it copy written. This way if in the future some one local uses it you have the right to demand they take it down or start paying you royalties or rental. I agree with you 100/00 your name is a big part of your money making marketing.

I traveled all the way from Florida several years ago to see CiaraPhx.  I totally enjoyed my time with her.  CiaraPhx is a true GFE who truly enjoys what she does.  CiaraPhx knows how to treat a gentleman like a true lover.

If I only lived closer I would see her as often as my wallet would allow.

If you read this, thank you CiaraPhx again for the great time we had!

just to get up in the world or for a quick laugh!

I've seen postings in several cities, including one recently in PHX, of a lady changing her name to avoid confusion with two or more ladies of the same name....

So I think it inconsiderate when a new lady starts using the name of a well respected, established lady such as Ciara....

Although PHX411 is no longer, Ciara had been on that website for as long as I can remember, and anyone paying attention would have noticed her....

There are ignorant people, but I cannot think that someone could claim ignorance about not knowing about Ciara....

I hope that this agency does the right thing and has this new lady use another name....

Keeping my fingers crossed on this for you Ciara!!!!

RocketMan36

No need to cause a ruckus amuck us.

You have made some pretty negative insinuations about this agency just because they forgot to consider you ?

If they were really trying to ride on 'the coattails of someone else's success, dont you think they wouldve picked a provider who actually had recent reviews ?

If they were trying to 'bait and switch', don't you think they would've picked an established provider who was closer to the girl's age.

You stated yourself that there is also a ripoff Ciara so wouldn't it make sense to pick a name that hadn't been labeled as a ripoff ?


Most agency girls pick their own names and neither the girl nor the agency owner considers the independent providers because quite frankly they could care less.

The people posting in this thread are not even from Phoenix so it's pretty obvious that you launched a huge smear campaign against this agency for an innocent oversight knowing they were no longer on TER and not able to come on here and defend themselves.

That's dirty.

If having a unique name is that important to your biz, get a last name and get it trademarked.  Someone having the same name is actually something very common but most providers handle it with a lot more grace and a lot less drama.


By the way, the name is irish, and there is no italian version of it.

-- Modified on 10/22/2008 3:01:20 AM

campaigning

I think we can safely say most of us would prefer to never fall the victim of an identity theft regardless of how that might occur or to what end it may affect us and our lives.

If someone knowingly took on a name that clearly is being used in the area I would say it is in fact a disrespectful thing to do.

Ciara has been providing an experience with her clientele for sometime and feels she owns her reputation which clearly shown in her reviews the gentlemen feel she deserves. She doesn't write her own reviews after all. The fact that some confusion among clients can occur is disturbing though wouldn't you agree? What happens if the Neo Ciara turns out to be less than desirable? What of that following Ciara ?

The fact that people both providers and hobbyists alike have come from other boards and states to defend her is really just a testament to her reputation and indicative of the support and friendships she has built.

Spear campaigning? Hard to spear someone who by their own passive admission is no one as they can't even differentiate themselves  .Riding someone else's reviews is a cheap way to get yourself business in a hurry. It is honestly unnecessary.

It may in fact be Neo Ciara didn't know better but after the attempted contact with the agent and bringing it to their attention it is difficult to defend their position or stand up for someone who does not even make an attempt to be cordial and instead ignores the calls .Even if the girl doesn't change her name a call back would have been nice. my .02
           
                                                                                                                                                                                            Kendall

When I first came to AZ, There was another lovely lady "Isabella", I wasn't trying to steal another's identity in any way, but I've had my name for sometime, and was also known/established over the years... so I just added "Amore", and "Isabella Amore" it is now!
Then their will be no mistaking you whatsoever lady!
Isa xoxo

Someone already suggested that, Sorry lady!

As with Ciara, there would no mistaking you Isabella!

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was not meant by making light of your problem

I guess I have a weird sense of humor

PS

I was never given the opportunity to select a name.....not knowing anything about TER and having no one for advise when I started the biz....my first client that reviewed me and did my profile used my email address as my name...he never even asked me and he knew the business well


Terri=my name and Kodie=my dogs name so when I changed it I wanted to keep the K for cares....which I do very much about all of us!!!!

take care
xoxoxo
Terri



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Ciara, I know it may not help you feel better, but you're not alone.  Right now there a girl advertising on Eros who is using my girlfriends first AND last name.  And, yep, she's advertising under the Las Vegas section.  I personally think these agencies, and other jealous providers, try to cash in on another ladies good reputation.  Unfortunately, there isn't anything you can really do about it except ride out the storm and wait for them to move on...which they will do eventually.

In a weird, sick, twisted kind of way, it's kind of a compliment that they chose to use your name.  It speaks to the strength of your reputation.  After all, would they steal the name of someone with a bad reputation???

Good luck to you sweetie, and hopefully this will pass soon!

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Dont let facts get into your way.

I wasnt trying to argue with you, i was just stating that according to the encyclopedia, there is not an italian version of the name ciara at all.

Maybe you need to send them a pm, not me.

Accusing an agency of riding upon your coattails is in fact a slam on the agency.

is rude. And, I did email the owner of Mystique twice and phone him twice (not to mention emailing Jack at the Provider Report). So don't assume they never got any messages. Plus, I have a saved tape in which the phone operator received my messages and said that they were sorry they didn't get back to me sooner. You are barking up the wrong tree, and if you pay attention, most people have agreed with me.

As far as the name "Ciara" goes. I've spent many years in Italy, and the name "Ciara" is very popular, but it is pronounced "K EYE R A."

I did not PM you, so I'm not sure what you meant by that, nor do I care. Now, please go crawl back under your rock.

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Because you posted here, where you knew they couldn't respond.

I never assumed they didn't get your messages. they are the only ones who know that.

You stated quite a few times that you were not slamming the agency but your original post accuses them of using your name deliberately to take advantage of your 'reputation'. So yes, I have been paying attention.

I'm not arguing with you Ciara about the origin of the name, I'm just pointing out what the encyclopedia says so direct your argument to them.

Had i been aware that disagreeing with you was a capitol offense, i wouldn't have mentioned facts listed in an encyclopedia.

Now that you've shown everyone how much publicity it will generate, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more Ciara's crop up.

And yes, you did state that Ciara was Irish. It is an international name, but I find it humorous that you are quoting from a book that does not always have the facts straight, albeit an encyclopedia. You are right about one thing: You do not know both sides, yet you are incorrect in stating that I knew Mystique could not post. I do not know about some of the agencies here in Phoenix, and I really do not talk to too many people about them. Anyway, they had a field day with me, too, on the Provider Report, so there is no need to be too concerned with them. Men can post on the board about having bad experiences with agencies (among other things), and you guys come to their aid and say, "Call so and so and they'll make it right and . . . blah, blah, blah."  Anyway, you get the drift. If you would have read the entire thread with the slightest comprehension, then you would already have your answers. You are just "causing trouble for trouble's sake."

I am not going to humor you any longer with these written conversations. It is pointless and it will not end in harmony. Allow yourself the last word in if you deem it necessary and worthy to your cause. I have decided to take the high road and have good thoughts from this point forward. Life is too short for such silly squabbles.

Hugs,
Ciara















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