I am wondering, is anyone concerned about the potential for disease transmission (either from giving or receiving)? same with DATY.  Am I being unnecessarily cautious by always requesting CBJ and no DATY (even when I'd love to)?  I'm especially interested in providers' opinions.

There is always risk involved with unprotected sexual contact.  Venturing into the unknown is scary territory. Follow your gut.

AbbyLee

..that you do a search on the "newbies" board for this topic.   Lots of discussion.  The choice, obviously, is always yours.

There's always a risk even WITH protected sex (oral or otherwise).

There is, as said here, always some degree of risk in everything we do in and out of the hobby.
but however as for BBBJ and DATY if you have/get TER  VIP and see the well reviewed well respected gals your chance of catching anything (other than a great time ) is IMO very very very low.


Thank You
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I agree with follow me on this one.  However, I would suggest that you talk to your Dr..  have an explicit conversation with them and get all of the information you need.  Hopefully, your Dr. is not of the "moral majority" set and will give you honest answers.

xoxo
Jazz

I am in the medical field. In fact i am a laboratory technician and the very person who actually performs a myriad of tests, among them every manner of std profiles. Everyone knows that there is obviously an inhererent risk in unprotected sex. What you have to take in consideration is the actual degree of risk involved in any particular activity. My advice is to stay with very reputable providers whose reputations precede them. They seem to have the ability to weed out the riff raff when it comes to clients. As far as unprotected oral, statistics and testing data indicate a very low risk for chl/gonorreah and virtually no risk of hiv transmission due to oral being a poor mechanism for transmission. Yeah, hiv information on the net and elsewhere tells us that even unprotected oral sex carries a risk. But there has not been a single case where the transmission of hiv could be attributed exclusively to oral contact. Having said that, let me give you a scenario where transmission could possiblly take place: A woman has a tendency to have bleeding gums after teeth brushing. She then performs unprotected sex on a guy WITH hiv. He then cums in her mouth. Obviously there's a definite risk here although still relatively low due to the oral route being a very poor method of transmission. Nevertheless the risk is still there. conversly: A woman performs unprotected oral on a guy whose hiv status is known to be negative or unknown, but she does not have the issue of bleeding gums. She has as much chance of contracting this disease as she has of being struck by lightning the next time she goes to walk to her car. Plain and simple. The same thing goes for male to female oral sex. Now, as far as other std's, the risks are higher in contracting gonorreah orally with fluid exchange between saliva and vaginal secretions, but still very low statisticly speaking. The bottom line is know who you're dealing with. As for the author of the original post, i do think you're being a wee bit paranoid in your insistence that all oral contact is covered. Of all the means of std transmission female to male carries a virtual non existent risk. How does THIS risk become existent? Easy. Say the guy has a lesion or sore on his penis and he allows a streetwalker to perform oral on him. Get the picture?

Thanks Simmon it’s good to hear from a laboratory technician that deals with this every day. We need more sound advice here and not scare the shit out of every body with theories on the transmissions of SD.

Everything we do in life is a risk. All we can do is live as safely as possible or go into a BUBBLE! lol

Simmonse -
very informational post... thanks for the info (yes - I know you could be anyone, but at face value, sounds reasonable based on my further exploration - the one that worries me more is herpse - any info on that?

There is actually a blood test for herpes simplex 1 and 2. Herpes simplex 1 is the type  associated with your everyday run of the mill cold sore that some people get. herpes simplex 1 is very prevalent in the general population and in fact most people who have it never have any cold sore breakouts, ever. Therefore if one is to test positive for it, it essentially means that at some point in the past they could have been exposed to it through something as simple as kissing. Like i said, a LOT of people test positive for this. Herpes simplex 2 on the other hand is what you don't want to test positive for, because it is the strain typically associated with genital herpes. And, most of the people that have been exposed to this strain ultimately will have a breakout on their genatalia, hence the need for a daily dose of valtrex or some other type of drug to prevent such breakouts. It is thought that it is still possible that type 2 could still be contracted from someone who does not have an active breakout on the genitals. There is some data to suggest that it is also possible there is some cross reactvity between the types. EX: a guy with cold sore goes down on a woman. it's possible, but highly unlikely he could pass simplex 1 to her. This does not mean she will breakout herself. It does mean that if she gets tested she may very well come back positive for simplex 1. Otherwise she would never know she contracted it. Now, if a guy with active herpes simplex 2 gets oral sex performed on him, then the performer DEFINITELY is at risk for contracting it. I worked in a clinic once where a young lady who was engaged came in and had herpes simplex 2 lesions at the back of her throat. You can pretty much guess how she got it. Either her significant other was in the midst of an active breakout and didn't warn her, or he was not taking his meds as prescribed, because they tend to work like a charm as long as you are responsible enough to take them daily. Sorry for the long post.

Can I go in the bubble with you, Cheyenna? Could be a lotta fun.