I couldnt help but be a bit amazed on this one.

After all you've got a gal who openly advertises...

"Humiliation, Ball and Nipple Torture, Financial Domination, Blackmail" among other things as well as openly stating that your not going to get anything other then the above.

Hell most of us need to get married to experience this type of stuff but I guess some of the uninitiated feel the need to pay for it otherwise.

Given the open advertisment that yes you are going to get ripped off, abused and potentially blackmailed does the "rip-off" or "I should have stayed home" designation mean the poor guy actually got layed instead of beaten?

Or that he doesnt didnt believe the ad?

Just think; new horizons; more pleasures and delights of the flesh; and then, Txtoast, think of the emotional and physical rehab.

I'm sure some sympatric soul in dire financial need would be willing to lick your wounds and I’m sure you’d be willing to pay and pay and pay.

You, my friend, are turning out to be one fascinating character—often confused and full of contradictions.

The Sheika hopes all is well.

PEACE,

Sheika Fatima
[email protected]

A personal attack on a legitimate topic and question. This entire board is based on the exchange of knowledge in pursuit of what sadly is an illegal activity in the country.

Because of the legal situation any real "truth in advertising" is fundementally impossible. So we all try and read the hyrogliphics as best we can.

So we have someone advertising as an "escort" yet openly stating that they dont offer anything I'd consider remotely "qualiying" given what appears to be a total lack of reciprosity. However this person has multiple reviews here including a couple of decent ones (by score) early on followed by 4 or 5 with a performance score of 1 or 2.

So....

Is the low performace score based on a "clients" misguided expectations or a failure from the "escort" to perform the services as outlined in the ad?

Just scan thru the BBS and you'll see "411 requests" on obvious scams, look thru the reviews and you'll see items like this. Meanwhile quality gals (indie and agency) aren't getting enough play and inexperienced hobbiests are getting ripped off. The end result is a spiral of diminishing return all around.

I think that the demise of a more casual exchange of true 411 has contributed greatly to the apparent demise of the old "TOFTT" concept...since there is no longer a real sense of "community" compared to a few years ago.

That lack of community can be attibuted directly to responses like this one. I'm all for a "good rumble" when appropriate and historically I'll give my fair share (if not more) of "2x4's"...but there was no discord here or topic for "discussion".

Something like 4 or 5 people spent money here, either they didnt get properly abused or they expected something more then they actually recieved. This translates to fewer $$$ for the deserving providers (both indie and agency) and a greater likely hood of one or more "hobbiests" who are less active due to a poor outcome.

Yet the reviews were there and even linked in the ad. My message here is more to the providers then to the hobbiests. Collectively you want a strong robust group of hobbiests spending money for quality service. The stronger the core group the bigger the pool of money for you to share. All these poor reviews and BBS "requests for 411" directly translate to guys with poor experiences who often dont venture back.

Your not keeping out your competition, your damaging & diminishing your pool of prospects. A strong group of well informed hobbiests willing to share broadbased 411 about ALL the quality providers is your "best friend"...not your enemy.

and her past clients expected a more conventional experience. Hobbyists wrote their reviews based on an experience that was more like the service that is described in the ad you gave a link to.

There are also some idiots out there who may want to try someone to see if they are just joking around.

The Sheika is enthralled with your analysis of the ranking system and the way it pertains to the economics of the escort community. I am also enthralled with your presumptive advice to providers. Are you the expert? I think not.

Those who participate in this community and regularly contribute to this board have heard this all many times before...

Darling Txtoast, you have said nothing new.
If you are truly interested in what the scores mean, schedule an appointment with the lady and find out for yourself. And, sweetheart, don’t forget to pay. The information that you seek is rarely obtained without a price.

Please don’t stop posting. You are developing into a quit a character.

Truly yours,

Sheika Fatima
[email protected]
 

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-- Modified on 6/7/2008 12:51:57 AM

Financial domination, including things like blackmail, are a fetish some guys seek.

What a way for a slacker to make some loot, eh??

xoM

From my perspective, Mr. Toast made some sensible comments about the endless cycle of Circean providers luring clueless hobbyists into their lair with resulting inevitable dissatisfaction, and how these hapless encounters are bad not only for the guys but for the business of more deserving providers.

         Your response did not strike me as vintage Sheika at all. Rather than addressing the substance of his comments, you seem to have taken his post as an opportunity to jab him a little bit.

     While your darts don’t seem to be mean spirited and indeed you always coat them with honey, they seem a bit misguided, at least to one honest reader. Does Mr. Toast need to be an “expert” to offer his opinion? Are his points really so well known that he should be chastised for stating the obvious? Why do you view these innocuous comments to be the work of a “character,” and a confused and contradictory one at that? If he’s wrong, why not just tell him so rather than comment broadly on his character?

      Perhaps there is a history between the two of you that led to these un-Sheika like comments. It is none of my business anyway (which never stops me from intervening), except that I do try to read your posts and usually find them enlightening, well reasoned,  and always kind spirited. This time you lost me.

I am very sorry for the inadequacies of my last post. Sometimes it is difficult to compose a reply that does not seem to reflect a personal agenda.

The shortcomings of the TER review and grading process and its effect on providers have been rehashed many times. Most recently in the great “boardroom” debate/thread in which Txtoast was a prime contributor. For some reason, that whole thread has been deleted.

Many of us have been involve—in one form or other—in the escort trade for decades. We are well versed in the positive dynamics and charismatic personalities that help raise this industry to a higher level. Conversely, we are also well versed in the low-life, perverse individuals and their manipulative shenanigans that taint this unregulated and-for the most part-illegal industry.

The Sheika believes that Txtoast, is a relatively new comer. He is like the recent college grad who—armed with his hard won B.A. in economics or business administration--sets out to change the world. He presumes too much. He has little real world experience, but he’s choke full of big ideas.

Txtoast needs a reality check.

Txtoast needs to be watched, so we can see if he will develop into the kind of person who will benefit or community in a positive way.

If he has an appointment with the “provider” in question, many or his questions would be answered and his doubts put to rest; and, in the process, he just might learn a valuable and much needed lesson from Greek methology.

Inshallah,

Sheika Fatima
[email protected]

but actually I've had a fair number of gals aske me for business advice or even to review various business plans for them. If you disagree with my comment why dont you post a specific point of contrast instead of this insipid drivil. You posture as an "expert" but offer nothing of substance. I stated my thoughts fairly clearly and all can judge those thoughts on their merit. Why not do the same?

Since I dont have a desire to have my balls stomped on etc I see no need to partake and unlike you I do contribute reviews.

Your comment on "dont forget to pay" further shows your true agenda. You cant find a single comment or thread anywhere on me ever looking for or accepting freebies or trying to rip someone off. That is an underhanded and uncalled for attack. I've forgotten more "information" in my life then has passed thru your ears.

As a final thought I had "character" here and elsewhere before you propably got out of junior high school.

If you want to "debate" with me I'll give you all the time, attention and respect you merit based on the quality and content of your postings.

So far you get about an 8.5 for artistic merit...but your batting 0.0 for technical merit. You cant agrue if you dont pick a side and bring a fact or two.

So are the "1's & 2's" from guys who got laid by mistake? Or from guys who thought they'd get laid and got what was advertised?

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I know from personal experience that some guys don't read anything in your ad or website...just see the picture and call to try and set something up. :-/  

xoM

I've actually had two different clients who requested the 'finacial domination' , both of whom wanted me to 'blackmail' them too. One actually had a loaded gun he liked me to point at him and make him do things. Thats about when I dropped him as a client!

Us guys are so Stange.