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Don't haggle over her price.  Show up clean and smelling nice.   When she removes her clothing compliment her on her beauty.  

If those things don't work- threaten her with a bad review!    ( j/k)

Fellow TER’s, what is it that is most important in maximizing millage?  I mean getting YMMV to work in your favor…

What factors do you think play the most important role?  Is it physical attraction, age, skills, endowment, hygiene, personality, kindness, feeling safe, or perhaps its donation related?

I understand that everyone is different.  But, perhaps there are some common attributes that could be helpful.

Yes it can  buy you more time but if the date is doomed from the start  sometimes better to cut your losses and leave I have returned money  rather than try to make a square peg  fit into my round hole,,,,,there are certainly factors as a hobbiest to ensure a better date if you are use to spinners and like that do not  then choose a  more full -figured gal your not going to  be happy....strike off endowment  for us providers its not a big deal {no pun intened} hygiene should be huge on  both sides .  mad skills are a bonus  but as a provider that is not the hobbiest's job to entertain us it is the reverse......kindness  , compasssion, and providing a safe place  should be a given  on both sides. I am sure other have their own point of view and I hope you hear  from some of our wonderful hoobiest and other providers

Is to read the reviews and TER stats very carefully. As men we are visual creatures and we get easily swayed by pretty pictures. My recent YMMV post was a direct result of me not picking up on the age of the Provider but rather running headlong into a session based on pictures and reviews alone.

I have also discovered I have a "type.". I never thought I'd have a preference other than I love women. But as I look back my best experiences are with petite, demure brunette GFEs who love kissing. And although if someone loves pasta, eating it everyday can become tedious, I also realize my best bet for success is to stick to my "type" within reason.  Having said that, one of my all time ATFs was blonde. Nevertheless ...

Look at it from this perspective - providers see all different types of people, of all different ages, sizes, endowments, etc.  Hobbyists, on the other hand, tend to go for a particular type of person (personally, I only look for older women).

With that being said, I do not think that physical characteristics are really the factor, b/c with all the different types of people providers see, the chances that she'll find the right combination for her are pretty slim.

In my experience, it's really how you treat her that counts.  The ability to converse and find a connection outside of sex.  Just b/c they are providers does not mean they are a piece of meat to be used - they're human beings too (with a very difficult job I might add) - and if you treat them well outside of the bedroom, you'll find the experience a whole much better inside.

I hear some need more appts to warm up to you (though I think that's BS). Honestly I would think simple manners, personality (don't need to be Mr. Charisma just don't be a dick lol) , and good hygiene would if nothing else be the most simple ingredients for a successful date.

What does mileage mean?  Here's what you do:

* Walk in and be grateful that a woman you don't even know has agreed to be with you for X hours.
* Look at her in the wonder of what she may be all about.... wonder what you might learn from her or her from you, or what experiences you can share?
* Start to share.....

* If she doesn't care about all that... then leave.

LOL

OK

Posted By: transcend2007
Fellow TER’s, what is it that is most important in maximizing millage?  I mean getting YMMV to work in your favor…

What factors do you think play the most important role?  Is it physical attraction, age, skills, endowment, hygiene, personality, kindness, feeling safe, or perhaps its donation related?

I understand that everyone is different.  But, perhaps there are some common attributes that could be helpful.

Just like any other woman, if you make us feel good about ourselves, we will respond to it.

I always liked the guys who said they read my posts or my ads because these guys made me feel like they wanted to get to know me.  Didn't like guys that said they read my reviews because I felt these guys were only interested in what they could get from me.   (generally speaking)

HalfHour545 reads

For me, there have been a few providers over the years that I have become extremely attracted to by their posts. In fact, the more attracted I became, the more enticing their photos looked.

There certainly is a range of things that stimulate sexual desire in both men and women. Physical appearance is one of those, of course.

My most sexually fulfilling experiences in life have always had two features. ONE, I had a strong attraction to the woman's personality, intellegence, humor, spirit or similar non-physical traits, and TWO, the encounter was such that both of us were excited by how much the other person was excited and both tried to please the other.

Those experience were not with the hottest women I've ever been with (although I thought they were hot!) Not that something like that COULDN'T happen, it just hasn't.

I've drawn the conclusion that the more time a person spends looking in the mirror and admiring their own physical beauty, the more "shallow" their excitement is.

As a man who finds true beauty in women of all shapes and sizes, I alway enjoy hearing a provider say she "always finds something appealing" in her clients and focuses on that. I believe that shows a realism and maturity that leads to more satisfying encounters.

And that is all of the "writing like a woman" that I will do for today! ;)

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HalfHour

Don't haggle over her price.  Show up clean and smelling nice.   When she removes her clothing compliment her on her beauty.  

If those things don't work- threaten her with a bad review!    ( j/k)

Everything plays a part in the sparks we have together & that is why I recommend meeting at an event!

Screw that connection chemistry shit in this business it leads to nothing but heartache for someone. There's nothing more stressful than knowing a client has developed feelings for you and those feelings are not mutual, or vice versa.

This isn't the "love connection" for crying out loud it's hot sweaty orgasmic minutes.  Then again I can have chemistry with a dildo if I know I'm going to get pleasure from it......yes I'm still the color of a heathan

I want to point out that Bailey’s really, really important point doesn’t contradict what Victoria and others have been saying in the least, and I think it is critical to tie the two points together.
Bailey is 100% right that hobbyist/provider “connections” are not, and should never be “romantic connections”. If a hobbyist starts to imagine that their enjoyable experiences are because the provider has a special passion and desire for him above all others, that provider should immediately pour very cold water on those fantasies and/or run for the hills. We all know this is an occupational hazard, and unsurprisingly the best providers face it most often.
Victoria and others are 100% right that hobbyists can have a perfectly pleasant/acceptable experience as long as basic minimums (hygiene, courtesy, respect, safety) are met, but it takes more of an interpersonal “connection” to achieve the type of superior experience that will make a hobbyist anxious to become a regular. This involves higher levels of communication, sensitivity and professionalism as well as idiosyncratic factors (aspects of personality and style that mesh well in some cases but not others—the YMMV issue).
The common thread of course is that both Bailey and Victoria are strictly talking about a professional/commercial “connection” that can be hugely enjoyable for both parties if both parties have strong communications and physical skills, AND if both parties have the respect, maturity and sensitivity to enjoy the connections with the strict bounds of a professional/commercial relationship.
Just because this “connection” come in a commercial context and has important, defined limits doesn’t mean it isn’t real or honest. You can think of hundreds of non-hobby cases where buyers and sellers have to have extensive interpersonal interactions (dealing with professionals like doctors or auto mechanics, work situations dealing with vendors or subcontractors, etc). Nothing happens if the rudimentary hygiene/social skills aren’t there. As with providers, things fail regardless of any interpersonal chemistry if the doctor/mechanic/vendor can’t deliver the basic services expected. But if both parties have the sense and sensitivity (including openness and respect for people who may come from different social/cultural backgrounds), you can not only make the process much more enjoyable, but that enjoyable connection can greatly improve the quality of the basic services.
You cannot have a great hobby experience unless both hobbyist and provider completely understand and are totally cool with the essential professional/commercial nature of the interaction. A hobbyist-provider “connection” means you’ve established comfort and trust that the pleasure and respect will remain strictly within those bounds. If you can’t manage the boundary between fantasy and reality, it will fail. If the other party violates that boundary, run for the hills.

Posted By: transcend2007
Fellow TER’s, what is it that is most important in maximizing millage?  I mean getting YMMV to work in your favor…

What factors do you think play the most important role?  Is it physical attraction, age, skills, endowment, hygiene, personality, kindness, feeling safe, or perhaps its donation related?

I understand that everyone is different.  But, perhaps there are some common attributes that could be helpful.

Hugh9118 is right in that romantic connections can happen and are an occupational hazard - I certainly have found myself falling romantically for several providers only to walk around with heartache for a few months afterwards.

I think the broader issue is that the provider and hobbyist marketplace is like any other market - there are different kinds of customers and different kinds of providers.  Connection and ymmv simply is about the hobbyist finding the right provider for them.

For a few people, I think the romantic fantasy of Richard Gere / Julia Roberts of "Pretty Woman" runs both ways.

But "connection" is a broader term which just means that the hobbyist's expectations have been matched by what the provider feels best about providing, and that both parties feel good about the interaction's results.

Am I the only one who views this as........ just get naked and have fun or partly naked if you choose and still have fun, it hasn't become rocket science has it? If you want to maximize your mileage pop a cialis and wear gripper socks for more traction. lol

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