Thank you Phoenix for letting Lisa come back to Pittsburgh. Just spent a great afternoon with her. WOW, She is AWESOME!! Now is only we can get Debbie, Ashley or Sky to come for a visit. Yummy!

Last I'd heard, she'd put on quite a few pounds.

Beautiful women come in all shapes AND sizes!

Didn't your mom ever teach you "If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all"? Plus it makes you look like an a**hole. You should really think before you say something.

Just my opinion dude.

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All I ask for is HONESTY.  I call em as I see 'em.  Do you know her?  I do.  I was one of the first to see her when she got here from Pittsburgh, and she was awesome, a petite, busy 5 foot package that was one of the best in The Valley then, and I reviewed her as same here on T.E.R.  That was about 2 1/2 years ago, in November (maybe 3 1/2).
Anyway, I've got about 40 reviews posted, I'll stand on my record of honesty.  
Here's a lady who looked great, back then.  She's a lot heavier now, and 20-30 lbs. is a lot more to carry on such a petite frame.  Did she change her pics, or mention that her body-type is no longer the same?  Of course not, she still wants to charge the maximum she can--it's a biz, who can blame her.
My short comment simply  reflected the truth as it is today, and I stand behind it.
And, to the shallow person who won't indentify themselves and posted something about unhappiness, you're so far off-base that it's a joke!  Things have never been better here and my friends and I have met some fantastic, HONEST ladies in the past few months (many we've reviewed, some have requested to remain UTR).  And also, to that person, I'll continue to post under my name, NOT use an alias--that's chickensh*#.

Jeff is right,,,he may be blundt but I'll take that over false advertizing anytime.  Yes we all like different providers and some things can be overlooked for an ATF or someone you are comfortable with.  The problem is for NEW CLIENTS who are looking for honesty before spending their money...me included. I for one tried to see Lisa and on both ocassions was postoned by Lisa and given a raincheck...this was after a 4 week advance booking.  Once for a dumb reason...oh, I forgot that I was moving this week...yah right. When I tried to get my raincheck after she had her baby and I believe her rates went up by then...no reply.

It strikes me as funny why people get upset about the truth.  Hobbyist spend their money on the providers they wish to see.  They make decisions based on reviews and pics that are posted.  False reviews always get found out.  Bad pics that do not reflect the provider correctly always get told about.  To get upset with Jeffery because he tells the truth is absurd.  And yes an alias that I've never heard of only makes one wonder more about true intentions.

Yes, she has a few pounds on, but that is because she just had a baby. It is not 20-30 pounds as you stated. Don't be a fool. You can be honest, I have no problem with that. However you don't have to flame someone. Besides, she still looks FANTASTIC!! I am not a white kight, just being HONEST!

people like you who got your nose so far up the provider as*es are the one who looks like a a**hole. It's all about truth not kissing as* so your milage goes up. Keep it real.

Within this forum I've never known JEFFERY to unfairly criticize ANY HONEST PROVIDER, no matter what shape or size.

For those of you coming back at JEFFERY, lets don't get the honest providers mixed up with the deceitful ones.

Any provider that is involved in fraudulent advertising in order to lure in unsuspecting clients, should be open to blundt criticism.  

We should all be disgusted with this type of business practice.



Eggman

I have to agree, because I am no where near "tight" (except in one place) and I get along with Jeffery pretty well.

...and I thank those who have backed-up my comments on the board.
I really didn't expect this great response to my little post, particularly from people I don't even know.  Thanks again, and let's keep it honest!

The original poster didn't ask for advice about Lisa's looks or service---he simply made a comment that he had a great time with her in her new city.

So why did Jeffrey immediately jump up and say Lisa had put on weight? That had NOTHING to do with the comment--it was a way to get a little jab in at Lisa.

From what Debbie has posted (on the other board) and told me in person, there is some bad blood between Lisa and Jeffrey--and it looks like he is taking the opportunity to take pot shots at Lisa whenever possible. That is a mean-spirited post (and not his first.)

Jeffrey does say nice things about some of the the girls he sees, like Mya....but then he goes and blows his "gentleman" image by taking cheap shots at ladies he doesn't like. No one else does that.

Speaking on behalf of myself and other ladies (we do have communications about this subject), we want to see clients who are gentlemen ALL the time--this includes the way they post on these public boards.

Vamptat is right on target. He's a gentleman in my book, by posting pleasant comments about the ladies, not denigrating them.

I'm very sorry to hear that some of you other men think it is "kissing a**" to do as Vamp does--speaking politely of the women on this board, or otherwise hold your tongue (unless there is a good reason otherwise).

Now, that's mean-spirited.
And, I apologize, in advance, Chrissy, sorry.
What I said before, though, was NOT mean-spirited, merely an honest opinion.
But, I do apologize for the wisecrack about age.  You look fabulous!

Chrissy, I've known Jeffrey a long time and like providers hobbyist share info. Pics can be very deceiving.  You know and I know many providers try to hide their looks, weight and whatever else they think my deter a hobbyist from calling them.  I've met tiffany and many other BBW providers and they are all very nice ladies and create a honest approach to the business.  Jeffrey has no ax to grind just giving hobbyist information to make good business decisions on.  Last I looked we are the ones spending the money....

Honesty is good. I would not want to be in your shoes and not get what I was expecting. I didn't think you were overly cruel or anything. Sometimes people can be downright mean and that can be hurtful. I do not think that was you intention at all.

I had a great time with Lisa. I knew that she had just had a baby and that reviews said that she was quoted as saying that she is not in the best shape. I was not mislead by any means, she was honest and up front and the reviews were accurate. There is no need to bash her, Jeffery or anyone else who is completely honest. This board is for factual information, not rumors. With that said, this make me uncomfortable to post anything else on the Phoenix board. Wow, you guys really made me feel welcomed.

The Phoenix board is usually pretty tame compared to some of the others I have seen. I make no judgement here about the motivations or intentions of Jeffery in his initial post. I do not know the gentleman personally and therefore have nothing to base an opinion on. His post can be read either way IMHO.

When Lisa was in town, I did have some brief correspondance with her and although her pics and site were older, she was straight up with me indicating that she just had a baby and she had yet to return to her former self.

Don't blow off the Phoenix board so quickly. There are lots and lots of great folks here.

Peter Parker, What is the best way to get back in touch with Lisa now that she is back in Pittsburgh?